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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 10:01:53 GMT
Question,,,,,I work hard provide a service, if my van breaks down you will all pay for it to get it repaired??? EXACTLY Probably not cus youre a bit of a cunt Bloody charming 😮
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 10:03:41 GMT
I am the first to give to charity wether it's cancer, poppy appeal, help for heroes, kiddies charity etc etc so I ain't heartless, don't see that as being heartless just don't see this as a worthy cause to contribute that's all I'm saying,,, let's all stick together and not bicker over a barge
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Post by shrewspotter on Jan 6, 2018 10:13:43 GMT
I hope it gets back up and running
One small point though.....isn't she insured?
Surely any business would take out accident insurance etc....isn't that the idea
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Post by mattador78 on Jan 6, 2018 10:18:54 GMT
The simple principle is if you want to give, if you don’t then don’t. Either way neither side needs be preachy in regard to people’s opinions🤦🏻♂️ Or have we created two new factions in oatcakeboat hating wankstains and oatcakeboat rimmers, if so can we keep it civil because we are still struggling with arguments about Pulis let alone the sacred dish of an oatcake 😉
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Post by chigstoke on Jan 6, 2018 10:42:55 GMT
Question,,,,,I work hard provide a service, if my van breaks down you will all pay for it to get it repaired??? EXACTLY Well I wouldn't donate to help get YOUR van repaired. 'Twat'.
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Post by lordb on Jan 6, 2018 11:25:54 GMT
Question,,,,,I work hard provide a service, if my van breaks down you will all pay for it to get it repaired??? EXACTLY Well I wouldn't donate to help get YOUR van repaired. 'Twat'. Isn't that the point he's making?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 11:51:47 GMT
I am the first to give to charity wether it's cancer, poppy appeal, help for heroes, kiddies charity etc etc so I ain't heartless, don't see that as being heartless just don't see this as a worthy cause to contribute that's all I'm saying,,, let's all stick together and not bicker over a barge Whether or not anyone agrees to donate or not, the important point here is that these are Stoke folk, Stoke supporters, and we should all agree that we wish them the best in getting their business back on the canal. They are good people and anyone who sees a business opportunity and makes it into a success should be applauded. I hope they make shit loads of money,. UP THE BOATCAKE BOAT!!!! and I do agree it should be called The BOATCAKE not The Boatcake Boat.
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Post by thedarkknight on Jan 6, 2018 12:17:12 GMT
If the oatcakes were free I'd gladly fund but when they charge a nice price for a oatcake I'm sure she can afford to get it bloody repaired,,,, I don't know some bloody people want charity all the bloody time,,,take take bloody take God she must make a fortune selling oatcakes at just over a quid a pop for about 2 hours every 2 weeks with no outlay such as fuel, ingredients and her own time. Well it must be viable and worth her while. Doubt she does it for the love of a bunch of football fans. Pull your head out of your ass man! It's a business not a charity.
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Post by spitshaw on Jan 6, 2018 12:24:34 GMT
Really? A small fortune. If they sell a cheese oatcake for a quid, less ingredients, amenities, licence(?), tax etc they will be lucky to make 50p. So that's 400 cheese oatcakes just to make 200 fucking quid Don’t be so naive you never see a poor man with an oatcake shop People like you do my nut in. Assuming everything yet I guarantee you have 0 knowledge of the exact finances of any single person that owns an oatcake shop Moron
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Post by butlerstbob on Jan 6, 2018 12:26:14 GMT
The simple principle is if you want to give, if you don’t then don’t. Either way neither side needs be preachy in regard to people’s opinions🤦🏻♂️ Or have we created two new factions in oatcakeboat hating wankstains and oatcakeboat rimmers, if so can we keep it civil because we are still struggling with arguments about Pulis let alone the sacred dish of an oatcake 😉 It really is this simple, if you wish to donate then donate, if not keep your beak out and don't chastise others for trying to help with raising cash for a small business, when you consider the boat probably cost anything from 30-40k upwards selling oatcakes at a quid a shot ain't going to make them millions very soon!
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Post by Pedropotter on Jan 6, 2018 12:30:53 GMT
I am the first to give to charity wether it's cancer, poppy appeal, help for heroes, kiddies charity etc etc so I ain't heartless, don't see that as being heartless just don't see this as a worthy cause to contribute that's all I'm saying,,, let's all stick together and not bicker over a barge Whether or not anyone agrees to donate or not, the important point here is that these are Stoke folk, Stoke supporters, and we should all agree that we wish them the best in getting their business back on the canal. They are good people and anyone who sees a business opportunity and makes it into a success should be applauded. I hope they make shit loads of money,. UP THE BOATCAKE BOAT!!!! and I do agree it should be called The BOATCAKE not The Boatcake Boat. Oatie McBoatface?
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Post by felonious on Jan 6, 2018 12:42:41 GMT
They sell alcohol twat so I assure you they make a profit They don't sell alcohol that's the 'pub boat' that often moors next to it. Separate business He's too pissed by the time he gets to the oatcakes
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Post by OldStokie on Jan 6, 2018 13:44:54 GMT
Can't see what all the fuss is about. Because it's not on my route I've never once used the boat, but I very probably would if it was on my way to the match. So, the naive, stupid OS has just jumped out of his old Fiat Punto and donated a tenner. Why? Simple. They're fellow Stokies who're in a spot of bother and a tenner will neither make me or break me and it might just alleviate some of the shit they're in. And I couldn't give a shit if they're insured or not. Anybody who has dealt with an insurance claim will know the first thing that happens is that they come running to you with wads of cash to help out - not!
To those who run the boat... I hope you get things sorted, folks. All best,
OS.
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Post by stokeysi on Jan 6, 2018 13:48:57 GMT
Not sure if this belongs in this forum or "everything else" but lots of us know Kay on the Oatcake Boat really well from matchdays so I figure people will want to know. There was an accident at Etruria earlier today while they were trying to remove some wire from around the propeller. They ended up taking on 3 feet of water in the front section of the boat and very nearly sinking it, from what I hear. Some of Kay's friends are rallying around and trying to be helpful and a fundraising page has been set up to try to raise £200 to sort some of the immediate needs www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/caz-collinsAdmin feel free to move (or pin) this as you see fit. A metaphor for the season
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jan 6, 2018 13:51:50 GMT
Why do people need to be so nasty and bitter. It's very much the 'in' thing these days. Nastiness and bitterness are all over this forum, and the EE board as well.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 6, 2018 14:15:44 GMT
Don’t be so naive you never see a poor man with an oatcake shop People like you do my nut in. Assuming everything yet I guarantee you have 0 knowledge of the exact finances of any single person that owns an oatcake shop Moron Actually my best mate owns one so I do , Moron 😂
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 6, 2018 14:26:36 GMT
Why do people need to be so nasty and bitter. It's very much the 'in' thing these days. Nastiness and bitterness are all over this forum, and the EE board as well. Sad but true Couple of wins and some nice sunny days would help...
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 6, 2018 14:28:13 GMT
Can't see what all the fuss is about. Because it's not on my route I've never once used the boat, but I very probably would if it was on my way to the match. So, the naive, stupid OS has just jumped out of his old Fiat Punto and donated a tenner. Why? Simple. They're fellow Stokies who're in a spot of bother and a tenner will neither make me or break me and it might just alleviate some of the shit they're in. And I couldn't give a shit if they're insured or not. Anybody who has dealt with an insurance claim will know the first thing that happens is that they come running to you with wads of cash to help out - not! To those who run the boat... I hope you get things sorted, folks. All best, OS. It's the jumping part that worries me xx
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Post by innocentbystander on Jan 6, 2018 14:30:15 GMT
Best wishes to the unique Boatcake, they provide an excellent and popular service. Apparently visiting Arsenal fans were amused by what they described as "1970s prices".
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jan 6, 2018 14:44:11 GMT
It's very much the 'in' thing these days. Nastiness and bitterness are all over this forum, and the EE board as well. Sad but true Couple of wins and some nice sunny days would help... It's not just on here tbf Sal, it's on Facebook, Twitter and the comments page of most daily and local newspapers. Noticed it a lot more in the last couple of months - particularly when it's related to our football club - that bit's unsurprising of course but the level of vitriol when it comes to all subjects is definitely on the rise. Yet, face to face, people are generally nice as pie. Funny isn't it?
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Post by mermaidsal on Jan 6, 2018 15:18:50 GMT
Sad but true Couple of wins and some nice sunny days would help... It's not just on here tbf Sal, it's on Facebook, Twitter and the comments page of most daily and local newspapers. Noticed it a lot more in the last couple of months - particularly when it's related to our football club - that bit's unsurprising of course but the level of vitriol when it comes to all subjects is definitely on the rise. Yet, face to face, people are generally nice as pie. Funny isn't it? That is so true. We could always mention austerity and the Tory govt here too.
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Jan 6, 2018 15:34:11 GMT
If the oatcakes were free I'd gladly fund but when they charge a nice price for a oatcake I'm sure she can afford to get it bloody repaired,,,, I don't know some bloody people want charity all the bloody time,,,take take bloody take If they run a business or even just a boat in fact, they should have insurance. If they don't have insurace they can use the money they saved from not choosing to pay it. But while we are at it, I dropped my Whisky glass a couple weeks ago.... Anyone fancy chipping in for my new one?
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 6, 2018 16:44:09 GMT
Not sure of the details of the incident but the OP says that water was coming in from the front (bow) of the boat, although the initial problem was a fouled prop.
Marine insurance like all others is a pain in the Arse when you come to make a claim. In any event if the cost is a few hundred pounds it would probably not worth claiming because of the excess, and loss of no claims bonus.
If the boat is also there home I feel sorry for them at this time of year. I can tell you from experience that Cold and Damp on a boat is not very pleasant.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jan 6, 2018 16:58:11 GMT
Not sure that an event such as this would be covered by insurance, and if the damage is only a few hundred quid the excess would probably be more than that. The cost of repairs will be considerably more if they have bent the prop shaft and have to have the boat lifted out to repair/replace. This. Maybe there's a few grand worth of damage plus lose of earnings. Maybe the 200 quid makes a big difference. Donate. Or don't. But coming on here telling the world that selling a few hundred Oatcake's every other week means you're coining it in is daft. Not to mention a bit nasty at times.
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Post by StokeTudoGuy on Jan 6, 2018 17:09:51 GMT
Not sure that an event such as this would be covered by insurance, and if the damage is only a few hundred quid the excess would probably be more than that. The cost of repairs will be considerably more if they have bent the prop shaft and have to have the boat lifted out to repair/replace. This isnt just a boat accident, this is a business premises accident. If they had a shop that burned down due to an accidental fire and they didnt have loss of income cover then it would be more comparable to this. A narrow boat is a large investment, a business in a narrow boat is an even larger investment not even considering the accepted maintenance and running costs. If business stability is critical to the running of this boat then I hope they had the sense to have good cover.... If they didn't then they need to learn from this and change their approach moving forward, but they should have at least pocketed the money they saved going sans-cover. This isnt even considering any liability on behalf of who was doing the work or even if they chose to do this on the cheap and do it themselves causing their own accidental damage. Ultimately systems are in place to protect against these kinds of eventualities, the only reason they should be left up the creek is if they have tried to cut corners and save cash.... If you do that then you have to take the lumps that come with it and realise you have already pocketed money that otherwise would have been spent.
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Post by senojbor on Jan 6, 2018 17:54:20 GMT
Can't see what all the fuss is about. Because it's not on my route I've never once used the boat, but I very probably would if it was on my way to the match. So, the naive, stupid OS has just jumped out of his old Fiat Punto and donated a tenner. Why? Simple. They're fellow Stokies who're in a spot of bother and a tenner will neither make me or break me and it might just alleviate some of the shit they're in. And I couldn't give a shit if they're insured or not. Anybody who has dealt with an insurance claim will know the first thing that happens is that they come running to you with wads of cash to help out - not! To those who run the boat... I hope you get things sorted, folks. All best, OS. I've got problems too - the central heatings packed in and it's cold as Ice. Wing me a tenner my my way OS ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 18:00:18 GMT
I would not wish to harm Hughes but part of me is disappointed he wasn't wrapped around the prop
Was he steering at the time?
Reminiscent of current form
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 18:00:40 GMT
Crazy... my oatcakes can barely contain bean juice, why would you build a boat out of them ?
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 6, 2018 18:01:58 GMT
Not sure that an event such as this would be covered by insurance, and if the damage is only a few hundred quid the excess would probably be more than that. The cost of repairs will be considerably more if they have bent the prop shaft and have to have the boat lifted out to repair/replace. This isnt just a boat accident, this is a business premises accident. If they had a shop that burned down due to an accidental fire and they didnt have loss of income cover then it would be more comparable to this. A narrow boat is a large investment, a business in a narrow boat is an even larger investment not even considering the accepted maintenance and running costs. If business stability is critical to the running of this boat then I hope they had the sense to have good cover.... If they didn't then they need to learn from this and change their approach moving forward, but they should have at least pocketed the money they saved going sans-cover. This isnt even considering any liability on behalf of who was doing the work or even if they chose to do this on the cheap and do it themselves causing their own accidental damage. Ultimately systems are in place to protect against these kinds of eventualities, the only reason they should be left up the creek is if they have tried to cut corners and save cash.... If you do that then you have to take the lumps that come with it and realise you have already pocketed money that otherwise would have been spent. Don’t disagree with anything that you have said. I am an experienced sailor but admit that I know nothing about canal boats. Have never even been on one. It would be easy for me to generalise about boaters either at sea or on inland waterways but I choose not to do so, but there are many similarities, particularly for those who choose to make it a way of life, and attempt to earn an income from it.. I was attempting to clarify the numerous posts which asked about insurance. If they had any or proper cover is not my concern As I said I feel sorry for theire misfortune and wish them well
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2018 18:32:49 GMT
Not sure of the details of the incident but the OP says that water was coming in from the front (bow) of the boat, although the initial problem was a fouled prop. Marine insurance like all others is a pain in the Arse when you come to make a claim. In any event if the cost is a few hundred pounds it would probably not worth claiming because of the excess, and loss of no claims bonus. If the boat is also there home I feel sorry for them at this time of year. I can tell you from experience that Cold and Damp on a boat is not very pleasant. ⚓️ That's why the majority pay a mortgage
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