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Post by lee1982 on Oct 21, 2017 16:14:22 GMT
He has assembled a side with no pace, no technique, no fight, that cant pass and cant move. We struggle to do basics majority of the time get somebody in now who can see the weaknesses and what we need and address it in january
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 16:15:03 GMT
Whilst I'm not arsed either way currently, it's not our job. It's the job of the club. All people want is for Stoke to play better. It's been a while, we've had different players and formations, so the topic goes on to the manager. Truth be told no one cares who the next manager is if the performances on the pitch improve. But to bite back and any replacement suggestions with "who's your name" and even worse simply ruling the names out due to personal preference is bad. I'm honesty open to any solid credible suggestions. You see how hard this "game" is when you actually play it? Easy to call for his head. But the challenge is the replacement. I'll play the game. Based on Coates liking British, you'd be looking at Dyche (he's doing better at a similar level club), Allardyce (supposedly retired but you never know), Moyes (looks thoroughly broken post Sunderland) and Coleman (never entirely convinced at club level). Otherwise you start looking at the likes of Pearson/Shakespeare. Maybe even Lee Johnson if he's feeling ambitious but I can't see it, he's having fun with Bristol. Rodgers is a pipedream that I can't see happening. Should he decide to stay domestic but branch out, it offers the chance for the likes of Jokanovic at Fulham to come back into the frame. Would he try to get a couple of years out of Ranieri? Would we tempt Rafa with stability? Who knows. Then there's the continent of course, with good managers that I'm not well equipped enough to suggest. But there's more to life than England so I'm sure there's viable options out there. I've no idea, I'm no recruiter or chairman. I'm just a fan. However I hope that the people whose job it is to find candidates know who they're looking for.
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Post by superheroantonius on Oct 21, 2017 16:15:12 GMT
Presumably the Bentley ,the Rolex and the Armani suit are on sale or return and he takes them back and gets a refund after the match
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Post by malteser68 on Oct 21, 2017 16:15:29 GMT
None of you can ever name a replacement. Big Sam and Coleman is all you will get from the brains trust unfortunately. H Why don't you tell us what is your solution then ? Continhe with the same old shit ? Last week's excuse for a 7 goal drubbing was that we were playing against City; what's the excuse was for this week ? We were playing against a team on 4 points who hadn't won a game away from home, had won just one game and were missing their two best strikers, and still we managed to lose and were complete rubbish ? What's the excuse which the clueless clown who has been kept in place by a clueless board going to be this week ?
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Oct 21, 2017 16:15:32 GMT
He should have gone in the summer. In terms of mid season replacements the obvious man if he's available is Allardyce. But would he be interested in yet another firefighting job at a medium sized club?
One thing's for sure. There are no footballing reasons left for retaining Hughes. The only reason is the lack of obvious replacements assuming Allardyce won't be interested.
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Post by Boothen on Oct 21, 2017 16:16:08 GMT
I fucking hope to God that Wales offer him a 'too good to refuse' offer.
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 21, 2017 16:16:44 GMT
No argument from me - appalling display
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Post by superheroantonius on Oct 21, 2017 16:18:33 GMT
He should have gone in the summer. How much longer will we have to endure these woeful performances, and excuses, excuses, excuses from the manager, game after game after game. The table doesn't lie, we are a poor side, with a poor manager, who seemingly has no idea of tactics, formation, team selection, substitutes, and transfer window signings. IMO HUGHES OUT NOW, before it's too late and we are relegated this season. The suggestion s to replace him in the summer were Marco Silva , Chris hughton , Rafa Frankly any of them would have done us better than hughes The suggestion s now would be David Wagner or Sean dysche Again , either would be welcome
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Oct 21, 2017 16:19:17 GMT
Hughes is getting a bit bitey in his post match interview. Still boring as fuck though
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Post by xnfourt on Oct 21, 2017 16:20:37 GMT
HUGHES HAS GOT TO GO...HE HAST GOT A CLUE...HE WILL TAKE US DOWN..COATES AND CO NEED GROW SOME BOLLOCKS...JUST LISTENING TO THE MAN ON RADIO STOKE..SUMS HIM UP...
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Post by milky on Oct 21, 2017 16:22:05 GMT
Maybe the best thing for both parties would be for Hughes to call it a day.
I think he needs the break..he looks and sounds a troubled and desperate man.
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Oct 21, 2017 16:23:02 GMT
Ok my 20 pence worth ( call it inflation )
Not a great pool of candidates out there I must admit without tempting someone away from an existing club.
So we either stick with a Manager who has clearly lost it and on current form will be taking us down. In fact if you factor in the last 38 games in a row we would be down I believe?
or we gamble on a lower league up and coming guy, shit or bust style and why not, or we go for a short term fix, get us out of trouble type old head, like Sam.
I am personally not one to pull the trigger willy nilly and last week did not budge my stance on this but losing at home to Bournemouth today has now confirmed Hughes is not the way forward and we need a fresh start. It happens in football these days he has had enough time now and we look like a relegation team.
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Post by superheroantonius on Oct 21, 2017 16:24:39 GMT
Football knowledge is the least of Hughes problems
He has been there , seen it , done it and bought the t shirt
But can he get 11 professional footballers to give their all from the first minute till the last ?
No
I don't care if David Wagner , Sean dysche etc haven't played at Hughes level . There teams are at it from the first minute till the last. Every match, rain or shine. And that's more important.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Oct 21, 2017 16:26:44 GMT
ANY other club would have sacked Hughes ages ago. We are completely lacking in ambition, as several pathetic transfer windows have proved.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 16:27:45 GMT
Can anyone explain why Sam Alladyce is top of a lot of wish lists........Jesus wept In a word Desperation.
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Post by RAF on Oct 21, 2017 16:28:20 GMT
Big Sam and Coleman is all you will get from the brains trust unfortunately. H Why don't you tell us what is your solution then ? Continhe with the same old shit ? Last week's excuse for a 7 goal drubbing was that we were playing against City; what's the excuse was for this week ? We were playing against a team on 4 points who hadn't won a game away from home, had won just one game and were missing their two best strikers, and still we managed to lose and were complete rubbish ? What's the excuse which the clueless clown who has been kept in place by a clueless board going to be this week ? Well neither of those two I've mentioned that is for sure. I also know the solution is not to hope we lose in the offchance Coates will sack Hughes as seen on the match thread by a couple of dicks. Things are clearly not right. Like I've said if we can get the right replacement in then great, get rid, but I can't think of anyone who would come here at the moment who would improve us. The players need a fucking rocket as well, they have been gutless. So lets have some sensible attainable manager suggestions? H
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Post by stokiejoe on Oct 21, 2017 16:31:59 GMT
There are a number of quality foreign managers Pellegrino tops the list for me
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 16:32:05 GMT
Wagner would not come here. Not in a month of Sundays.
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Post by pyrus on Oct 21, 2017 16:33:18 GMT
I am / have been behind Hughes, but you have to say something looks fundamentally broken. We are slow and ponderous, and we lose too often against poorer sets of players than we have. This is not just a bad day at the office, it is now a trend stretching back, on and off (increasingly on) for 18 months. Maybe Hughes has taken us as far as he can. Things have certainly stopped working. Things have to change. And the manager should be under consideration as one of the things that have stopped working and therefore, one of the things that may need to be changed.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 21, 2017 16:33:58 GMT
Why don't you tell us what is your solution then ? Continhe with the same old shit ? Last week's excuse for a 7 goal drubbing was that we were playing against City; what's the excuse was for this week ? We were playing against a team on 4 points who hadn't won a game away from home, had won just one game and were missing their two best strikers, and still we managed to lose and were complete rubbish ? What's the excuse which the clueless clown who has been kept in place by a clueless board going to be this week ? Well neither of those two I've mentioned that is for sure. I also know the solution is not to hope we lose in the offchance Coates will sack Hughes as seen on the match thread by a couple of dicks. Things are clearly not right. Like I've said if we can get the right replacement in then great, get rid, but I can't think of anyone who would come here at the moment who would improve us. The players need a fucking rocket as well, they have been gutless. So lets have some sensible attainable manager suggestions? H Me I'd hang on a couple of weeks and wait for Celtic to leave the champions league and go all out for Rodgers
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Post by kidcrewbob on Oct 21, 2017 16:34:18 GMT
So where's the Hughes out thread gone admin - not mine but bit Pravda isn't it?
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Post by blackpoolred on Oct 21, 2017 16:35:02 GMT
Allardyce - his heart or head isn't in it anymore. Failed at Palace. Coleman - different league since he left. Massive risk. Moyes - see Allardyce. Mancini - no chance. When was the last time a manager left a club to join a team in the same league without being sacked? Because no available managers will help us Hughes seems to have been a few games away from the sack a few times, but always manages to get some timely results - let's hope he can get us going again. The Coates family only do British managers so no worries over Mancini and quite frankly any British manager is a potential road traffic accident waiting to happen and probably the final nail in the coffin. Worrying times at the moment, but I still think this team can get to 40pts, but confidence is everything in football and the 7-2 drubbing came at the wrong time. We really could have done with getting something out of that game today, but have to try and get something in the next couple of weeks or we could slip into freefall. I would give Hughes until the end of November and if we are still in dire trouble then we have nothing to lose by trying somebody else. If we do decide to get a new manager we have to give him time to look at the squad/team before the next window.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Oct 21, 2017 16:35:23 GMT
Give the job to Cilla, couldn't do any fucking worse, Again with this drivel, who the fuck cares who we replace him with, seriously? What a ridiculous response. You don't care who would replace Hughes, seriously?
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Post by malteser68 on Oct 21, 2017 16:37:39 GMT
Why don't you tell us what is your solution then ? Continhe with the same old shit ? Last week's excuse for a 7 goal drubbing was that we were playing against City; what's the excuse was for this week ? We were playing against a team on 4 points who hadn't won a game away from home, had won just one game and were missing their two best strikers, and still we managed to lose and were complete rubbish ? What's the excuse which the clueless clown who has been kept in place by a clueless board going to be this week ? Well neither of those two I've mentioned that is for sure. I also know the solution is not to hope we lose in the offchance Coates will sack Hughes as seen on the match thread by a couple of dicks. Things are clearly not right. Like I've said if we can get the right replacement in then great, get rid, but I can't think of anyone who would come here at the moment who would improve us. The players need a fucking rocket as well, they have been gutless. So lets have some sensible attainable manager suggestions? H You have simply avoided answering the question: in the absence of the so-called 'sensible attainable manager suggestions' (something which should have been done in the summer, don't you think ?) what do you suggest we do ? Continue with the utter gash that is being dished week in, week out ? Is is this your solution ? Now AND this is where YOUR agenda comes in - whoever is suggested as a 'sensible attainable manager suggestion' will be show down by you as not the right choice let me throw a name into the hat (knowing full well that you will deride it, and without knowing whether he is actually available or not) - Quique Sanchez Flores
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Post by superheroantonius on Oct 21, 2017 16:37:48 GMT
I think Hughes Achilles heel, is he doesn't know how to insist on standards of behavior from players
There was a big article on pochettino in last weeks mail on Sunday .Delle Alli said he first met him after he had signed and he told him ...everyone here gives everything , every game , I don't want to hear any excuses about being tired or stuff .
I am old ,so it reminded of what Keegan said when he signed for Liverpool . He said shankly told him... if I was a road sweeper ,I would have the cleanest street in the town , do you understand what I am saying?
I reckon pochettino is doing what shankly did and insisting on standards and behaviour.
Unfortunately I don't think Hughes knows how to do that .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 16:38:28 GMT
Glenn Hoddle is who I'd go for and I don't give a monkeys how many voodoo dolls or spirit healers he uses they have to be better than our injury team.
Kevin Keegan is available for anyone brave enough.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 16:38:50 GMT
So where's the Hughes out thread gone admin - not mine but bit Pravda isn't it? It's gone hasn't it. Obviously we're not allowed to have any threads questioning the manager's position. Come on Admin there is genuine concern amongst the supporters and we have a right to voice our opinions on such a thread.
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Post by madmickthe3rd on Oct 21, 2017 16:41:15 GMT
Of course you do know what all this is slowly but surely lining up for don't you.
Big Drum roll
The return of !!
Someone had to say it god help us!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2017 16:43:08 GMT
Whilst I'm not arsed either way currently, it's not our job. It's the job of the club. All people want is for Stoke to play better. It's been a while, we've had different players and formations, so the topic goes on to the manager. Truth be told no one cares who the next manager is if the performances on the pitch improve. But to bite back and any replacement suggestions with "who's your name" and even worse simply ruling the names out due to personal preference is bad. I'm honesty open to any solid credible suggestions. You see how hard this "game" is when you actually play it? Easy to call for his head. But the challenge is the replacement. Nobody cares that you're open to credible suggestions, nobody here needs to answer your inane question. The fact is we aren't paid to play the "game" as you call it so your post is irrelevant. Those who are paid should be if doing their job properly, considering all avenues. Stoke is a multi-million pound business with resources and contacts all over the world, they should be looking who is potentially available etc... in case it's needed. So yeah, pointless question, when trying to defend something without an actual defence.
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Post by dutchstokie on Oct 21, 2017 16:43:22 GMT
Why don't you tell us what is your solution then ? Continhe with the same old shit ? Last week's excuse for a 7 goal drubbing was that we were playing against City; what's the excuse was for this week ? We were playing against a team on 4 points who hadn't won a game away from home, had won just one game and were missing their two best strikers, and still we managed to lose and were complete rubbish ? What's the excuse which the clueless clown who has been kept in place by a clueless board going to be this week ? Well neither of those two I've mentioned that is for sure. I also know the solution is not to hope we lose in the offchance Coates will sack Hughes as seen on the match thread by a couple of dicks. Things are clearly not right. Like I've said if we can get the right replacement in then great, get rid, but I can't think of anyone who would come here at the moment who would improve us. The players need a fucking rocket as well, they have been gutless. So lets have some sensible attainable manager suggestions? H You have made an important remark there regarding the players.....I honestly can say that’s Ive not seen a group of players that just don’t seem interested in a long long time. Regardless of who the manager is, that for me is just unforgivable. Gutless hits the nail on the head
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