|
Post by thegift on Dec 17, 2017 20:37:20 GMT
You don’t think they see the empty seats with 15 mins to go? I genuinely don't think it has rang any alarm bells yet.
|
|
|
Post by flinteastwood on Dec 17, 2017 20:37:55 GMT
There is only so many times we can hear about getting a reaction from an embarrassing result from Hughes and getting the same tired and weak defence and a bereft of ideas attack the game after. For me he's past the point of no return, he has to go.
|
|
|
Post by itsallgonepetetone on Dec 17, 2017 20:38:10 GMT
He should have gone in the Summer. At worst he should have gone on the international break. Any new manager now has less winnable games and less time to prepare for the transfer window, both ins and outs. Scholes and Cartwright are just as responsible. Coates is either senile, accepting of relegation or a puppet chairman
|
|
|
Post by march4 on Dec 17, 2017 20:38:34 GMT
Should have been sacked 18 months ago.
This procrastination is killing us.
|
|
|
Post by neddy on Dec 17, 2017 20:39:13 GMT
You don’t think they see the empty seats with 15 mins to go? I genuinely don't think it has rang any alarm bells yet. I disagree just my opinion mind.....I still think beside the scenes they are trying to the best thing for the club.....just think it is not that easy!
|
|
|
Post by neddy on Dec 17, 2017 20:39:35 GMT
I still think there totally oblivious Really?
|
|
|
Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Dec 17, 2017 20:39:47 GMT
The team needs at least three or four new players, but nobody in their right mind would trust Hughes to spend the money wisely considering he's already wasted so much money. A new manager needs time to assess the squad and work out where those improvements are needed, which he's not going to have if we limp on with Mark Hughes for too long. The owners have to be bold and get rid of him now before it's too late. This! If he's going he has to go now as after the WBA game and Christmas it's going to be ages before the appoint anyone, transfer window, etc. Why not do the back of the oatie all red and do a 27,000 print!
|
|
|
Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 17, 2017 20:40:12 GMT
Yesterday showed more than anything else, what we've all known deep down for a while. There is no Lazarus like comeback for Hughes. He's lost and sadly looking increasingly pathetic. Such a shame but this is now a matter of urgency and if the board haven't at least identified, if not sounded out a replacement then it is a massive dereliction of duty.
To expect a new man to come in and work with our current recruitment team is also unsustainable. The new broom, when it comes, needs to sweep out places other than the dugout. The club is starting to look diseased at all levels.
|
|
|
Post by barnscfc1 on Dec 17, 2017 20:43:25 GMT
. I can’t beat the thought of losing our premiership status after 30 did years of hurt but this is a massive call? I feel exactly the same don't know how i would cope and whether i would bother signing up for another season.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 20:46:31 GMT
Constant talk of WE need to defend better when HE is the man responsible for the shambles.
Sells and loans out players who are better than what we have now then replaces them with expensive flops.
Going to be a hard job for the next guy to clear the decks of so much rubble.
Square pegs in round holes all too reminiscent of Pulis , is there an unwritten law at Stoke that stops them from buying a player who actually plays in the position we want him for.
|
|
|
Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 20:49:34 GMT
If you'd done this yesterday I would've voted get rid straight away. Now it's apparent he's staying, for West Brom, I find it difficult to say get rid as it feels as though its counterproductive. However, for me, Burnley was a must not lose game, we lost. Yesterday became a must win, we were abject in our attempts to score and failed miserably. We look clueless at times, both offensively and defensively. We have no real pace in the team and there are a few players who go hiding at times. I don't doubt most of the players are trying, but it still isn't good enough. We desperately need a clean sheet and we need to start shooting at the goal if we want to score. Hughes has now got this week and surely he must focus on doing the dry basics. Defenders practice defending, midfielders practice passing, forwards practice shooting. Let's do the simple things on Saturday, no more individual errors in our own box - if it comes to you boot it out an let the midfield work to win it back. If it drops near you in or around the box have a whack at it. For this reason I've gone with he's got until West Brom. He must win. So disagreeing with the decisions the club are making is counterproductive. You'd rather go down with the Titanic than tell Captain Smith there's a fucking iceberg in our path you blind tool.
|
|
|
Post by mistermole on Dec 17, 2017 20:55:15 GMT
Time to say thanks a lot Mark but pack your bags and be on your way now. There are just too many fundamental flaws in the way the team is picked and the way the team plays. Take the example of throw-ins, no movement and we end throwing the ball high for someone to flick it on and hope. 9 times out of 10 we just lose posession. Then as someone in another thread said, we never leave anyone on the halfway line when we are defending a corner. We can never counter attack quickly as we never have anyone to play the ball out to. Simple things I know but to me they say that the coaching staff just aren't up to it. Players are now lacking confidence, don't look for enough and worse are beginning to show signs of frustration\anger and confusion in the pitch. I don't see any point therefore in keeping the status quo. When cancer is diagnosed quick surgery provides the best prognosis.
|
|
|
Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 17, 2017 21:08:53 GMT
If you'd done this yesterday I would've voted get rid straight away. Now it's apparent he's staying, for West Brom, I find it difficult to say get rid as it feels as though its counterproductive. However, for me, Burnley was a must not lose game, we lost. Yesterday became a must win, we were abject in our attempts to score and failed miserably. We look clueless at times, both offensively and defensively. We have no real pace in the team and there are a few players who go hiding at times. I don't doubt most of the players are trying, but it still isn't good enough. We desperately need a clean sheet and we need to start shooting at the goal if we want to score. Hughes has now got this week and surely he must focus on doing the dry basics. Defenders practice defending, midfielders practice passing, forwards practice shooting. Let's do the simple things on Saturday, no more individual errors in our own box - if it comes to you boot it out an let the midfield work to win it back. If it drops near you in or around the box have a whack at it. For this reason I've gone with he's got until West Brom. He must win. So disagreeing with the decisions the club are making is counterproductive. You'd rather go down with the Titanic than tell Captain Smith there's a fucking iceberg in our path you blind tool. No, if I was on a boat and could see an iceberg and my life mattered then I would say something immediately. This isn't even close to the same scenario. The reason I've said it's counterproductive, in my opinion, is that i'm already resigned to the fact he's going to be here. To go back to your analogy, you're still stood shouting at captain Smith calling him a blind fool whilst he blissfully ignores you. I'm down on the deck trying to look at how we solve the problem and what we do to limit the damage.
|
|
|
Post by Gunslinger on Dec 17, 2017 21:10:18 GMT
He has had plenty of time to turn things around but hasn't managed to do so, unfortunately. It's time to go.
|
|
|
Post by mrcoke on Dec 17, 2017 21:11:51 GMT
I have defended Hughes as vehemently as anyone on this board, confident than when we came up against weaker teams we would start to pick up points. Any team can suffer a loss, so a defeat is upsetting but not the end of the world. However, since meeting weaker teams we have lost leading positions against Brighton and Palace and are now even failing to score. The manner of yesterday's defeat and continued terrible defending, has lead me to conclude enough is enough. I now feel we have a better chance of a result against West Brom if Hughes is gone.
|
|
|
Post by malteser68 on Dec 17, 2017 21:13:39 GMT
Keep faith We will do better. We have to Loads of teams in the same shit It comes down to no viable candidates. I completely disagree Plus there are viable candidates (over and above the fact that at this point in time any change is better than nothing) Pearson Quique Sanchez Flores Koeman O'neil
|
|
|
Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 21:13:41 GMT
So disagreeing with the decisions the club are making is counterproductive. You'd rather go down with the Titanic than tell Captain Smith there's a fucking iceberg in our path you blind tool. No, if I was on a boat and could see an iceberg and my life mattered then I would say something immediately. This isn't even close to the same scenario. The reason I've said it's counterproductive, in my opinion, is that i'm already resigned to the fact he's going to be here. To go back to your analogy, you're still stood shouting at captain Smith calling him a blind fool whilst he blissfully ignores you. I'm down on the deck trying to look at how we solve the problem and what we do to limit the damage. If the problem is on the bridge its no use flouncing around on deck wrap the nearest fire extinguisher around Captain Smith's head and steer or hope some fucker else does.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 21:13:56 GMT
Have been a big advocate of him in the past, but he has totally lost the plot and we need to get rid asap to have any chance of staying up.
|
|
|
Post by thevoid on Dec 17, 2017 21:16:56 GMT
Started off well and then out-Pulised Pulis.
|
|
|
Post by juiceandbits on Dec 17, 2017 21:18:25 GMT
My message would be bold, be brave, first in getting rid of him (now) and then appointment a new manager.
|
|
|
Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 21:21:27 GMT
My message would be bold, be brave, first in getting rid of him (now) and then appointment a new manager. Bold and brave are not words I'd associate with Peter Coates.
|
|
|
Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 17, 2017 21:22:03 GMT
No, if I was on a boat and could see an iceberg and my life mattered then I would say something immediately. This isn't even close to the same scenario. The reason I've said it's counterproductive, in my opinion, is that i'm already resigned to the fact he's going to be here. To go back to your analogy, you're still stood shouting at captain Smith calling him a blind fool whilst he blissfully ignores you. I'm down on the deck trying to look at how we solve the problem and what we do to limit the damage. If the problem is on the bridge its no use flouncing around on deck wrap the nearest fire extinguisher around Captain Smith's head and steer or hope some fucker else does. So you don't think we've hit the iceberg yet?
|
|
|
Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 21:23:38 GMT
If the problem is on the bridge its no use flouncing around on deck wrap the nearest fire extinguisher around Captain Smith's head and steer or hope some fucker else does. So you don't think we've hit the iceberg yet? Of course we haven't but we're full steam ahead and heading straight for it.
|
|
|
Post by PotteringThrough on Dec 17, 2017 21:26:14 GMT
So you don't think we've hit the iceberg yet? Of course we haven't but we're full steam ahead and heading straight for it. Good, just checking because the way you go on at times you'd think we were already at the bottom of the ocean.
|
|
|
Post by darksideofthemoon on Dec 17, 2017 21:27:08 GMT
We're looking to run something for the West Brom issue of the fanzine next Saturday, regarding the future of Mark Hughes. We're looking for an idea of where the land lies on this one, so if you want to make a comment as well please feel free to do so. Feel strongly there should be another choice........replace him IF we have a quality candidate? This is a very important aspect IMO. But seriously, he HAS to go
|
|
|
Post by prestonstokie on Dec 17, 2017 21:28:47 GMT
Sadly and we are now in his fifth season, there is no evidence of shape style or pace in this team. Many comings and goings in recent years but precious little progress in the last two years. When was the last time we comprehensively defeated another Premiership team ? This season our odd goal wins could all have gone the other way, and we rarely ever control a game. The frustration of seeing players in unnatural positions and of players being paid huge wages and not being used. There have been good times with Mark Hughes and he has managed to attract some good quality signings, but now there has to be a change for all concerned.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 21:29:57 GMT
Would any other team in the premiership have waited so long? I think not! He should go.
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 21:36:17 GMT
How many Supporters do we have? and how many log on to this site? God forbid that some looks at this site from around the World and takes it as the Normal Stoke View.
TEST
|
|
|
Post by Davef on Dec 17, 2017 21:43:58 GMT
How many Supporters do we have? and how many log on to this site? God forbid that some looks at this site from around the World and takes it as the Normal Stoke View. TEST You do know what an opinion poll is?
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 21:46:11 GMT
He should have been sacked at the end of last season. We are in a situation all of our own making. We were showing this kind of form last season so I'm not sure why we've let it get this far.
|
|