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Post by alster on Feb 1, 2018 8:34:05 GMT
The Bauer booking was the one that got me😡 The replay showed the ref got it right. Bauer tackled from the side and took out the man. Never touch the ball. Sorry, clear foul. How the fuck did the ball go out of play at the pace and angle that it did if Bauer never touched it?
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Post by alster on Feb 1, 2018 8:36:20 GMT
One minute injury time first half and only 4 in the second ? Fuck off moss Only thing I'm not complaining about, surely 5 additional minutes of that crap was punishment enough for our sins whatever they may be. Not sure we'd have seen a goal if he added an hour tbh.
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Post by mattador78 on Feb 1, 2018 8:44:04 GMT
he was a awful and never seemed to have control of the game how did doucoure I think it was only get a yellow for lashing out at crouch right in front of him yet Diouf got a yellow for something neither him, the linesman or the 4th official saw. Diouf's yellow protects him from any subsequent punishment by video. Possibly a blessing in disguise? BM Saw it replayed last night on the tv camera next to me in the ground Diouf did nothing other than push the Watford player away if anything he needs fucking for diving and being a twat
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Feb 1, 2018 8:46:35 GMT
Set the tone from the off when he allowed their huddle to continue for the best part of two minutes. Bought every single dive, feign of injury. Allowed their players, particularly Deeney to have his ear for the full 90. Booked Bauer for a superb tackle where he won the ball cleanly. Gave Diouf a yellow when, if there even was an incident, it had to be red. Booked their man for kicking out at Crouch when again it should be red if anything. Constantly not up with play. And in the interests of balance, gave us a host of free kicks for pretty much nothing. Beyond wank. I've never understood why having a huddle beyond the scheduled kick off time, or failing to come out of the tunnel within, say, 30 seconds of the officials, doesn't result in a yellow card for every player. That would soon put a stop to this sort of tatty gamesmanship. I didn't think Moss had a clue as to how to referee the game properly. For example the incident leading to the Diouf booking, as mentioned above, was either a card for Diouf or a card for the player who went down but, as neither the ref nor his assistant appear to have seen it, he should have kept his cards in his pocket. You can't punish an incident you did not see. As it is, he MAY have done Diouf a favour as the yellow means that a panel will not review the incident so, whatever Diouf did or didn't do, he can't face further punishment. As regards time wasting neither Moss nor the 4th official appear to have a clue that time wasting is supposed to be dealt with by yellow cards and added time. Until refs are interviewed after games we'll never see an improvement in one of the frustrating aspects of modern football. We've been guilty of time wasting in the past but I've never criticised refs if they prroduce a yellow for persistent offenders.
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Post by werrington on Feb 1, 2018 8:58:53 GMT
Set the tone from the off when he allowed their huddle to continue for the best part of two minutes. Bought every single dive, feign of injury. Allowed their players, particularly Deeney to have his ear for the full 90. Booked Bauer for a superb tackle where he won the ball cleanly. Gave Diouf a yellow when, if there even was an incident, it had to be red. Booked their man for kicking out at Crouch when again it should be red if anything. Constantly not up with play. And in the interests of balance, gave us a host of free kicks for pretty much nothing. Beyond wank. I've never understood why having a huddle beyond the scheduled kick off time, or failing to come out of the tunnel within, say, 30 seconds of the officials, doesn't result in a yellow card for every player. That would soon put a stop to this sort of tatty gamesmanship. I didn't think Moss had a clue as to how to referee the game properly. For example the incident leading to the Diouf booking, as mentioned above, was either a card for Diouf or a card for the player who went down but, as neither the ref nor his assistant appear to have seen it, he should have kept his cards in his pocket. You can't punish an incident you did not see. As it is, he MAY have done Diouf a favour as the yellow means that a panel will not review the incident so, whatever Diouf did or didn't do, he can't face further punishment. As regards time wasting neither Moss nor the 4th official appear to have a clue that time wasting is supposed to be dealt with by yellow cards and added time. Until refs are interviewed after games we'll never see an improvement in one of the frustrating aspects of modern football. We've been guilty of time wasting in the past but I've never criticised refs if they prroduce a yellow for persistent offenders. From our view mate we could see the Watford players stood in the tunnel for a good 2 mins and another 30 seconds AFTER the officials came out
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Post by OldStokie on Feb 1, 2018 11:25:57 GMT
Being in The Boothen and at a perfect angle to see the 'Bauer foul', I can say 100% that it was a perfect tackle. Bauer came in from the side and not the back, and he most definitely DID get the ball before the player tumbled over his leg. It was a shocking decision. Also, by the laws of the game, Diouf should have walked. There were handbags going on between the two players and then Diouf pushed the Watford player full in the chest and sent him tumbling. Yes, their player made a massive meal of it, but that doesn't lessen the effect of the foul on him according to the rules. It was a red all day long. Didn't see the foul on Crouch so won't comment.
Moss looked as unfit as Charlie. He needs demoting or putting out to grass.
OS.
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Post by bossthemidfield on Feb 1, 2018 11:32:57 GMT
In general the whole affair was dismal and disappointing, the only silver lining was that we did not lose or concede. Watford set up for a draw, time wasted from the start, trying to break down all momentum, hoping to steal the points. The play acting was continental to the point of parody and so was entirely obvious to all bar one Dire evening THIS.
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Post by greyman on Feb 1, 2018 11:33:18 GMT
Set the tone from the off when he allowed their huddle to continue for the best part of two minutes. Bought every single dive, feign of injury. Allowed their players, particularly Deeney to have his ear for the full 90. Booked Bauer for a superb tackle where he won the ball cleanly. Gave Diouf a yellow when, if there even was an incident, it had to be red. Booked their man for kicking out at Crouch when again it should be red if anything. Constantly not up with play. And in the interests of balance, gave us a host of free kicks for pretty much nothing. Beyond wank. I've never understood why having a huddle beyond the scheduled kick off time, or failing to come out of the tunnel within, say, 30 seconds of the officials, doesn't result in a yellow card for every player. That would soon put a stop to this sort of tatty gamesmanship. I didn't think Moss had a clue as to how to referee the game properly. For example the incident leading to the Diouf booking, as mentioned above, was either a card for Diouf or a card for the player who went down but, as neither the ref nor his assistant appear to have seen it, he should have kept his cards in his pocket. You can't punish an incident you did not see. As it is, he MAY have done Diouf a favour as the yellow means that a panel will not review the incident so, whatever Diouf did or didn't do, he can't face further punishment. As regards time wasting neither Moss nor the 4th official appear to have a clue that time wasting is supposed to be dealt with by yellow cards and added time. Until refs are interviewed after games we'll never see an improvement in one of the frustrating aspects of modern football. We've been guilty of time wasting in the past but I've never criticised refs if they prroduce a yellow for persistent offenders. I was watching it the whole time as it happened in front of me. Usual pushing and barging at a free kick, when the Watford player suddenly throws himself to the ground holding his face. Linesman was right there and should have been watching because it had been going on for a few seconds before the incident. It was either a red for Diouf which would have been an incorrect decision or a yellow for the Watford player and a possible ban for simulation. Ref got it completely wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2018 11:38:01 GMT
Jon Moss sucks donkey ass.....
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 1, 2018 12:51:59 GMT
Being in The Boothen and at a perfect angle to see the 'Bauer foul', I can say 100% that it was a perfect tackle. Bauer came in from the side and not the back, and he most definitely DID get the ball before the player tumbled over his leg. It was a shocking decision. Also, by the laws of the game, Diouf should have walked. There were handbags going on between the two players and then Diouf pushed the Watford player full in the chest and sent him tumbling. Yes, their player made a massive meal of it, but that doesn't lessen the effect of the foul on him according to the rules. It was a red all day long. Didn't see the foul on Crouch so won't comment. Moss looked as unfit as Charlie. He needs demoting or putting out to grass. OS. Bauer genuinely looked amazed at that booking,whether he was playing the part I don't know and haven't seen the replay but the ball went out for a throw and if he didn't get the ball then not sure why it went where ut did.
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Post by Vermelho20312505 on Feb 1, 2018 12:58:00 GMT
He was shit but my biggest issue was the time. He showed the crowd him "stopping his watch" when Cleverly forgot how to stand up and as usual it is nothing but bullshit. There were loads of stoppages included the Diouf incident. And subs and he had to make the difficult decision in every game whether to add 4 or 5 minutes. Refs have no regard whatsoever to actual stoppages. All a lie.
And yes never once warned Watford for ridiculous amounts of time to take any set piece. A joke.
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Feb 1, 2018 13:02:52 GMT
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Post by beerspiller on Feb 1, 2018 13:02:52 GMT
From a mate who was watching Sky, they passed comment live in the studio at the appalling conduct of Watford especially the Diouf booking saying something like I hope he can live with himself for faking! And I believe regarding another matter. I believe they also included how bad Moss was regarding his refereeing. If anyone saw this is it true? As I was ‘advising’ that twat Moss at the match at the time!! 😖
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Post by hinckpotter on Feb 1, 2018 13:02:59 GMT
We've got blinkers on if we think bauer got the ball, replays clearly showed he didn't. Whether it warrented a yellow is another story.
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Post by robwahlmann on Feb 1, 2018 13:11:22 GMT
To be honest I don't think Moss did too badly yesterday! Diouf's yellow was OK, but the Watford player who started it should also have been yellow carded. Also Bauer's card was correct, I must admit after seeing the replay, as he hit the player before he touched the ball. What is often very difficult to deal with is cheating and time wasting because you can't watch it all from different angels all the time. Watford were even worse than Bournemouth at this so it wasn't that easy. I really hope a couple of Watford players are given some kind of punishment retrospectively as some of their cheating were pathetic!
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Post by lordb on Feb 1, 2018 13:12:16 GMT
The Bauer booking was the one that got me😡 The replay showed the ref got it right. Bauer tackled from the side and took out the man. Never touch the ball. Sorry, clear foul. foul,yes never a booking first foul too same with Pieters booking
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Post by burystokie on Feb 1, 2018 13:19:52 GMT
We've got blinkers on if we think bauer got the ball, replays clearly showed he didn't. Whether it warrented a yellow is another story. I haven't seen a replay of it - once watching that game was once too much! - and the way the game is played now, I can sort of accept Bauer getting booked for that challenge. It's ridiculous, it's unjust, but it's also the way the game is refereed now and it's not going to change. However, if he didn't win the ball, how on earth did it get to where it did?? I'm fairly certain the Watford player didn't kick it there, and I'm also fairly certain that our Jack (sorry, I can't think of him as anything other than Jack Bauer) doesn't have magical powers...?
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Post by nott1 on Feb 1, 2018 14:15:50 GMT
1 minute injury time in the first half. The trainer came on 3 times and we also had Butland huffing and puffing for 2 minutes. And then there was their time wasting from the first minute. Isn't that up to the 4th official?
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Post by sportsman on Feb 1, 2018 14:28:43 GMT
How did he not book Deulofeu for that dive? Wait until it happens in our box and they get a penalty, you'll be calling for VAR
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Post by Veritas on Feb 1, 2018 15:31:52 GMT
We've got blinkers on if we think bauer got the ball, replays clearly showed he didn't. Whether it warrented a yellow is another story. I haven't seen a replay of it - once watching that game was once too much! - and the way the game is played now, I can sort of accept Bauer getting booked for that challenge. It's ridiculous, it's unjust, but it's also the way the game is refereed now and it's not going to change. However, if he didn't win the ball, how on earth did it get to where it did?? I'm fairly certain the Watford player didn't kick it there, and I'm also fairly certain that our Jack (sorry, I can't think of him as anything other than Jack Bauer) doesn't have magical powers...? I think the point is he did get the ball but in a dangerous manner, Moss clearly indicated a scissor motion when giving the free kick and I feel that was one of the few calls he got right. Has anyone got footage of the incident which saw Diouf booked, I have no idea what happened. I did see their player swing a hay maker at Crouch and how on earth that only got a yellow is beyond me.
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Post by colinroberts1 on Feb 1, 2018 16:00:17 GMT
I haven't seen a replay of it - once watching that game was once too much! - and the way the game is played now, I can sort of accept Bauer getting booked for that challenge. It's ridiculous, it's unjust, but it's also the way the game is refereed now and it's not going to change. However, if he didn't win the ball, how on earth did it get to where it did?? I'm fairly certain the Watford player didn't kick it there, and I'm also fairly certain that our Jack (sorry, I can't think of him as anything other than Jack Bauer) doesn't have magical powers...? I think the point is he did get the ball but in a dangerous manner, Moss clearly indicated a scissor motion when giving the free kick and I feel that was one of the few calls he got right. Has anyone got footage of the incident which saw Diouf booked, I have no idea what happened. I did see their player kipswing a hay maker at Crouch and how on earth that only got a yellow is beyond me. If he saw it, which he must of done to card docoure or whatever his name is, it should be red, he tried to punch crouch for barging into him.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 1, 2018 16:09:06 GMT
How did he not book Deulofeu for that dive? Booked Diouf when a Red was the only option (if there was any incident at all, that is) Only a yellow card for their lad attempting a haymaker on Crouch. The Bauer one was farcical. Pathetic decision. Not sure what happened with the Diouf incident??? But if he did raise his hand or whatever, Moss actually has done us a favour in only showing Diouf the yellow card, now no further action can be taken!!! That's "IF" Diouf did actually do anything???
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Post by burystokie on Feb 1, 2018 16:15:32 GMT
I haven't seen a replay of it - once watching that game was once too much! - and the way the game is played now, I can sort of accept Bauer getting booked for that challenge. It's ridiculous, it's unjust, but it's also the way the game is refereed now and it's not going to change. However, if he didn't win the ball, how on earth did it get to where it did?? I'm fairly certain the Watford player didn't kick it there, and I'm also fairly certain that our Jack (sorry, I can't think of him as anything other than Jack Bauer) doesn't have magical powers...? I think the point is he did get the ball but in a dangerous manner, Moss clearly indicated a scissor motion when giving the free kick and I feel that was one of the few calls he got right. Has anyone got footage of the incident which saw Diouf booked, I have no idea what happened. I did see their player swing a hay maker at Crouch and how on earth that only got a yellow is beyond me. I don't disagree with you about the Bauer yellow card. Well I do slightly because unless it was a lot worse than it looked, I don't agree that it was dangerous, but I did say that I understood how it ended up as a yellow card in the modern game. I was more responding to hinckpotter and one or two others stating that he didn't even win the ball, which doesn't seem to make any sense at all given where it went afterwards?
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Post by chayzenbacon on Feb 1, 2018 16:41:34 GMT
1 minute injury time in the first half. The trainer came on 3 times and we also had Butland huffing and puffing for 2 minutes. And then there was their time wasting from the first minute. Isn't that up to the 4th official? No, the referee tells the 4th official what to put on the board.
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Post by jaybee on Feb 1, 2018 18:05:28 GMT
Time wasting? Surely not! But, it did break the record for the shortest time in play at 42 minutes - yes, that's 43% of the time ... or 57% of the time that the ball was out of play! Sentinel website warning ......
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Post by Theninjabadger on Feb 1, 2018 18:24:24 GMT
Time wasting? Surely not! But, it did break the record for the shortest time in play at 42 minutes - yes, that's 43% of the time ... or 57% of the time that the ball was out of play! Sentinel website warning ......Imagine if they did change rules a while back when they were going to stop the clock when the ball wasn’t in play. We’d still be playing now
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Post by Kewstokie on Feb 1, 2018 18:52:08 GMT
Moss was equally inept when he took over from Bobby Madeley earlier in the season (against Bournemouth?), just full of how own import and no idea how to keep a game flowing.
It beggars belief he is on the PL list, what beggars belief even more is that he was given an FA Cup final over Clattenburg.
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Post by leicspotter on Feb 1, 2018 19:48:45 GMT
Being in The Boothen and at a perfect angle to see the 'Bauer foul', I can say 100% that it was a perfect tackle. Bauer came in from the side and not the back, and he most definitely DID get the ball before the player tumbled over his leg. It was a shocking decision. Also, by the laws of the game, Diouf should have walked. There were handbags going on between the two players and then Diouf pushed the Watford player full in the chest and sent him tumbling. Yes, their player made a massive meal of it, but that doesn't lessen the effect of the foul on him according to the rules. It was a red all day long. Didn't see the foul on Crouch so won't comment. Moss looked as unfit as Charlie. He needs demoting or putting out to grass. OS. Bauer genuinely looked amazed at that booking,whether he was playing the part I don't know and haven't seen the replay but the ball went out for a throw and if he didn't get the ball then not sure why it went where ut did. I thought it WAS a foul but that the yellow was for dissent...same as v Huddersfield...about the only thing Moss got right all night tbh
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