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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 11, 2020 13:46:13 GMT
So glad you posted this twaddle. The reality is that this was a 6th Form politics manoeuvre by a totally useless opposition. Labour used their Opposition Day motion to create a totally irrelevant vote. They were calling for an independent inquiry into the Governments handling of the flood crisis. Not necessary as the House of Commons Environment Food and Rural Affairs Select Committee has already begun their own inquiry. That committee of 11 contains 4 Labour MP's and 1 from SNP. Knowing that the Conservative majority would vote this daft motion down Labour added the paragraph about thanking the emergency services. The Corbynite sheep like you and the FBU then froth all over social media about Conservatives being ungrateful. It's kind of funny if it wasn't so pitiful.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 13:54:41 GMT
So glad you posted this twaddle. The reality is that this was a 6th Form politics manoeuvre by a totally useless opposition. Labour used their Opposition Day motion to create a totally irrelevant vote. They were calling for an independent inquiry into the Governments handling of the flood crisis. Not necessary as the House of Commons Environment Food and Rural Affairs Select Committee has already begun their own inquiry. That committee of 11 contains 4 Labour MP's and 1 from SNP. Knowing that the Conservative majority would vote this daft motion down Labour added the paragraph about thanking the emergency services. The Corbynite sheep like you and the FBU then froth all over social media about Conservatives being ungrateful. It's kind of funny if it wasn't so pitiful. Funnier than believing in aliens roger? Surely not that funny..........
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 11, 2020 13:59:38 GMT
So glad you posted this twaddle. The reality is that this was a 6th Form politics manoeuvre by a totally useless opposition. Labour used their Opposition Day motion to create a totally irrelevant vote. They were calling for an independent inquiry into the Governments handling of the flood crisis. Not necessary as the House of Commons Environment Food and Rural Affairs Select Committee has already begun their own inquiry. That committee of 11 contains 4 Labour MP's and 1 from SNP. Knowing that the Conservative majority would vote this daft motion down Labour added the paragraph about thanking the emergency services. The Corbynite sheep like you and the FBU then froth all over social media about Conservatives being ungrateful. It's kind of funny if it wasn't so pitiful. Funnier than believing in aliens roger? Surely not that funny.......... Do a little research and you'll find that the select committee is already inquiring. The Conservatives just saved the country a lot of tax payers hard earned by voting this down.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 14:02:02 GMT
Funnier than believing in aliens roger? Surely not that funny.......... Do a little research and you'll find that the select committee is already inquiring. The Conservatives just saved the country a lot of tax payers hard earned by voting this down. So not funnier than believing in aliens? Thanks for clarifying roger......
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 11, 2020 14:03:06 GMT
Austerity is well and truly over. Couldnt resist this last post Stoke-On-Trent have had to cut 8.3 MILLION POUNDS from the yearly budget ,sure is over. You literally have no joy in your life stop living in the past.
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Post by Eggybread on Mar 11, 2020 14:13:37 GMT
Couldnt resist this last post Stoke-On-Trent have had to cut 8.3 MILLION POUNDS from the yearly budget ,sure is over. You literally have no joy in your life stop living in the past. It was passed last week.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 11, 2020 14:19:03 GMT
You literally have no joy in your life stop living in the past. It was passed last week. Which may change given today's budget you have nothing at all to contribute of a positive note. Try smiling you miserable toad as a business man todays budget is good for you smile for a change.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 11, 2020 14:21:03 GMT
Couldnt resist this last post Stoke-On-Trent have had to cut 8.3 MILLION POUNDS from the yearly budget ,sure is over. You literally have no joy in your life stop living in the past. Jack Brereton pushed S-o-T in a question to Boris in PMQ's. Boris replied saying Stoke-on-Trent would be the crucible for future growth in the UK. Rishi Sunak name checked Stoke in his budget speech.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 11, 2020 14:26:03 GMT
You literally have no joy in your life stop living in the past. Jack Brereton pushed S-o-T in a question to Boris in PMQ's. Boris replied saying Stoke-on-Trent would be the crucible for future growth in the UK. Rishi Sunak name checked Stoke in his budget speech. I know some people just like to moan regardless of what side your one this budget has massive spending and it's nothing but good as far as I can see.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 11, 2020 14:30:08 GMT
You literally have no joy in your life stop living in the past. Jack Brereton pushed S-o-T in a question to Boris in PMQ's. Boris replied saying Stoke-on-Trent would be the crucible for future growth in the UK. Rishi Sunak name checked Stoke in his budget speech. What exactly did he say about Stoke in the budget?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 14:31:50 GMT
You literally have no joy in your life stop living in the past. Jack Brereton pushed S-o-T in a question to Boris in PMQ's. Boris replied saying Stoke-on-Trent would be the crucible for future growth in the UK.Rishi Sunak name checked Stoke in his budget speech.
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Post by foster on Mar 11, 2020 14:43:24 GMT
You literally have no joy in your life stop living in the past. Jack Brereton pushed S-o-T in a question to Boris in PMQ's. Boris replied saying Stoke-on-Trent would be the crucible for future growth in the UK. Rishi Sunak name checked Stoke in his budget speech. Actions speak louder than words, especially the words of politicians. The only thing of note regarding budget are the cuts in SOT that are highlighted here. What is the feeling on here regarding that 8m of budget cuts in Stoke? Why are Boris supporters pretending that these cuts aren't happening and deflecting onto empty words? It doesn't matter if you voted leave or remain. The fact is that these cuts are real and everyone who lives in SOT should be pissed off about them.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 11, 2020 14:52:05 GMT
Jack Brereton pushed S-o-T in a question to Boris in PMQ's. Boris replied saying Stoke-on-Trent would be the crucible for future growth in the UK. Rishi Sunak name checked Stoke in his budget speech. Actions speak louder than words, especially the words of politicians. The only thing of note regarding budget are the cuts in SOT that are highlighted here. What is the feeling on here regarding that 8m of budget cuts in Stoke? Why are Boris supporters pretending that these cuts aren't happening and deflecting onto empty words? It doesn't matter if you voted leave or remain. The fact is that these cuts are real and everyone who lives in SOT should be pissed off about them. Nobody is on about those cuts( it has it's own thread) this was about the budget which looks to be a positive one but still for some it's only negative, it really is like pissing in the wind to get some to have the slightest positive comment.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 11, 2020 14:54:28 GMT
Jack Brereton pushed S-o-T in a question to Boris in PMQ's. Boris replied saying Stoke-on-Trent would be the crucible for future growth in the UK. Rishi Sunak name checked Stoke in his budget speech. What exactly did he say about Stoke in the budget? Transforming Cities fund which will invest over £1bn in local transport infrastructure in 12 areas "including Stoke, Preston, Derby, Nottingham and Southampton"
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 11, 2020 14:57:31 GMT
Jack Brereton pushed S-o-T in a question to Boris in PMQ's. Boris replied saying Stoke-on-Trent would be the crucible for future growth in the UK.Rishi Sunak name checked Stoke in his budget speech. That's the spirit. You make me laugh. If there was no £1bn Cities fund for places like Stoke and Derby it would be your first frothing post about the Conservatives ignoring Northern voters.
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Post by foster on Mar 11, 2020 15:11:36 GMT
Actions speak louder than words, especially the words of politicians. The only thing of note regarding budget are the cuts in SOT that are highlighted here. What is the feeling on here regarding that 8m of budget cuts in Stoke? Why are Boris supporters pretending that these cuts aren't happening and deflecting onto empty words? It doesn't matter if you voted leave or remain. The fact is that these cuts are real and everyone who lives in SOT should be pissed off about them. Nobody is on about those cuts( it has it's own thread) this was about the budget which looks to be a positive one but still for some it's only negative, it really is like pissing in the wind to get some to have the slightest positive comment. Last two pages on here are related to the budget and taxes, and this is budget related. What do you think about the budget cuts for SOT?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Mar 11, 2020 15:18:33 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 11, 2020 15:44:21 GMT
Austerity is well and truly over. My hairy arse is it.
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 11, 2020 15:48:03 GMT
My first reaction on hearing the Budget was it sounds like "Barber's boom" in the early 70s. Barber launched a major spending/borrowing budget to boost the economy after all the years of "stagflation" under Wilson in the late 60s.
Barber's budget didn't work and lead to massive inflation of prices and wages and rediculous pay demands by the unions leading ultimately to the miner's strike and Heath calling an election he lost. Barber went back to work in the City.
Against the background of Coronavirus, trade war between USA and China, Brexit, and oil prices collapsing (they were inflating rapidly in the early 70s), it seems that inflation is unlikely and financial institutions are eager to lend money to the UK government to earn even small profits.
It follows this budget could be a master stroke, time will tell. People may ask why could this not have been done before?. The answer is simple, we did not have all the conditions described in the last paragraph, and we have full employment , the highest in our history, and the lowest unemployment for over 40 years.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 11, 2020 16:01:02 GMT
and we have full employment , the highest in our history, and the lowest unemployment for over 40 years. Acompanied by the lowest job security for generations, uncertainty on hours and pay, toothless unions and rights being eradicated at every turn. A low wage labour market subsidised by the benefits system whcih in turn subsidises wealthy landlords and property developers.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 11, 2020 16:15:36 GMT
£18 per day Sick Pay for those who have to self-isolate
I suppose that is ok if you stay in, don't eat, don't put on the heating, don't have a mortgage and live somewhere where you don't have to pay any Council Tax!!!
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Post by foster on Mar 11, 2020 16:16:01 GMT
and we have full employment , the highest in our history, and the lowest unemployment for over 40 years. Acompanied by the lowest job security for generations, uncertainty on hours and pay, toothless unions and rights being eradicated at every turn. A low wage labour market subsidised by the benefits system whcih in turn subsidises wealthy landlords and property developers. What does 'full' employment mean? Wouldn't have thought the increasing number of homeless people and those using food banks were all employed. Amazing what they can do with zero hour contracts and stats nowadays.
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Post by mrcoke on Mar 11, 2020 16:34:18 GMT
and we have full employment , the highest in our history, and the lowest unemployment for over 40 years. Acompanied by the lowest job security for generations, uncertainty on hours and pay, toothless unions and rights being eradicated at every turn. A low wage labour market subsidised by the benefits system whcih in turn subsidises wealthy landlords and property developers. Better a job than no job. Try being young in Spain and Greece. Better an income than no income or dole. We've seen unemployment rise under every Labour government. Lower rights must be attracting people here from all over Europe. I was serving on a jury with a bricklayer last November who had just started a mortgage at 23. Electricians, plumbers, etc. can earn good money. There are jobs out there for those prepared to knuckle down. My nephew learned a trade in the army and has since worked in Yorkshire, Scotland, Wales, now London and bought a house with his wife in Essex and commutes. She works for the police in Yorkshire, now Essex and they have had to live apart at times, but they have made a successful life for themselves. (Guess what? He is a red hot Tory.) You need to watch "Can't Pay, Take It Away" to see how landlords get ripped off. There are bad people in all sections of society. Where would we be without property developers? - a third world country, they satisfy a need.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 11, 2020 16:59:42 GMT
Nobody is on about those cuts( it has it's own thread) this was about the budget which looks to be a positive one but still for some it's only negative, it really is like pissing in the wind to get some to have the slightest positive comment. Last two pages on here are related to the budget and taxes, and this is budget related. What do you think about the budget cuts for SOT? I'm on about THE Budget today and it's a positive one.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 11, 2020 17:06:34 GMT
Acompanied by the lowest job security for generations, uncertainty on hours and pay, toothless unions and rights being eradicated at every turn. A low wage labour market subsidised by the benefits system whcih in turn subsidises wealthy landlords and property developers. Better a job than no job. Try being young in Spain and Greece. Better an income than no income or dole. We've seen unemployment rise under every Labour government. Lower rights must be attracting people here from all over Europe. I was serving on a jury with a bricklayer last November who had just started a mortgage at 23. Electricians, plumbers, etc. can earn good money. There are jobs out there for those prepared to knuckle down. My nephew learned a trade in the army and has since worked in Yorkshire, Scotland, Wales, now London and bought a house with his wife in Essex and commutes. She works for the police in Yorkshire, now Essex and they have had to live apart at times, but they have made a successful life for themselves. (Guess what? He is a red hot Tory.) You need to watch "Can't Pay, Take It Away" to see how landlords get ripped off. There are bad people in all sections of society. Where would we be without property developers? - a third world country, they satisfy a need. So an economy where stacked against the least well off, where the employer has his boot on the throat of his sweat is something to be celebrated? This was raised in PMQ's today This is not full employment, it is pure exploitation.
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Post by foster on Mar 11, 2020 17:10:21 GMT
Last two pages on here are related to the budget and taxes, and this is budget related. What do you think about the budget cuts for SOT? I'm on about THE Budget today and it's a positive one. Sorry, I didn't realise we're only allowed to talk about what you want to talk about.... and only then if we're happy about it. Incidentally, since you're remaining silent on the budget cuts in SOT then I'll assume you're fine with them. Now back to the 'Franklin decides' thread.
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Post by franklin66 on Mar 11, 2020 17:21:51 GMT
I'm on about THE Budget today and it's a positive one. Sorry, I didn't realise we're only allowed to talk about what you want to talk about.... and only then if we're happy about it. Incidentally, since you're remaining silent on the budget cuts in SOT then I'll assume you're fine with them. Now back to the 'Franklin decides' thread. Stop being silly you can talk about whatever you want I prefer today to be positive about todays budget which is what my comments were about. You can ask me about other things if you like but I can chose not to drawn into the negativity cant I ? I chose today's budget it was deflected into something else which I'm not interested in getting into. You are trying to decided what I can talk about not me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 17:44:51 GMT
and we have full employment , the highest in our history, and the lowest unemployment for over 40 years. Acompanied by the lowest job security for generations, uncertainty on hours and pay, toothless unions and rights being eradicated at every turn. A low wage labour market subsidised by the benefits system whcih in turn subsidises wealthy landlords and property developers. Of which much of the blame can be apportioned to poorly managed immigration over the decades.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Mar 11, 2020 18:35:17 GMT
Better a job than no job. Try being young in Spain and Greece. Better an income than no income or dole. We've seen unemployment rise under every Labour government. Lower rights must be attracting people here from all over Europe. I was serving on a jury with a bricklayer last November who had just started a mortgage at 23. Electricians, plumbers, etc. can earn good money. There are jobs out there for those prepared to knuckle down. My nephew learned a trade in the army and has since worked in Yorkshire, Scotland, Wales, now London and bought a house with his wife in Essex and commutes. She works for the police in Yorkshire, now Essex and they have had to live apart at times, but they have made a successful life for themselves. (Guess what? He is a red hot Tory.) You need to watch "Can't Pay, Take It Away" to see how landlords get ripped off. There are bad people in all sections of society. Where would we be without property developers? - a third world country, they satisfy a need. So an economy where stacked against the least well off, where the employer has his boot on the throat of his sweat is something to be celebrated? This was raised in PMQ's today This is not full employment, it is pure exploitation. Momo my step grand daughter is a health care worker on zero hours contract. However she loves it because she gets as many hours as she wants sometimes having to turn down work. On average she works 52 hours a week but could get many more if she wanted them. How does that fit with "exploitation"?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Mar 11, 2020 19:06:49 GMT
So an economy where stacked against the least well off, where the employer has his boot on the throat of his sweat is something to be celebrated? This was raised in PMQ's today This is not full employment, it is pure exploitation. Momo my step grand daughter is a health care worker on zero hours contract. However she loves it because she gets as many hours as she wants sometimes having to turn down work. On average she works 52 hours a week but could get many more if she wanted them. How does that fit with "exploitation"? What about the warehouse worker who turns up for a night shift only to be told there's only half a shift for him and they'll let him know by 2 the next day about tomorrow night. What about a benefit system that can't pick up the slack of the gig economy and forces sick people into the work place during a pandemic. What about the lack of rights and benefits. What about pension contributions, what about stability and planning for those with sweat on their brow rather than a spare Merc in the twin garage?
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