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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2024 9:53:55 GMT
Ah, good for them. No major political party in the UK are going to go after big businesses. It just doesn’t seem like a vote winner.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 17, 2024 10:14:45 GMT
He's behaving like he's already in opposition, Labour are going to love this ...
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Post by essexstokey on May 17, 2024 13:04:54 GMT
He's behaving like he's already in opposition, Labour are going to love this ... Yep labour will have ro put up taxes to cover the uncoated cuts the tories have done
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Post by Gawa on May 17, 2024 15:26:55 GMT
He's behaving like he's already in opposition, Labour are going to love this ... Yep labour will have ro put up taxes to cover the uncoated cuts the tories have done Hopefully through a wealth tax, closing loopholes for avoidance or taxing the wealthiest.
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Post by henry on May 17, 2024 16:22:01 GMT
Yep labour will have ro put up taxes to cover the uncoated cuts the tories have done Hopefully through a wealth tax, closing loopholes for avoidance or taxing the wealthiest. They won’t though. They will hit paye, pensions, isa’s And anything else that’s easy to grab hold of.
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Post by Gawa on May 17, 2024 16:33:03 GMT
One advantage of the tories over Labour this election is the fact that I like to be wined and dined before I get fucked. At least sunak did that with his eat out to help out.
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Post by wannabee on May 17, 2024 16:42:30 GMT
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Post by henry on May 17, 2024 17:12:39 GMT
So Labour won’t have their “donors and friends “ when they get power 😂
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on May 17, 2024 17:33:31 GMT
So Labour won’t have their “donors and friends “ when they get power 😂 They’ve earnt their opportunity but let’s not kid ourselves that corruption will end with a new government. There’s plenty of cases where politicians from all parties have been dishonest and corrupt sadly it’s a human trait not a party one. That said the Tories have really mastered it but I’m sure that the press will always be more interested in the new government than the new opposition.
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Post by wannabee on May 17, 2024 17:35:15 GMT
So Labour won’t have their “donors and friends “ when they get power 😂 Well they never made much of a effort to recover the money they doled out to fraudsters during COVID I suppose they didn't want to uncover more scandals like Lady Bra and the VIP Lane which led to the Feeding Trough
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2024 19:56:16 GMT
Hopefully through a wealth tax, closing loopholes for avoidance or taxing the wealthiest. They won’t though. They will hit paye, pensions, isa’s And anything else that’s easy to grab hold of. Agreed. Any “wealth tax” will just be levied on the middle class to pay for those below while those above sit back and relax. High tax rates are a lazy way to generate revenue. God forbid the govt finds ways to ramp up the GDP in the country to pay for more services rather than just take the easy option.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on May 17, 2024 19:59:20 GMT
So Labour won’t have their “donors and friends “ when they get power 😂 The Tories have taken UK politics to a new low. They should go nowhere near power for a generation.
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Post by iancransonsknees on May 17, 2024 20:17:26 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 17, 2024 20:55:50 GMT
Pure coincidence.
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Post by essexstokey on May 17, 2024 22:02:28 GMT
Jcb also pay David Davies and other tories huge construction fees
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Post by henry on May 17, 2024 23:01:42 GMT
So Labour won’t have their “donors and friends “ when they get power 😂 Well they never made much of a effort to recover the money they doled out to fraudsters during COVID I suppose they didn't want to uncover more scandals like Lady Bra and the VIP Lane which led to the Feeding Trough Government is irrelevant.
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Post by wannabee on May 17, 2024 23:37:27 GMT
Well they never made much of a effort to recover the money they doled out to fraudsters during COVID I suppose they didn't want to uncover more scandals like Lady Bra and the VIP Lane which led to the Feeding Trough Government is irrelevant. Are you an Anarchist?
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Post by henry on May 18, 2024 6:48:16 GMT
Government is irrelevant. Are you an Anarchist? No, what makes you think that?
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Post by oggyoggy on May 18, 2024 7:24:29 GMT
Well they never made much of a effort to recover the money they doled out to fraudsters during COVID I suppose they didn't want to uncover more scandals like Lady Bra and the VIP Lane which led to the Feeding Trough Government is irrelevant. Don’t you use the nhs, schools, roads etc. who would you call if there was a fire in your house if not the fire brigade? What about if you were victim of a robbery or a loved one got run over? Do you not pay tax? Who sets the rates you pay? Even if you don’t live in the UK, our government is relevant to you if you have a UK passport or wish to ever come back to the UK to visit.
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Post by essexstokey on May 18, 2024 8:18:28 GMT
Just have this image in my head every time they say on the news of parasites Inn the water of tory mps swimming and jumping from a sinking ship I wonder why 😁😁😁
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Post by henry on May 18, 2024 9:38:38 GMT
Government is irrelevant. Don’t you use the nhs, schools, roads etc. who would you call if there was a fire in your house if not the fire brigade? What about if you were victim of a robbery or a loved one got run over? Do you not pay tax? Who sets the rates you pay? Even if you don’t live in the UK, our government is relevant to you if you have a UK passport or wish to ever come back to the UK to visit. During the scamdemic it would have made no difference. My point is both parties are a sack of shit.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 18, 2024 9:52:16 GMT
Don’t you use the nhs, schools, roads etc. who would you call if there was a fire in your house if not the fire brigade? What about if you were victim of a robbery or a loved one got run over? Do you not pay tax? Who sets the rates you pay? Even if you don’t live in the UK, our government is relevant to you if you have a UK passport or wish to ever come back to the UK to visit. During the scamdemic it would have made no difference. My point is both parties are a sack of shit. Labour hasn’t been in power for 15 years. I don’t think it is fair to say they are shit in power. In other countries they recovered from the economic damage far faster. Many nations had a much healthier health system. Government makes huge differences to everyone’s life. Imagine living in Russia or North Korea?
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Post by henry on May 18, 2024 10:05:49 GMT
During the scamdemic it would have made no difference. My point is both parties are a sack of shit. Labour hasn’t been in power for 15 years. I don’t think it is fair to say they are shit in power. In other countries they recovered from the economic damage far faster. Many nations had a much healthier health system. Government makes huge differences to everyone’s life. Imagine living in Russia or North Korea? Enjoy voting Labour and the 5 years of carnage they will unleash on working people.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on May 18, 2024 10:15:45 GMT
Labour hasn’t been in power for 15 years. I don’t think it is fair to say they are shit in power. In other countries they recovered from the economic damage far faster. Many nations had a much healthier health system. Government makes huge differences to everyone’s life. Imagine living in Russia or North Korea? Enjoy voting Labour and the 5 years of carnage they will unleash on working people. Unlike the Tories who have fucked the country and working people over for 14 years , while rewarding their donors.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 18, 2024 10:30:43 GMT
Labour hasn’t been in power for 15 years. I don’t think it is fair to say they are shit in power. In other countries they recovered from the economic damage far faster. Many nations had a much healthier health system. Government makes huge differences to everyone’s life. Imagine living in Russia or North Korea? Enjoy voting Labour and the 5 years of carnage they will unleash on working people. But i thought governments were irrelevant? It is what you said above. If irrelevant, how can they unleash carnage? How would you describe the last 14 years? Better or worse than “carnage” for working people? Anyone saying “labour are the same as Conservatives” needs to educate themselves.
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Post by wannabee on May 18, 2024 10:50:14 GMT
No, what makes you think that? It sounded like you were going off grid and weren't going to be affected by how competently Public Services were going to be managed.
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Post by Paul Spencer on May 18, 2024 11:20:58 GMT
Labour hasn’t been in power for 15 years. I don’t think it is fair to say they are shit in power. In other countries they recovered from the economic damage far faster. Many nations had a much healthier health system. Government makes huge differences to everyone’s life. Imagine living in Russia or North Korea? Enjoy voting Labour and the 5 years of carnage they will unleash on working people. I'm no fan of Starmer's shadow cabinet Henry but come on, I'm not sure how old you are but the last Labour government only ended fourteen years ago and when talking about what they did for working people, well they ... Introduced the Winter Fuel Allowance Had the shortest NHS waiting times in history Got crime down by a third Introduced the Disability Discrimination Act Delivered peace in Northern Ireland Took 500,000 children out of poverty Took child benefit to record levels Introduced the minimum wage amongst many, many other things. The Labour Party aren't going to come in with the deliberate intention to rob the working man blind and attempt to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. No doubt they're going to get a shit tonne of stuff wrong but they're at least going to ATTEMPT to watch the working man's back.
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Post by wannabee on May 18, 2024 11:59:43 GMT
Enjoy voting Labour and the 5 years of carnage they will unleash on working people. I'm no fan of Starmer's shadow cabinet Henry but come on, I'm not sure how old you are but the last Labour government only ended fourteen years ago and when talking about what they did for working people, well they ... Introduced the Winter Fuel Allowance Had the shortest NHS waiting times in history Got crime down by a third Introduced the Disability Discrimination Act Delivered peace in Northern Ireland Took 500,000 children out of poverty Took child benefit to record levels Introduced the minimum wage amongst many, many other things. The Labour Party aren't going to come in with the deliberate intention to rob the working man blind and attempt to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. No doubt they're going to get a shit tonne of stuff wrong but they're at least going to ATTEMPT to watch the working man's back. Pretty much how I see it, my preference would be for Starmer to be more radical on Social Issues Internationally and Domestically but with regard to setting the priorities for the Domestic Economy there is no contest. I'm not happy that lifelong Labour People like Jeremy Corbyn and Diane Abbott are outside the Party while Natalie Elphick is within it shows a lack of confidence in his ability to manage different wings of the Party. Perhaps he will gain more confidence if Labour is elected which would be remarkable in itself considering Labour had its worst election since the 1930s just 5 years ago. Of course that was the Brexit Election and people were tired of the division and bickering and Voted to "Get Brexit Done" after all, things were shit, how much worse could it get.... that aged well.
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Post by wannabee on May 18, 2024 14:40:08 GMT
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Post by henry on May 18, 2024 16:30:53 GMT
Enjoy voting Labour and the 5 years of carnage they will unleash on working people. I'm no fan of Starmer's shadow cabinet Henry but come on, I'm not sure how old you are but the last Labour government only ended fourteen years ago and when talking about what they did for working people, well they ... Introduced the Winter Fuel Allowance Had the shortest NHS waiting times in history Got crime down by a third Introduced the Disability Discrimination Act Delivered peace in Northern Ireland Took 500,000 children out of poverty Took child benefit to record levels Introduced the minimum wage amongst many, many other things. The Labour Party aren't going to come in with the deliberate intention to rob the working man blind and attempt to make the rich richer and the poor poorer. No doubt they're going to get a shit tonne of stuff wrong but they're at least going to ATTEMPT to watch the working man's back. Taking 500,000 kids out poverty by giving them a few quid was nothing other than a number crunching exercise.
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