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Post by RAF on Jan 19, 2018 13:27:38 GMT
Well you must give a little bit or you wouldn't have commented. H Well no, not really Raf, its a message board made to comment on things, i know that might be hard to believe So just to clarify.You post on subjects that you don't give a fuck about because it's a messageboard to comment on things? H
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Jan 19, 2018 13:55:10 GMT
I do not see Hughes managing in the premier league again his CV does not look to good now. You could argue that he started the rot at QPR even though he was not wholly responsible & he his 100% to blame for our current position which could see us relegated. How can you say he was wholly responsible for our current position but not wholly responsible for the position QPR were in when he was sacked? Simple i think QPR had only played around 12 games when he was fired & player recruitment was down to there crackpot owner. With us if you believe what coates has said no players were bought in without Hughes sanctioning them & we are well past the half way point in the season so i would say he is pretty responsible for our present position.
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Post by elystokie on Jan 19, 2018 14:11:54 GMT
Well no, not really Raf, its a message board made to comment on things, i know that might be hard to believe So just to clarify.You post on subjects that you don't give a fuck about because it's a messageboard to comment on things? H The fact that he opened a thread titled 'Mark Hughes to Newcastle' surely illustrates how little of a fuck he gives...
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 19, 2018 14:33:47 GMT
How can you say he was wholly responsible for our current position but not wholly responsible for the position QPR were in when he was sacked? Simple i think QPR had only played around 12 games when he was fired & player recruitment was down to there crackpot owner. With us if you believe what coates has said no players were bought in without Hughes sanctioning them & we are well past the half way point in the season so i would say he is pretty responsible for our present position. Relegation will be his legacy to our club along with the shit unfit bone idle squad and three expensive albatross's dragging us down.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 14:40:25 GMT
Simple i think QPR had only played around 12 games when he was fired & player recruitment was down to there crackpot owner. With us if you believe what coates has said no players were bought in without Hughes sanctioning them & we are well past the half way point in the season so i would say he is pretty responsible for our present position. Relegation will be his legacy to our club along with the shit unfit bone idle squad and three expensive albatross's dragging us down. I'm really hoping we can add "if he stayed" to your statement. Early days. Tomorrow is a taste of things to come. Going it's Uber positive! 👍😬
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Post by shangamuzo on Jan 19, 2018 15:23:40 GMT
I'm sure it won't be long before Sparky is back in the Prem, he just needs the right vacancy to come up. We haven't seen the last of the silver haired Welshman. Anybody who takes Hughes as manager first choice in the Prem will have to be more desperate than Stoke were. He boasted he "doesn't do relegation" but I believe that only held because QPR sacked him before it could happen,as did Stoke. At the time they gave him the boot,Rangers had scored 4 miserable points from the first 12 games that season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 15:37:39 GMT
Seeing a relegation rival destabilised would be morale boosting 😂
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 19, 2018 15:41:16 GMT
Rafa has to walk first.
Something is keeping him there.
£6m + / pa maybe ?
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Post by boweryboy on Jan 19, 2018 15:50:58 GMT
Don't think there's a chance in hell of him getting another Premier League Job, can't have gone unnoticed what a pigs ear he has made of our last eighteen months or more,and obviously lost the plot on all fronts...
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Post by kustokie on Jan 19, 2018 16:02:49 GMT
I think he'd do a good job for them. He'll be top of the list for anyone who sacks their manager from now on in the prem. His work with us has completely dispelled the QPR saga. That said, not sure whether he's right for a team that's struggling at the bottom. I would tend to take a different view. He obviously learned a lot from his QPR experience, and for a couple of seasons he turned Stoke from a defensively minded, very direct team to a team that played very attractive football. However, he couldn’t keep it going: he got us into an real mess and in serious danger of relegation by neglecting the basics, especially fitness and the defensive side of things to the extent that we went from the best defensive team in the league to the worst.
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Post by deliasmith on Jan 19, 2018 16:17:37 GMT
This is part fantasy and part wishful thinking.
Rangers have, literally, no money. None. Not a single penny for transfer fees, or to compensate Aberdeen for the loss of their manager. Accrington Stanley - yes, that Accrington Stanley, have complained about Rangers' attempt to con them and their player to go for a free transfer. Celtic have a vert]y good manager on £3 million a year plus bonuses, who will be there next season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 16:32:51 GMT
I think he'd do a good job for them. He'll be top of the list for anyone who sacks their manager from now on in the prem. His work with us has completely dispelled the QPR saga. That said, not sure whether he's right for a team that's struggling at the bottom. I would tend to take a different view. He obviously learned a lot from his QPR experience, and for a couple of seasons he turned Stoke from a defensively minded, very direct team to a team that played very attractive football. However, he couldn’t keep it going: he got us into an real mess and in serious danger of relegation by neglecting the basics, especially fitness and the defensive side of things to the extent that we went from the best defensive team in the league to the worst. That's the only worry. He tends to shit himself after a few bad results and try to play defensive football. And he's not very good at it.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jan 19, 2018 16:43:35 GMT
How can you say he was wholly responsible for our current position but not wholly responsible for the position QPR were in when he was sacked? Simple i think QPR had only played around 12 games when he was fired & player recruitment was down to there crackpot owner. With us if you believe what coates has said no players were bought in without Hughes sanctioning them & we are well past the half way point in the season so i would say he is pretty responsible for our present position. I'm not saying he isn't partly responsible for our predicament but the points I was making were that you a) can't possibly know the transfer arrangements at QPR so can't excuse him for his role in their downfall and b) can't know that here he wasn't presented with players as a fait accompli, a take Wimmer or no-one type of situation, despite what Coates said. So what I'm saying it's highly unlikely he is 100% responsible for the shit we're in but can't be absolved entirely of any responsibility for QPR. It will be interesting one day to hear Hughes' version of events.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Jan 19, 2018 17:26:08 GMT
I think he'd do a good job for them. He'll be top of the list for anyone who sacks their manager from now on in the prem. His work with us has completely dispelled the QPR saga. That said, not sure whether he's right for a team that's struggling at the bottom. I think that's probably a more realistic assessment than some of the others. Three 9ths and a 13th with Stoke City will certainly not be seen as failure by many owners, and we have seen this season how experienced PL managers tend to get the nod over up and coming managers. If not the PL I would certainly expect him to pitch up at a good sized Championship club before too long.
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Post by Gods on Jan 19, 2018 20:01:32 GMT
I think he'd do a good job for them. He'll be top of the list for anyone who sacks their manager from now on in the prem. His work with us has completely dispelled the QPR saga. That said, not sure whether he's right for a team that's struggling at the bottom. I think that's probably a more realistic assessment than some of the others. Three 9ths and a 13th with Stoke City will certainly not be seen as failure by many owners, and we have seen this season how experienced PL managers tend to get the nod over up and coming managers. If not the PL I would certainly expect him to pitch up at a good sized Championship club before too long. Malcolm, I think Hughes can easily brush up his CV so it looks something like this. "3 top half finishes with Stoke City and only missed out on a 4th one by 2 points. Sure the current season was coming up short of expectations but even then Stoke were still only 2 wins from top half" He won't mention anything about our cup record but if he does get asked he will conveniently not mention Coventry City rather go back to the League Cup semi-final where only the width of a post and then a penalty competition prevented Stoke from beating Liverpool and taking on Man City at Wembley. If he wants another Prem job I have no doubt one will come up. We haven't seen the back of him, I'm certain of it.
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Post by loosestools on Jan 19, 2018 20:26:12 GMT
I think that's probably a more realistic assessment than some of the others. Three 9ths and a 13th with Stoke City will certainly not be seen as failure by many owners, and we have seen this season how experienced PL managers tend to get the nod over up and coming managers. If not the PL I would certainly expect him to pitch up at a good sized Championship club before too long. Malcolm, I think Hughes can easily brush up his CV so it looks something like this. "3 top half finishes with Stoke City and only missed out on a 4th one by 2 points. Sure the current season was coming up short of expectations but even then Stoke were still only 2 wins from top half" He won't mention anything about our cup record but if he does get asked he will conveniently not mention Coventry City rather go back to the League Cup semi-final where only the width of a post and then a penalty competition prevented Stoke from beating Liverpool and taking on Man City at Wembley. If he wants another Prem job I have no doubt one will come up. We haven't seen the back of him, I'm certain of it. He is a busted flush, he relied on his Spanish links, temporarily they were fantastic, but - not good enough and costing the club an absolute fortune for no end product. Where would he search next?
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Post by senojbor on Jan 19, 2018 20:39:17 GMT
I could never take to him. He never seemed to speak with sincerity and he never came across that his pride was hurt even after numerous heavy defeats and decline. No real affinity to the club, it just seemed another job to him. No passion, no pride, no fight.
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Post by Gods on Jan 19, 2018 22:09:47 GMT
Malcolm, I think Hughes can easily brush up his CV so it looks something like this. "3 top half finishes with Stoke City and only missed out on a 4th one by 2 points. Sure the current season was coming up short of expectations but even then Stoke were still only 2 wins from top half" He won't mention anything about our cup record but if he does get asked he will conveniently not mention Coventry City rather go back to the League Cup semi-final where only the width of a post and then a penalty competition prevented Stoke from beating Liverpool and taking on Man City at Wembley. If he wants another Prem job I have no doubt one will come up. We haven't seen the back of him, I'm certain of it. He is a busted flush, he relied on his Spanish links, temporarily they were fantastic, but - not good enough and costing the club an absolute fortune for no end product. Where would he search next? I'm not disputing any of that, only that he won't be seen as a busted flush, and he will get another Prem job if he wants one.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2018 22:22:10 GMT
I could never take to him. He never seemed to speak with sincerity and he never came across that his pride was hurt even after numerous heavy defeats and decline. No real affinity to the club, it just seemed another job to him. No passion, no pride, no fight. I also never got the feeling he really gave a shit, especially this season. It was like a 9-5, go home and forget all about it until it’s that time of the week again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 10:24:36 GMT
Saw this today on Daily Mail :
NOT
MARK HUGHES
It’s hard to escape the feeling that Hughes stayed a little too long at Stoke City and he now has cause to wish he had taken the Crystal Palace job when it was offered to him last summer.
One of the interesting aspects of life at Stoke is how the club identifies its new players.
New manager Paul Lambert will hope for an upgrade on the likes of Kevin Wimmer, Giannelli Imbula and Saido Berahino between now and the end of the transfer window.
I didn't hear anything about Hughes to Palace in the summer, wish he'd have taken it!!
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Jan 20, 2018 10:54:44 GMT
Don't think there's a chance in hell of him getting another Premier League Job, can't have gone unnoticed what a pigs ear he has made of our last eighteen months or more,and obviously lost the plot on all fronts... Its not 18mths within the media, its only the last couple of months if you believe most media types!!! Even Lord Peter only thought there was an issue after rhe fookin Castle game. The merry-go-round of Premiership jobs for the boys will continue at pace.....
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 20, 2018 10:59:41 GMT
If I was MH I would not consider the Newcastle job.
In the North East Raffa walks on water. Who is going to follow that?
A little like Moyes following Ferguson.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 20, 2018 11:20:12 GMT
Saw this today on Daily Mail : NOT
MARK HUGHES
It’s hard to escape the feeling that Hughes stayed a little too long at Stoke City and he now has cause to wish he had taken the Crystal Palace job when it was offered to him last summer.
One of the interesting aspects of life at Stoke is how the club identifies its new players.
New manager Paul Lambert will hope for an upgrade on the likes of Kevin Wimmer, Giannelli Imbula and Saido Berahino between now and the end of the transfer window. I didn't hear anything about Hughes to Palace in the summer, wish he'd have taken it!! It’s exactkg why things won’t change , we’ve given a patient with a terminal disease a Lambert paracetamol at best 90 minutes relief but the disease is alive and well , untreated and killing us .when the surgeon Sánchez suggsted surgery we legged it quicker than a sun journalist to the printers .
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Post by harryburrows on Jan 20, 2018 11:25:57 GMT
If I was MH I would not consider the Newcastle job. In the North East Raffa walks on water. Who is going to follow that? A little like Moyes following Ferguson. Manager hot seat if ever there was one , even relatively successful ones get like bobby robson are given a rough ride
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Post by stokiedan17 on Jan 20, 2018 13:33:31 GMT
Saw this today on Daily Mail : NOT
MARK HUGHES
It’s hard to escape the feeling that Hughes stayed a little too long at Stoke City and he now has cause to wish he had taken the Crystal Palace job when it was offered to him last summer.
One of the interesting aspects of life at Stoke is how the club identifies its new players.
New manager Paul Lambert will hope for an upgrade on the likes of Kevin Wimmer, Giannelli Imbula and Saido Berahino between now and the end of the transfer window. I didn't hear anything about Hughes to Palace in the summer, wish he'd have taken it!! It’s exactkg why things won’t change , we’ve given a patient with a terminal disease a Lambert paracetamol at best 90 minutes relief but the disease is alive and well , untreated and killing us .when the surgeon Sánchez suggsted surgery we legged it quicker than a sun journalist to the printers . Theres that positive attitude and togetherness we were looking for benji!
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