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Post by southstanddan on Oct 3, 2020 10:51:23 GMT
They should not only reinstate the £20 but also give them an extra £1000 a week. Why not? Doesn’t bother me 1 bit that a vast majority of them can go on holiday when I can’t afford it, have new iPhones and big fancy TVs. They should also be paid an increasing bonus when they start to fire out child number 4, 5, 6 etc.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 3, 2020 10:58:01 GMT
They should not only reinstate the £20 but also give them an extra £1000 a week. Why not? Doesn’t bother me 1 bit that a vast majority of them can go on holiday when I can’t afford it, have new iPhones and big fancy TVs. They should also be paid an increasing bonus when they start to fire out child number 4, 5, 6 etc. Yep, thats the red wall mentality. They've worked a right number these Tories haven't they. Poor people blaming poorer people whilst the rich get richer and laugh at them. Gobble gobble.
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Post by southstanddan on Oct 3, 2020 11:02:40 GMT
They should not only reinstate the £20 but also give them an extra £1000 a week. Why not? Doesn’t bother me 1 bit that a vast majority of them can go on holiday when I can’t afford it, have new iPhones and big fancy TVs. They should also be paid an increasing bonus when they start to fire out child number 4, 5, 6 etc. Yep, thats the red wall mentality. They've worked a right number these Tories haven't they. Poor people blaming poorer people whilst the rich get richer and laugh at them. Gobble gobble. Then go round their houses and dish out the tenners if you want to contribute more? Or should it come from the money tree?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 3, 2020 11:05:55 GMT
Yep, thats the red wall mentality. They've worked a right number these Tories haven't they. Poor people blaming poorer people whilst the rich get richer and laugh at them. Gobble gobble. Then go round their houses and dish out the tenners if you want to contribute more? Or should it come from the money tree? I would attempt to explain to you that by far and away the bulk of the benefits budget goes to those in employment but it would probably be lost on you. You believe they're scrounging scum and that's that.
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Post by iglugluk on Oct 3, 2020 11:12:15 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 3, 2020 11:37:30 GMT
His job is done he was put in position to see off any chance of Corbyn and his Marxist mob getting into power, a job he accomplished with aplomb finally killing off any real socialist hopes in the UK forever, he will be replaced probably in March 2021 by a more ruthless right wing PM.
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Post by lordb on Oct 3, 2020 11:56:55 GMT
His job is done he was put in position to see off any chance of Corbyn and his Marxist mob getting into power, a job he accomplished with aplomb finally killing off any real socialist hopes in the UK forever, he will be replaced probably in March 2021 by a more ruthless right wing PM. Why then?
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 3, 2020 12:41:19 GMT
Yep, thats the red wall mentality. They've worked a right number these Tories haven't they. Poor people blaming poorer people whilst the rich get richer and laugh at them. Gobble gobble. Then go round their houses and dish out the tenners if you want to contribute more? Or should it come from the money tree? Well the Tories are certainly happy to use the magic money tree first with bribes to the DUP then to the lucrative contracts they gave to there mates and senators to the Tory party this is the most immoral and corrupt government we have ever seen!!!
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Post by thevoid on Oct 3, 2020 16:24:32 GMT
Then go round their houses and dish out the tenners if you want to contribute more? Or should it come from the money tree? Well the Tories are certainly happy to use the magic money tree first with bribes to the DUP then to the lucrative contracts they gave to there mates and senators to the Tory party this is the most immoral and corrupt government we have ever seen!!! We don't have senators in the UK 😊
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 4, 2020 8:40:46 GMT
This is quite the turnaround from being 26% behind when first elected to the leadership of the Labour Party. When you consider that people generally fall in behind their leaders at times of war and other national crises, it just goes to show how much of a clusterfuck the 'management' of coronavirus has been by the current bunch of incompetents for that level of support to have all but vanished in six months. Compare and contrast with the situation in Scotland where Sturgeon's handling has been much more sure-footed and her's and the SNP's ratings have held firm.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 4, 2020 9:29:02 GMT
Then go round their houses and dish out the tenners if you want to contribute more? Or should it come from the money tree? Well the Tories are certainly happy to use the magic money tree first with bribes to the DUP then to the lucrative contracts they gave to there mates and senators to the Tory party this is the most immoral and corrupt government we have ever seen!!! senators this is a pisser.
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Post by southstanddan on Oct 4, 2020 9:39:02 GMT
Then go round their houses and dish out the tenners if you want to contribute more? Or should it come from the money tree? Well the Tories are certainly happy to use the magic money tree first with bribes to the DUP then to the lucrative contracts they gave to there mates and senators to the Tory party this is the most immoral and corrupt government we have ever seen!!! Bribes?? I thought it was a Tory tactic to smear?
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Post by elystokie on Oct 4, 2020 11:34:59 GMT
This is quite the turnaround from being 26% behind when first elected to the leadership of the Labour Party. When you consider that people generally fall in behind their leaders at times of war and other national crises, it just goes to show how much of a clusterfuck the 'management' of coronavirus has been by the current bunch of incompetents for that level of support to have all but vanished in six months. Compare and contrast with the situation in Scotland where Sturgeon's handling has been much more sure-footed and her's and the SNP's ratings have held firm. Seems there's quite a number that previously supported him wholeheartedly are now backtracking and pretending it was the plan all along to fuck the bluffer off after Brexit. I haven't seen that much of parliament but what I've seen when the two leaders are having "a debate" is akin to a sulky teenager arguing with his headmaster. It's embarrassing.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 4, 2020 11:38:29 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 4, 2020 17:45:24 GMT
Political donations should be made illegal, from all sides of the spectrum. It's too easy to buy influence and the likelihood of corruption is always there. Imagine if you were allowed to make donations to the Exam Board overseeing your kids' qualifications!
It's so obviously not all above board, the Jenrick planning scandal being the most obvious recent abuse of power. It's just like advertising - if it wasn't effective, no-one would waste their time doing it.
Any party receiving above, say, 5% of the vote in a general election should be funded equally from public money. No more no less.
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 5, 2020 14:13:58 GMT
Political donations should be made illegal, from all sides of the spectrum. It's too easy to buy influence and the likelihood of corruption is always there. Imagine if you were allowed to make donations to the Exam Board overseeing your kids' qualifications! It's so obviously not all above board, the Jenrick planning scandal being the most obvious recent abuse of power. It's just like advertising - if it wasn't effective, no-one would waste their time doing it. Any party receiving above, say, 5% of the vote in a general election should be funded equally from public money. No more no less. Unfortunately there would be ways round this ie people or individuals and organisations paying for advertising etc and just copying what the parties send out bit like the vote leave campaigns did and there is always foreign interference
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 5, 2020 17:41:16 GMT
Political donations should be made illegal, from all sides of the spectrum. It's too easy to buy influence and the likelihood of corruption is always there. Imagine if you were allowed to make donations to the Exam Board overseeing your kids' qualifications! It's so obviously not all above board, the Jenrick planning scandal being the most obvious recent abuse of power. It's just like advertising - if it wasn't effective, no-one would waste their time doing it. Any party receiving above, say, 5% of the vote in a general election should be funded equally from public money. No more no less. Unfortunately there would be ways round this ie people or individuals and organisations paying for advertising etc and just copying what the parties send out bit like the vote leave campaigns did and there is always foreign interference I'm sure you're right, just like there are ways around FFP in football, selling your stadium naming rights for several hundred million for example! But it might weed out some of the more blatant abuses and, at the very least, I think it'd make it more obvious those who are bending the rules.
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 5, 2020 18:16:51 GMT
Political donations should be made illegal, from all sides of the spectrum. It's too easy to buy influence and the likelihood of corruption is always there. Imagine if you were allowed to make donations to the Exam Board overseeing your kids' qualifications! It's so obviously not all above board, the Jenrick planning scandal being the most obvious recent abuse of power. It's just like advertising - if it wasn't effective, no-one would waste their time doing it. Any party receiving above, say, 5% of the vote in a general election should be funded equally from public money. No more no less. Including Trade Unions ?
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 5, 2020 20:25:39 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 5, 2020 20:27:16 GMT
Political donations should be made illegal, from all sides of the spectrum. It's too easy to buy influence and the likelihood of corruption is always there. Imagine if you were allowed to make donations to the Exam Board overseeing your kids' qualifications! It's so obviously not all above board, the Jenrick planning scandal being the most obvious recent abuse of power. It's just like advertising - if it wasn't effective, no-one would waste their time doing it. Any party receiving above, say, 5% of the vote in a general election should be funded equally from public money. No more no less. Including Trade Unions ? The Labour Party was created by the Trade Unions Nazi Boy.
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 5, 2020 20:48:23 GMT
Unfortunately there would be ways round this ie people or individuals and organisations paying for advertising etc and just copying what the parties send out bit like the vote leave campaigns did and there is always foreign interference I'm sure you're right, just like there are ways around FFP in football, selling your stadium naming rights for several hundred million for example! But it might weed out some of the more blatant abuses and, at the very least, I think it'd make it more obvious those who are bending the rules. Should be a spending limit like now but tougher sanctions if you exceed them eg for every x amount over you lose 1 mp starting from your most secure seat to the party who finished 2nd that's national cost but at local level the mp loses seat to second place would soon stop the cheating
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 6, 2020 7:02:44 GMT
I'm sure you're right, just like there are ways around FFP in football, selling your stadium naming rights for several hundred million for example! But it might weed out some of the more blatant abuses and, at the very least, I think it'd make it more obvious those who are bending the rules. Should be a spending limit like now but tougher sanctions if you exceed them eg for every x amount over you lose 1 mp starting from your most secure seat to the party who finished 2nd that's national cost but at local level the mp loses seat to second place would soon stop the cheating So you would advocate say London turning tory despite what the electorate voted For Just because labour spent to much Hardly fair on the voters
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Post by thevoid on Oct 6, 2020 9:58:26 GMT
I'm sure you're right, just like there are ways around FFP in football, selling your stadium naming rights for several hundred million for example! But it might weed out some of the more blatant abuses and, at the very least, I think it'd make it more obvious those who are bending the rules. Should be a spending limit like now but tougher sanctions if you exceed them eg for every x amount over you lose 1 mp starting from your most secure seat to the party who finished 2nd that's national cost but at local level the mp loses seat to second place would soon stop the cheating Reasonable post there Joey, where did you Copy & Paste it from? 😆
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 6, 2020 13:42:16 GMT
Should be a spending limit like now but tougher sanctions if you exceed them eg for every x amount over you lose 1 mp starting from your most secure seat to the party who finished 2nd that's national cost but at local level the mp loses seat to second place would soon stop the cheating So you would advocate say London turning tory despite what the electorate voted For Just because labour spent to much Hardly fair on the voters Yet again you are acting like an idiot and you know it there are rules governing spending on elections and it's not labour that has been found in breach of these rules time and time again from secret call centres to fabricating hotel expense to down right spending to much and fiddling the expenses. The election commission can only fine a part give them real power to disqualify individuals in constituency and if it's the national party get there candidates ruled null and void in there safest seats for each x thousands they go over you would then put and end to the buying of elections
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 6, 2020 13:45:03 GMT
Should be a spending limit like now but tougher sanctions if you exceed them eg for every x amount over you lose 1 mp starting from your most secure seat to the party who finished 2nd that's national cost but at local level the mp loses seat to second place would soon stop the cheating Reasonable post there Joey, where did you Copy & Paste it from? 😆 Not copied from anywhere just showing some intelligence something you seem to be lacking in !!
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 6, 2020 13:47:03 GMT
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Post by vokeswagen on Oct 6, 2020 13:56:02 GMT
Political donations should be made illegal, from all sides of the spectrum. It's too easy to buy influence and the likelihood of corruption is always there. Imagine if you were allowed to make donations to the Exam Board overseeing your kids' qualifications! It's so obviously not all above board, the Jenrick planning scandal being the most obvious recent abuse of power. It's just like advertising - if it wasn't effective, no-one would waste their time doing it. Any party receiving above, say, 5% of the vote in a general election should be funded equally from public money. No more no less. Including Trade Unions ? Are there many trade unions in the Canary Islands fella? Assuming they’re mostly based around tourism and agriculture?
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Post by thevoid on Oct 6, 2020 14:27:05 GMT
Reasonable post there Joey, where did you Copy & Paste it from? 😆 Not copied from anywhere just showing some intelligence something you seem to be lacking in !! Get you- a legible paragraph at last and you're Will Self all of a sudden. More like The Oatcake's version of that room full of chimpanzees producing Shakespeare 😆
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 6, 2020 14:44:16 GMT
Political flip-flopping and opportunism from the Bluffer, who'd have thought it Something I can actually get behind him about for once, however. Green energy for the entirety of the UK's homes by 2030 would be a fantastic achievement. Whether that means in their entirety in 2030 or by measuring the current rate of 2020 domestic consumption and ensuring that the same amount is provided by green energy in 2030 while overall consumption has risen and some of it is still provided by fossil fuels, is a moot point...
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Post by elystokie on Oct 6, 2020 15:01:45 GMT
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