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Berahino
Apr 20, 2018 10:45:58 GMT
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Post by lordb on Apr 20, 2018 10:45:58 GMT
This lad has no future here- we simply have to get him gone somehow. If only Barry Fry was still in management.
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Berahino
Apr 20, 2018 10:46:35 GMT
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Post by hanibal7 on Apr 20, 2018 10:46:35 GMT
What the bloody hell as the lad done now Not even on the bench He was fit yesterday so he’s not injured Don’t suppose our Nige asked the question Talk about coming back and biting u in the arse lol
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 20, 2018 10:48:39 GMT
Bringing the Employer into Disrepute Employees can at times be charged with being a representative of their employer even when they are not at work. Employers are mostly concerned with what their employees do while they are at work but occasionally the employee’s behaviour on their own time can have a detrimental effect on the employer. It’s important for employers to take action in this situation – as ex England Manager, Sam Allardyce, discovered in 2016. Bringing the employer into disrepute When employees behave in a particular way in their private lives, those activities may be considered inappropriate because of the nature of their employment. It may be the case that the actions could become associated with the employer and have a negative impact on the business; undermine the public values of the employer or cause embarrassment to the employer: in other words, bring the employer into disrepute. www.hr-24.co.uk/articles/bringing-the-employer-into-disrepute/Don't footballers have this in their contracts?
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 20, 2018 10:51:45 GMT
Bringing the Employer into Disrepute Employees can at times be charged with being a representative of their employer even when they are not at work. Employers are mostly concerned with what their employees do while they are at work but occasionally the employee’s behaviour on their own time can have a detrimental effect on the employer. It’s important for employers to take action in this situation – as ex England Manager, Sam Allardyce, discovered in 2016. Bringing the employer into disrepute When employees behave in a particular way in their private lives, those activities may be considered inappropriate because of the nature of their employment. It may be the case that the actions could become associated with the employer and have a negative impact on the business; undermine the public values of the employer or cause embarrassment to the employer: in other words, bring the employer into disrepute. www.hr-24.co.uk/articles/bringing-the-employer-into-disrepute/Don't footballers have this in their contracts? Footballers are not employees, they are contractors.
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 20, 2018 10:55:38 GMT
Bringing the Employer into Disrepute Employees can at times be charged with being a representative of their employer even when they are not at work. Employers are mostly concerned with what their employees do while they are at work but occasionally the employee’s behaviour on their own time can have a detrimental effect on the employer. It’s important for employers to take action in this situation – as ex England Manager, Sam Allardyce, discovered in 2016. Bringing the employer into disrepute When employees behave in a particular way in their private lives, those activities may be considered inappropriate because of the nature of their employment. It may be the case that the actions could become associated with the employer and have a negative impact on the business; undermine the public values of the employer or cause embarrassment to the employer: in other words, bring the employer into disrepute. www.hr-24.co.uk/articles/bringing-the-employer-into-disrepute/Don't footballers have this in their contracts? Footballers are not employees, they are contractors.
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Post by iglugluk on Apr 20, 2018 11:20:50 GMT
Eh? He wasn’t literally on his tail like Wile E Coyote. He identified him as the man he wanted and worked with the transfer team to bring him in? Pulis did that sort of thing, Hughes not. When Hughes left his office and drove home, he didn't spend one second thinking about SCFC much less about Berahino, until he reopened his door next day. Chasing was done by scouting and transfer teams. Pontias Pilate comes to mind
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2018 11:31:28 GMT
Pulis did that sort of thing, Hughes not. When Hughes left his office and drove home, he didn't spend one second thinking about SCFC much less about Berahino, until he reopened his door next day. Chasing was done by scouting and transfer teams. Pontias Pilate comes to mind Incompetent arrogant twat comes to my mind.
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Post by iglugluk on Apr 20, 2018 11:33:12 GMT
Pontias Pilate comes to mind Incompetent arrogant twat comes to my mind. ....... that's a more direct appraisal
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 20, 2018 11:33:26 GMT
Footballers are not employees, they are contractors. You would have thought that individual player contracts all have a clause regarding expected standards of behavior though. With the question of fitness, I wonder if SCFC have to exhaust all ideas and support of the player before they can take any action?
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Post by nott1 on Apr 20, 2018 11:38:33 GMT
Sack the useless arsole now I say!
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 20, 2018 11:41:57 GMT
Lillfraise is strangely quite on this, he is normally champing at the bit to protect the poor little lamb
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Post by Rick Grimes on Apr 20, 2018 11:46:41 GMT
If he wasn't on such astronomical wages for someone of his ability he'd have probably been able to find another club in the lower leagues and leave by mutual consent. Unfortunately for us there's no chance of that happening and we'll be stuck with Saido rotting in the reserves or youth team until his contract expires in several years time.
What an absolute clusterfuck by Hughes, the transfer team and the board.
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Post by knyperstokie on Apr 20, 2018 12:01:56 GMT
Berahino is an employee with the same employment rights as anyone else. He should also have a description of his duties in his contact (of employment). Even if SCFC could find a way of sacking him he could still go to a tribunal and claim for unfair dismissal. With the remained of his contract worth millions it would be worth it to him.
Better to take him to one side, offer him a pile of cash and get rid.
Now for Wimmer...
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Post by Veritas on Apr 20, 2018 12:06:33 GMT
I would actually play him against Burnley.
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Post by knyperstokie on Apr 20, 2018 12:31:20 GMT
I would actually play him against Burnley. Big, big gamble. I've seen him come on as a sub a few times and he just wanders about uninterested in what's going on.
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Post by Veritas on Apr 20, 2018 12:44:42 GMT
I would actually play him against Burnley. Big, big gamble. I've seen him come on as a sub a few times and he just wanders about uninterested in what's going on. Big gamble territory is exactly where we are, at least we are now creating a few chances but against Spurs and West Ham Diouf missed really good openings we can't afford to do that on Saturday. I know Berahino hasn't scored for two years other than throwing on the kids we have few other options.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 20, 2018 12:54:29 GMT
Big, big gamble. I've seen him come on as a sub a few times and he just wanders about uninterested in what's going on. Big gamble territory is exactly where we are, at least we are now creating a few chances but against Spurs and West Ham Diouf missed really good openings we can't afford to do that on Saturday. I know Berahino hasn't scored for two years other than throwing on the kids we have few other options. Being totally honest, I wouldn't allow him to be any where near the stadium never mind the pitch. He's totally disrepectful to his employers, fellow professionals, teamates and us the supporters. How would you feel if you were Diouf, Crouch or Campbell and the "waster" took your place? Its about all "hands to the pumps" at the moment, pulling in the same direction, nothing more nothing less.
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Post by foster on Apr 20, 2018 12:58:43 GMT
I would actually play him against Burnley. So would I if we're not winning by half time. I'd even go 3 up front from the start maybe. We've got nothing to lose now and at least if he's shit (as can be expected), he'll get a warm reception from the crowd.
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Post by foster on Apr 20, 2018 13:04:36 GMT
I'm sure there aren't many clubs that make relative sized transfers that have so little impact as Palacios, Imbula, Berahino and Wimmer.
These are 4 of the 5 most expensive signings we've made in the past 10 years and no one at the club seems to be held accountable.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 13:11:28 GMT
Big, big gamble. I've seen him come on as a sub a few times and he just wanders about uninterested in what's going on. Big gamble territory is exactly where we are, at least we are now creating a few chances but against Spurs and West Ham Diouf missed really good openings we can't afford to do that on Saturday. I know Berahino hasn't scored for two years other than throwing on the kids we have few other options. I can't see Berahino playing against Burnley on Saturday TBH. Not because of his fitness, or his form ( lack of ), but mainly because the game is on Sunday.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Apr 20, 2018 13:21:43 GMT
Time for a sting operation with the sun journalists. Film him accepting a bung for throwing a game or something of that ilk. Contract ripped up and football career over in an instant.
I’ve never wished so much ill will on a Stoke player as I do Berahino.
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Post by robrigo on Apr 20, 2018 13:29:51 GMT
If it was up to me i would never have him play for this club again - along with a few others.
Hes let us down badly. We gave him a second chance at his career and he has thrown it back at us. If he and quite a few others had carried out their duties professionally we wouldn’t be in this mess, but they didn’t and we are.
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Post by thegift on Apr 20, 2018 13:33:04 GMT
If it was up to me i would never have him play for this club again - along with a few others. Hes let us down badly. We gave him a second chance at his career and he has thrown it back at us. If he and quite a few others had carried out their duties professionally we wouldn’t be in this mess, but they didn’t and we are. Another one i would love to meet in person.
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Berahino
Apr 20, 2018 13:34:12 GMT
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Post by robrigo on Apr 20, 2018 13:34:12 GMT
Who me or Berahino? 😂
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 20, 2018 13:38:30 GMT
he might be all right in the championship.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Apr 20, 2018 13:49:39 GMT
he might be all right in the championship. If Berahino played in the championship and scored 100 goals I would still be of the opion that he’s a disrespectful individual whom I wouldn’t want near SCFC. He has taken the piss for 18 months. He has been a significant part of this disastrous season that looks like a relegation year. I never want want to see him wear an SCFC shirt again.
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Post by JoeinOz on Apr 20, 2018 13:52:28 GMT
he might be all right in the championship. If Berahino played in the championship and scored 100 goals I would still be of the opion that he’s a disrespectful individual whom I wouldn’t want near SCFC. He has taken the piss for 18 months. He has been a significant part of this disastrous season that looks like a relegation year. I never want want to see him wear an SCFC shirt again. I don't really. But if his exit can't be negotiated we might as well see what we can do with him. We might as well get something back for the astronomical outlay.
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Post by Davef on Apr 20, 2018 14:19:33 GMT
If it was up to me i would never have him play for this club again - along with a few others. Hes let us down badly. We gave him a second chance at his career and he has thrown it back at us. If he and quite a few others had carried out their duties professionally we wouldn’t be in this mess, but they didn’t and we are. Another one i would love to meet in person. I'm sure you could find him to meet him in person if you really put your mind to it.
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Post by crownmeking on Apr 20, 2018 14:28:39 GMT
Berahino is an employee with the same employment rights as anyone else. He should also have a description of his duties in his contact (of employment). Even if SCFC could find a way of sacking him he could still go to a tribunal and claim for unfair dismissal. With the remained of his contract worth millions it would be worth it to him. Better to take him to one side, offer him a pile of cash and get rid. Now for Wimmer... Are you sure he is an employee and not a contractor?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2018 14:40:00 GMT
I would actually play him against Burnley. Big, big gamble. I've seen him come on as a sub a few times and he just wanders about uninterested in what's going on. It's actually incredible the amount of games/minutes he's played for us and just how little impact he's had. He has literally offered nothing. Nothing at all.
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