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Post by pulismaskreplica on Dec 17, 2017 11:14:04 GMT
A team that doesn’t get twatted every week would be a start
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 17, 2017 11:19:12 GMT
Savage is a fucking idiot.
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Post by chigstoke on Dec 17, 2017 11:21:13 GMT
Robbie Savage knows fuck all He evidently hasn't been watching us, well newsflash Mr Savage, we're wank.
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Dec 17, 2017 11:22:50 GMT
He’s not even worth creatively insulting, he’s just a stupid coat-hanger nosed cunt.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 11:23:47 GMT
Look at the last two seasons results. Relegation form.
Look at the consistent tonkings. Relegation form.
Look at the £50m of money we didn't have, just wasted.
Get educated, instead of just firing off soundbites.
And stop rimming your 'mate'.
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 17, 2017 11:39:02 GMT
Savages managerial experience/honours reads as follows:
FUCK ALL
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Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 11:41:24 GMT
Look at the last two seasons results. Relegation form. Look at the consistent tonkings. Relegation form. Look at the £50m of money we didn't have, just wasted. Get educated, instead of just firing off soundbites. And stop rimming your 'mate'. £50M we didn't have my arse.
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Post by mattythestokie on Dec 17, 2017 11:44:58 GMT
The only thing I agree with is who are we going get in.
Because I'm struggling for names.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 11:50:56 GMT
Look at the last two seasons results. Relegation form. Look at the consistent tonkings. Relegation form. Look at the £50m of money we didn't have, just wasted. Get educated, instead of just firing off soundbites. And stop rimming your 'mate'. £50M we didn't have my arse. ?? It's become obvious that self-sufficiency is the order of the day. Given the current transfer climate, its £50m that we couldn't afford to waste. We did.
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Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 11:57:57 GMT
£50M we didn't have my arse. ?? It's become obvious that self-sufficiency is the order of the day. Given the current transfer climate, its £50m that we couldn't afford to waste. We did. I'm sure none of our competitors were actively looking to waste their transfer spend either but I bet virtually every one of them will end up having wasted a fair percentage of what they spent. Difference is all of them barring Swansea found more money to spend than Stoke. I wonder why we're both struggling?
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Post by BristolMick on Dec 17, 2017 12:15:04 GMT
The only thing I agree with is who are we going get in. Because I'm struggling for names. That is not our problem to think about Matty but it was the retort that Savage was throwing at Stokies who called in to 606 last night and everyone fell into his trap and allowed him to ridicule them in support of his mate. What we know as people who watch what goes on the pitch all game every game is that the players he has signed have been mainly woeful and lack DNA needed to be winners or even competitors when the chips are down. We have heard Hughes say countless times after embarrassing performances that we are looking for a reaction yet it happens over and over again and we get very little positive reaction. Mark Hughes may be a good bloke but he is not performing to the required standards, is repeating ineffective behaviour and so needs to be relieved of his duties. His replacement might be someone we've never heard off like the current managers of Wolves or Huddersfield had never been heard of by their fans or who thought Sean Dyche would turn out as he has? We don't need to concern ourselves with who would replace him anymore than we should concern ourselves with who the BBC should replace Savage with as a phone in host when they realise he is a divisive arrogant wanker that stifles reasoned debate and insults his audience. BM
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Post by liamo on Dec 17, 2017 12:18:02 GMT
Savage is just trying to keep his mates money coming in
If Stoke are doing well it's down to Hughes, if we do shit it's down to not backing Hughes
Could repeat the same shit for QPR word for word, they were right
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Post by hstoke on Dec 17, 2017 12:19:48 GMT
Savage is a knob
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Post by Dresden_scfc on Dec 17, 2017 12:20:45 GMT
He hasnt got a clue, going on about never been relegated would of at qpr if he wasn't sacked, least the host was defending us!
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 17, 2017 12:59:32 GMT
Savage is just trying to keep his mates money coming in If Stoke are doing well it's down to Hughes, if we do shit it's down to not backing Hughes Could repeat the same shit for QPR word for word, they were right Ditto the signings if they come good it's down to Hughes, if they turn to rat shit they weren't Hughes signings cake and eat it springs to mind.
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Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 13:04:43 GMT
Savage is just trying to keep his mates money coming in If Stoke are doing well it's down to Hughes, if we do shit it's down to not backing Hughes Could repeat the same shit for QPR word for word, they were right Ditto the signings if they come good it's down to Hughes, if they turn to rat shit they weren't Hughes signings cake and eat it springs to mind. No that's just conspiracy theory bollox they are all his signings. His hit to miss ratio is nowhere near as bad as you portray it. The bad one's are fucking awful but the reality is we don't spend enough money or sign enough 1st team ready players.
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Post by liamo on Dec 17, 2017 13:06:58 GMT
Ditto the signings if they come good it's down to Hughes, if they turn to rat shit they weren't Hughes signings cake and eat it springs to mind. No that's just conspiracy theory bollox they are all his signings. His hit to miss ratio is nowhere near as bad as you portray it. The bad one's are fucking awful but the reality is we don't spend enough money or sign enough 1st team ready players. We've got 3 first team ready players out on loan
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Post by crapslinger on Dec 17, 2017 13:09:09 GMT
No that's just conspiracy theory bollox they are all his signings. His hit to miss ratio is nowhere near as bad as you portray it. The bad one's are fucking awful but the reality is we don't spend enough money or sign enough 1st team ready players. We've got 3 first team ready players out on loan Another sitting on the bench, whilst Hughes plays Wimper from the off.
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Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 13:09:46 GMT
No that's just conspiracy theory bollox they are all his signings. His hit to miss ratio is nowhere near as bad as you portray it. The bad one's are fucking awful but the reality is we don't spend enough money or sign enough 1st team ready players. We've got 3 first team ready players out on loan Bojan Imbula & ? They have proven they are not the answer. Maybe their absence is making your heart grow fonder, you're not thinking rationally.
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Post by wuzza on Dec 17, 2017 13:12:11 GMT
Savage got one thing right on the radio last night - our zonal marking system is the root of all our defensive evils. Every player should have the responsibility of making sure one of the opposition don’t score and if they don’t they can be singled out accordingly. At the moment everyone just stands around looking at each other after the 5th or 6th hits the back of the net.
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Post by liamo on Dec 17, 2017 13:12:53 GMT
We've got 3 first team ready players out on loan Bojan Imbula & ? They have proven they are not the answer. Maybe their absence is making your heart grow fonder, you're not thinking rationally. We did poor with them in the team, we're doing even poorer now, maybe just maybe our issues don't stem from them? Maybe if we're still having issues with them on loan... something or someone else is to blame, someone who was in charge when they left and is still in charge now? The only thing we now know for sure is that Hughes isn't the answer, Bojan, Imbula and Muni may just thrive under a sane manager
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Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 13:17:46 GMT
Bojan Imbula & ? They have proven they are not the answer. Maybe their absence is making your heart grow fonder, you're not thinking rationally. We did poor with them in the team, we're doing even poorer now, maybe just maybe our issues don't stem from them? Maybe if we're still having issues with them on loan... something or someone else is to blame, someone who was in charge when they left and is still in charge now? The only thing we now know for sure is that Hughes isn't the answer, Bojan, Imbula and Muni may just thrive under a sane manager Yes and so may some of the players already in the squad, you'll get no argument from me about Hughes the man has become a spineless idiot.
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Post by Fred Merger on Dec 17, 2017 13:30:30 GMT
£50M we didn't have my arse. ?? It's become obvious that self-sufficiency is the order of the day. Given the current transfer climate, its £50m that we couldn't afford to waste. We did. But we didnt waste it. Hughes did!
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Post by mickmacc on Dec 17, 2017 13:30:31 GMT
Bojan Imbula & ? They have proven they are not the answer. Maybe their absence is making your heart grow fonder, you're not thinking rationally. We did poor with them in the team, we're doing even poorer now, maybe just maybe our issues don't stem from them? Maybe if we're still having issues with them on loan... something or someone else is to blame, someone who was in charge when they left and is still in charge now? The only thing we now know for sure is that Hughes isn't the answer, Bojan, Imbula and Muni may just thrive under a sane manager Disagree. They’re poor players now doing badly for even poorer teams.They just shouldn’t have been bought like Berahino and Wimmer and....
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Post by alster on Dec 17, 2017 13:38:51 GMT
We did poor with them in the team, we're doing even poorer now, maybe just maybe our issues don't stem from them? Maybe if we're still having issues with them on loan... something or someone else is to blame, someone who was in charge when they left and is still in charge now? The only thing we now know for sure is that Hughes isn't the answer, Bojan, Imbula and Muni may just thrive under a sane manager Disagree. They’re poor players now doing badly for even poorer teams.They just shouldn’t have been bought like Berahino and Wimmer and.... and everybody else we've ever bought who has failed fucking fantasy land.
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Post by liamo on Dec 17, 2017 13:39:37 GMT
We did poor with them in the team, we're doing even poorer now, maybe just maybe our issues don't stem from them? Maybe if we're still having issues with them on loan... something or someone else is to blame, someone who was in charge when they left and is still in charge now? The only thing we now know for sure is that Hughes isn't the answer, Bojan, Imbula and Muni may just thrive under a sane manager Disagree. They’re poor players now doing badly for even poorer teams.They just shouldn’t have been bought like Berahino and Wimmer and.... It's not as simple as that imo, good players can go through poor patches, not helped by being in and out the team, different tactics and formations I think they should all get at least another chance under a new manager, knowing what we know now WOuld you play Wimmer over Muni? No No.10 over Bojan? Fletcher over Imbula?
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Post by mickmacc on Dec 17, 2017 13:47:47 GMT
Frankly I wouldn’t have bought any of them in the first place and that’s the point.
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Post by liamo on Dec 17, 2017 13:54:06 GMT
Frankly I wouldn’t have bought any of them in the first place and that’s the point. But each of them has proven at some point that they can more than do it at this level, it's possible that they just haven't been managed properly If they still fail under new management then fair enough, they do deserve another chance though
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 14:10:47 GMT
What do we expect?
Well pardon me for stepping outside of my little box here, but one shot on target would be a start. We'll slowly build up to two, three etc then maybe score a goal?
In about 6 weeks maybe I'll expect 2 goals.
Baby steps Mr Savage. See, not too unrealistic am I?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2017 14:19:01 GMT
Disagree. They’re poor players now doing badly for even poorer teams.They just shouldn’t have been bought like Berahino and Wimmer and.... It's not as simple as that imo, good players can go through poor patches, not helped by being in and out the team, different tactics and formations I think they should all get at least another chance under a new manager, knowing what we know now WOuld you play Wimmer over Muni? No No.10 over Bojan? Fletcher over Imbula? I'd play me over Imbula and I'm a 45 year old waste of snapping.
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