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Post by estp1863 on Jan 1, 2018 17:33:37 GMT
Well at least Hughes recognises it's Athleticism in midfield & full back that needs strengthening. Thank fuck for that, no mention of strikers then when asked about it on radio stoke All stuff we've said for nearly two years on here. Yes but it's reassuring to know we're not about to piss 20 mil up the wall on another striker
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 1, 2018 22:01:29 GMT
My contact tells me stoke are NOT one of the three mid table premier league clubs looking to sign Dembele.
Two Italian clubs also interested.
All supports the posts elsewhere that there is no money for new players
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 22, 2018 22:49:58 GMT
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 22, 2018 22:54:48 GMT
Everton? How many strikers do they want. Haven’t they just signed one for 20m. Sounds like it’s between us and Palace.
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Post by sportsman on Jan 22, 2018 22:59:26 GMT
And so the panic starts.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 22, 2018 23:13:19 GMT
Everton? How many strikers do they want. Haven’t they just signed one for 20m. Sounds like it’s between us and Palace. May be. A Ploy , you can have Dembele and we take benteke , another conspiracy theory .
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Post by Absolution on Jan 22, 2018 23:42:07 GMT
Everton? How many strikers do they want. Haven’t they just signed one for 20m. Sounds like it’s between us and Palace. May be. A Ploy , you can have Dembele and we take benteke , another conspiracy theory . That crossed my mind. I’m thinking Lambert might want Benteke more than Hodgson does.
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Post by miggoscfc on Jan 23, 2018 10:49:13 GMT
I wouldn't go any where near him at that price in that league.
You may as well buy someone for half the price from the championship. He's a name because he's at Celtic, he gets more chances per game than anyone else in the league and is playing the majority of his games against clubs that would struggle in L2.
If Bera was a risk then this is suicidal behaviour.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 23, 2018 10:52:14 GMT
I wouldn't go any where near him at that price in that league. You may as well buy someone for half the price from the championship. He's a name because he's at Celtic, he gets more chances per game than anyone else in the league and is playing the majority of his games against clubs that would struggle in L2. If Bera was a risk then this is suicidal behaviour. Agree you have got to be very wary of Scottish goals with the Adam Rooney and Louis Moult factor. But Dembele did score 15 in 37 games in the Championship as a teenager for Fulham. This talk of dodgy hamstrings would worry me a bit more.
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Post by nutterpotter on Jan 23, 2018 10:53:28 GMT
I wouldn't go any where near him at that price in that league. You may as well buy someone for half the price from the championship. He's a name because he's at Celtic, he gets more chances per game than anyone else in the league and is playing the majority of his games against clubs that would struggle in L2. If Bera was a risk then this is suicidal behaviour. He scored 15 goals in the Championship the season before he moved to Celtic. Think he was 18/19 at the time. That's very impressive for someone of that age!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 10:53:44 GMT
I wouldn't go any where near him at that price in that league. You may as well buy someone for half the price from the championship. He's a name because he's at Celtic, he gets more chances per game than anyone else in the league and is playing the majority of his games against clubs that would struggle in L2. If Bera was a risk then this is suicidal behaviour. He's a name because he's scored 21 goals in 42 games at Celtic, and was scoring goals in the Championship before that. Don't think he'll come here, but he's physical,mobile and proven he can score - on paper, a good signing for us and most clubs outside the top maybe 6 teams.
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Post by dadofsam on Jan 23, 2018 11:00:04 GMT
No more injury prone players PLEASE
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Post by adi on Jan 23, 2018 11:02:18 GMT
I wouldn't go any where near him at that price in that league. You may as well buy someone for half the price from the championship. He's a name because he's at Celtic, he gets more chances per game than anyone else in the league and is playing the majority of his games against clubs that would struggle in L2. If Bera was a risk then this is suicidal behaviour. He's a name because he's scored 21 goals in 42 games at Celtic, and was scoring goals in the Championship before that. Don't think he'll come here, but he's physical,mobile and proven he can score - on paper, a good signing for us and most clubs outside the top maybe 6 teams. Exactly. I think that had we not wasted £12m on Berahino then we’d be more inclined to have a stab at this. He’s less of a risk than Berahino I’d say, but I doubt the club would take another risk this soon after bera
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Post by lordb on Jan 23, 2018 11:12:16 GMT
No more injury prone players PLEASE Understandable sentiment. However if we want players better than what we have going to be an issue somewhere.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 23, 2018 11:37:21 GMT
I wouldn't go any where near him at that price in that league. You may as well buy someone for half the price from the championship. He's a name because he's at Celtic, he gets more chances per game than anyone else in the league and is playing the majority of his games against clubs that would struggle in L2. If Bera was a risk then this is suicidal behaviour. He scored 15 goals in the Championship the season before he moved to Celtic. Think he was 18/19 at the time. That's very impressive for someone of that age! You could argue he was certainly worth £10m+ (in this market) at the time he went to Celtic - just based on that one season and his age? Celtic ended up paying some crazily low compensation fee based on the fact he was going to a non-English team, didn't they?
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Post by andystokey on Jan 23, 2018 11:46:20 GMT
I wouldn't go any where near him at that price in that league. You may as well buy someone for half the price from the championship. He's a name because he's at Celtic, he gets more chances per game than anyone else in the league and is playing the majority of his games against clubs that would struggle in L2. If Bera was a risk then this is suicidal behaviour. I don't think so. It's not much different than Benteke to Villa from Belgium. You have to accept a certain hit rate of less than 100% in the price range we can compete in. A lot less for strikers. Besides we need an out all and someone to lead the line as much as a goal scorer. I think he's worth a go at that for given his age.
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Post by cruxmeister on Jan 23, 2018 11:47:24 GMT
I wonder if Berahino to Celtic would be on the cards? Could be just what he needs to remember what it feels like to score a goal again. Maybe loan to end of season with Dembele coming here. I'd be happy with that. Then again, I'd be happy to give them Berahino for 20 quid and a curly wurly.
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 23, 2018 11:48:49 GMT
£20m is a heck of a lot of money but when you compare some of the recent moves for similar money:
Keane to Everton £25m Sakho to Palace £25m Iheanacho to Leicester £25m Ake to Bournemouth £20m Gray to Watford £18m Neves to Wolves £16m Assombalonga to Boro £15m Wood to Burnley £15m Clucas to Swansea £15m
...a young forward who can score (admittedly not in the PL as yet) could end up a great investment.
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Post by pez75 on Jan 23, 2018 11:52:25 GMT
£20M is fuck all these days. I cannot tell you if he will come good in the Prem but to just paint him with the "Scottish league is crap" brush is daft - he is clearly a decent player.
Will they not accept £10M plus Berahino is a swap deal?
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Post by lordb on Jan 23, 2018 11:57:59 GMT
£20M is fuck all these days. I cannot tell you if he will come good in the Prem but to just paint him with the "Scottish league is crap" brush is daft - he is clearly a decent player. Will they not accept £10M plus Berahino is a swap deal? + He looked good in last season's Champions League. We are not going to sign a proven Premier League goalscorer without issues so we have to take gambles. The alternative is to go with what we have.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Jan 23, 2018 12:18:04 GMT
The reality is, we won’t be buying strikers who regularly bang in 15+ goals, we like many have to take calculated risks on ‘prospects just like Dembele
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Post by ramin on Jan 23, 2018 12:31:07 GMT
I just hope we're in for a striker. we can't rely on Diouf and Crouch for the rest of the season.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 23, 2018 12:35:18 GMT
Would Benteke be available if Dembele went to Palace? Benteke has a very good Premier League strike rate every season apart from this one. And only recently 27.
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Post by Veritas on Jan 23, 2018 12:36:48 GMT
£20M is fuck all these days. I cannot tell you if he will come good in the Prem but to just paint him with the "Scottish league is crap" brush is daft - he is clearly a decent player. Will they not accept £10M plus Berahino is a swap deal? If the asking price is £20m they might accept Saido plus £25m.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 23, 2018 14:25:36 GMT
Brighton pulled out because of his dodgy hamstrings.
Palace are likely to sign him.
I would therefore try and get Benteke in if lambert thinks he can get him going again
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Post by jeycov on Jan 23, 2018 14:31:28 GMT
Brighton pulled out because of his dodgy hamstrings. Palace are likely to sign him. I would therefore try and get Benteke in if lambert thinks he can get him going again Or look elsewhere
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Post by vahl on Jan 23, 2018 14:38:48 GMT
Kevin Gameiro is going for £18m. Think he is joining up with Rafa though.
I reckon Dembele is a bigger risk than Berahino and not worth taking at that price. We should have a look at Batshuayi for sure though!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:43:51 GMT
Brighton pulled out because of his dodgy hamstrings. Palace are likely to sign him. I would therefore try and get Benteke in if lambert thinks he can get him going again I like Benteke but I think he is going to cost a fortune and I don’t see why Palace would sell him to a rival at this point of the season.
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Post by pez75 on Jan 23, 2018 14:48:21 GMT
Kevin Gameiro is going for £18m. Think he is joining up with Rafa though. I reckon Dembele is a bigger risk than Berahino and not worth taking at that price. We should have a look at Batshuayi for sure though! Batshuayi is awful. Like a bigger, slower Diouf. What category of risk does Dembele fall into? There is always a chance a striker may not click at a new club, but to say he is more risky than Berahino who we have found out is trying to end his career and retire before he is 25 is a bold statement...
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 23, 2018 14:48:22 GMT
Much prefer to go big on a central midfield player, we can get by with Diouf up front until the end of the season especially with the pressing game we're now adopting. When we go big on a new striker we need to make sure it's the right striker, we can't keep getting it wrong.
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