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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 11:49:31 GMT
Fugly
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 28, 2017 11:53:43 GMT
This 'headless chicken' retort is just plain boorish. He's one of our three top players. Tackles, scores , assists, closes down. Maybe not good enough to start for Liverpool. Definitely good enough for us. Like it or lump it, he IS a "headless Chicken".... But like I put further up.....he's a "QUALITY headless chicken"!!! And that's fine further up the field, but NOT when you're playing as a defensive midfielder!!!
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Dec 28, 2017 11:55:07 GMT
Tenacious, always puts in a shift, decent first touch, makes good runs into the box and sets up goal scoring opportunities. And comes across as a decent bloke - glad to have him at the club.
Early doors he was much maligned as a number 10 - mainly because some read the situation as him displacing Bojan who on his day is clearly more of a natural in that position. Now that Bojan (unfortunately) looks like a busted flush we could do far worse than playing Joe Allen in that role. Although he has many of the qualities of a defensive midfielder he doesn't have the physical presence - I'd rather see him playing in front of a beast and a player who can reliably recycle the ball.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Dec 28, 2017 12:00:33 GMT
This 'headless chicken' retort is just plain boorish. He's one of our three top players. Tackles, scores , assists, closes down. Maybe not good enough to start for Liverpool. Definitely good enough for us. 'Headless chicken' is just an impolite way of saying 'keeps himself fit and is willing to die for the cause on match day'. Have a look at Pep's teams, Barcelona and now Man City, you can be as good as you like but if you don't work your taters off on the pitch then you can forget about starting. There's "disciplinary" work rate God's which Man City have... And there's "headless chicken" work rate...Unfortunately, Joe falls into this category !!! I still like him though, I'm not knocking him, don't get me wrong!!!
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Post by stokiesteve on Dec 28, 2017 12:08:44 GMT
He top at mo he de man innit that what u think of joe allen? 4 me i agree with op joe quality int he Da best bro Leek massive
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Post by bingbang on Dec 28, 2017 12:10:59 GMT
I was talking to a large group of Liverpool fans and every one said they would love him back there. They desperately need someone to do the dirty work just like Kante, makalele, etc. then pass the ball to the ball players.
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Post by rrrrleek on Dec 28, 2017 17:00:03 GMT
Great signing one best hughes signing since arnautovic
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Post by mattythestokie on Dec 28, 2017 17:03:25 GMT
Some Stoke fans just don't know a good player when they see one.
He's been a very good player for us.
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Post by albundy on Dec 28, 2017 17:57:08 GMT
Runs all game
Chases down everything
Lack of ball control.. 2nd touch is generally a tackle
Cannot shoot
Liable to give away fouls
Chases the ball and leaves big gaps behind for the opposition to play the ball into
But... hes one of our key players at the moment and im glad hes in our team
Heart and ball control of a lion
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Post by maine on Dec 28, 2017 18:02:42 GMT
A high quality premier league player. Our most valuable in my opinion. I'd have him over the moody Nzonzi anyday.
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Post by charlesjefferson on Dec 28, 2017 18:14:47 GMT
Joe Allen over "the moody" Steven Nzonzi?
Many funny things are posted on here but that just about takes the cake.
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 28, 2017 18:16:15 GMT
Great signing epitomizes everything about our club. Honest, hard working and gritty to the end. I believe he should be made up to captain as if everybody put as much effort in as Joe we would probably be back in the top 10.
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Post by slicko on Dec 28, 2017 18:41:11 GMT
Solid, tenacious middle third player.
Glad we have him.
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Post by padders01 on Dec 28, 2017 18:42:17 GMT
Player of the season so far
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 28, 2017 18:58:47 GMT
Player of the season so far Not hard the way most of the others have played the season so far, but Joe has been consistent fairly good alright
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2017 19:30:40 GMT
Would be brilliant if he had a defensive midfielder with leg muscles next to him, and a creative number 10 in front of him.
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Post by maine on Dec 28, 2017 19:37:41 GMT
Joe Allen over "the moody" Steven Nzonzi?
Many funny things are posted on here but that just about takes the cake.
I stand by it. Because the likes of lesser talents such as Glen Whelan were running around all over the place doing the dirty work Mr Nzonzi was able to look elegant. He was far less valuable to Stoke then than Allen is now.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 28, 2017 19:40:12 GMT
Joe allen quality his work rate does it 4 me The guy has been brilliant in recent weeks. When the going has got tough he's been one of the few players who have stood up and been counted. Be never shy's away from the game and his work rate is fantastic.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 28, 2017 19:40:22 GMT
Some Stoke fans just don't know a good player when they see one. He's been a very good player for us. He's created way more problems than he's solved. Problems we still have, problems that still need solving. And he can't play in the deeper roles for us. Is that down to him not listening or the manager's instructions?
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Post by scfc75 on Dec 28, 2017 19:44:00 GMT
Some Stoke fans just don't know a good player when they see one. He's been a very good player for us. He's created way more problems than he's solved. Problems we still have, problems that still need solving. And he can't play in the deeper roles for us. Is that down to him not listening or the manager's instructions? This suggests that we would be better without him than with him. Which given our other options, is wrong.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 28, 2017 19:47:03 GMT
He's created way more problems than he's solved. Problems we still have, problems that still need solving. And he can't play in the deeper roles for us. Is that down to him not listening or the manager's instructions? This suggests that we would be better without him than with him. Which given our other options, is wrong. The other options are toss too. When he signed we didn't him. We don't now. We need 2 central midfielders who offer way more and are disciplined with it. He's good for the bench but he's part of the reason we're awful.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 28, 2017 19:52:59 GMT
This suggests that we would be better without him than with him. Which given our other options, is wrong. The other options are toss too. When he signed we didn't him. We don't now. We need 2 central midfielders who offer way more and are disciplined with it. He's good for the bench but he's part of the reason we're awful. Can't agree with that Bayern, if we didn't have Joe recently we'd be really fucked
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 28, 2017 19:56:46 GMT
The other options are toss too. When he signed we didn't him. We don't now. We need 2 central midfielders who offer way more and are disciplined with it. He's good for the bench but he's part of the reason we're awful. Can't agree with that Bayern, if we didn't have Joe recently we'd be really fucked Totally agree! He's been one of the few bright sparks in recent weeks and is literally carrying the midfield on his own.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 28, 2017 20:01:58 GMT
The other options are toss too. When he signed we didn't him. We don't now. We need 2 central midfielders who offer way more and are disciplined with it. He's good for the bench but he's part of the reason we're awful. Can't agree with that Bayern, if we didn't have Joe recently we'd be really fucked We would but that doesn't abscond him of blame. Our defence is massively exposed because we don't have a midfield. A midfield he is a massive part of.
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Post by alster on Dec 28, 2017 20:03:14 GMT
Joe Allen over "the moody" Steven Nzonzi? Many funny things are posted on here but that just about takes the cake. I stand by it. Because the likes of lesser talents such as Glen Whelan were running around all over the place doing the dirty work Mr Nzonzi was able to look elegant. He was far less valuable to Stoke then than Allen is now. Check your stats fella N'Zonzi ran further than Whelan or anyone else in a Stoke shirt every game he played. He had more physical presence then Whelan he was more comfortable having the ball in tight situations than Whelan better in the air than Whelan in fact there is not a solitary thing that Whelan can do on a football pitch that N'Zonzi isn't better at and by some distance, you are a fool.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Dec 28, 2017 20:16:10 GMT
Joe Allen over "the moody" Steven Nzonzi? Many funny things are posted on here but that just about takes the cake. I stand by it. Because the likes of lesser talents such as Glen Whelan were running around all over the place doing the dirty work Mr Nzonzi was able to look elegant. He was far less valuable to Stoke then than Allen is now. You cannot be serious N'Zonzi was a holding midfield player..holding the ball up whilst others moved into space/created it. Without a holding midfield player nobody holds on to the ball long enough for anyone to move into space and that is one of our biggest problems. That is one reason everything keeps breaking dowm and we keep losing possession. N'Zonzi was one of the most underrated players I've ever seen at Stoke. Sadly missed.
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Post by alster on Dec 28, 2017 20:20:42 GMT
Can't agree with that Bayern, if we didn't have Joe recently we'd be really fucked We would but that doesn't abscond him of blame. Our defence is massively exposed because we don't have a midfield. A midfield he is a massive part of. Fair comment but his indiscipline would probably be livable with if he wasn't playing alongside an empty crisp packet.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Dec 28, 2017 20:22:23 GMT
We would but that doesn't abscond him of blame. Our defence is massively exposed because we don't have a midfield. A midfield he is a massive part of. Fair comment but his indiscipline would probably be livable with if he wasn't playing alongside an empty crisp packet. Possibly but I still would like to someone with much better discipline there. But is that on him? Does he get told when he's playing in the deeper role to still run around like a mad man?
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Post by alster on Dec 28, 2017 20:35:52 GMT
Fair comment but his indiscipline would probably be livable with if he wasn't playing alongside an empty crisp packet. Possibly but I still would like to someone with much better discipline there. But is that on him? Does he get told when he's playing in the deeper role to still run around like a mad man? God only knows in this set up anything is possible there is even a twisted kind of logic to it. He fields a team with a massive energy deficit so tries to use Joe's energy to compensate. I told you it was twisted a sane person would just stop fielding teams with a massive energy deficit but they've got champions league medals you know.
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Post by Boothen on Dec 28, 2017 22:16:41 GMT
You know what they say about the Welsh.
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