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Post by wannabee on Jun 24, 2022 0:39:52 GMT
Is this an actual real life Government minister or the national gurning champion? She had a comfortable night, sat back and said very little whist Fiona Bruce did all her donkey work................ To my eternal shame I agreed with almost everything Ben Habib had to say Nick Thomas-Symonds took the approach when your opponent is making a horlicks of everything let them dig the hole bigger. He was visibly less secure when pressed what Labour would do differently I can't see this strategy working in a General Election for an overall majority you need to have a positive charismatic message to bring people on board to believe in and I'm not convinced Keir is that man Thought's then turn to which would be the least worst/best option LAB/SNP or LAB/LIB Coalition Interesting times
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 24, 2022 5:46:56 GMT
Oh dear oh dear oh dear
The 14th safest Tory seat lost now lib dem
Then labour getting 48 % to win the other
Then the Tory party chairman resigns
Isnt it good šš¤£šš¤£š¤£
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 24, 2022 5:52:34 GMT
And wheres wholly when the shit hits the fan Oh that's right hiding in Rwanda Wonder why he set the votes for yesterday the coward
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 24, 2022 6:31:40 GMT
Oh dear oh dear oh dear The 14th safest Tory seat lost now lib dem Then labour getting 48 % to win the other Then the Tory party chairman resigns Isnt it good šš¤£šš¤£š¤£ Do you think last nightās results increases or decreases the likelihood of Johnson leading the Tories into the next election? Your answer to that might influence how āgoodā you think the current situation is. That depends on whether or not you are able to see past the end of your nose of course.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 24, 2022 6:33:40 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories.
I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go.
If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 24, 2022 6:35:33 GMT
OOOPS.....
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 24, 2022 6:37:29 GMT
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jun 24, 2022 6:42:21 GMT
He's be gone if that vote of confidence were to have happened after these results. Great set of results. People have had enough
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 24, 2022 6:43:37 GMT
Itās simply a case of when he goes not if he goes, nothing has changed in that respect. But he will goā¦ā¦
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Post by thevoid on Jun 24, 2022 6:43:57 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories. I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go. If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories. I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jun 24, 2022 6:47:27 GMT
What a strange position, Iām actually looking forward to seeing what Dorries or any of the other idiots solely selected for their loyalty are going to say.
I assume the step before Boris walks is where he tries to give the job to Carrie. Who am I kidding, heās not going to walk and itās going to be beautiful.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 24, 2022 6:48:48 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories. I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go. If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories. I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. I think that depends on who they replace him with. But if a āsensible and moderateā candidate with no baggage was chosen I agree theyād climb up the polls quickly against this lame duck of a Labour leaderā¦..
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 24, 2022 6:51:48 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories. I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go. If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories. I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. I'd say you're right on that. Pretty obvious that people have had enough though.
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 24, 2022 6:52:40 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories. I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go. If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories. I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. No too many rotten apples in the corrupt racist Tory party
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Post by knype on Jun 24, 2022 6:53:23 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories. I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go. If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories. I wouldn't be so sure...
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Post by lordb on Jun 24, 2022 6:54:46 GMT
I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. I think that depends on who they replace him with. But if a āsensible and moderateā candidate with no baggage was chosen I agree theyād climb up the polls quickly against this lame duck of a Labour leaderā¦.. Prey tell where can this mythical creature be found?
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jun 24, 2022 6:55:06 GMT
Boris in!
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Post by knype on Jun 24, 2022 6:56:10 GMT
Itās simply a case of when he goes not if he goes, nothing has changed in that respect. But he will goā¦ā¦ And so could Starmer and Raynor very soon? Then who will take over both parties?
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Post by noustie on Jun 24, 2022 6:57:01 GMT
Be interesting to see where we are shipping refugees to tomorrow to divert from today's cluster fuck results.
I'll take Easter Island in the sweep
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Post by theonlooker on Jun 24, 2022 6:58:47 GMT
Itās simply a case of when he goes not if he goes, nothing has changed in that respect. But he will goā¦ā¦ And so could Starmer and Raynor very soon? Then who will take over both parties? Lisa Nandy could make a huge difference to this country.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 24, 2022 7:04:53 GMT
I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. I think that depends on who they replace him with. But if a āsensible and moderateā candidate with no baggage was chosen I agree theyād climb up the polls quickly against this lame duck of a Labour leaderā¦.. Starmerās strategy is basically āIām not Boris Johnson and Iām not Jeremy Corbynā. Itās quite a limited strategy.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 24, 2022 7:04:58 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories. I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go. If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories. I wouldn't be so sure... I agree. There are millions of knypes and followyoudowns around who appear to care only that their side are in power, not what happens to the country and its people when they are. I see the usual pattern has been followed: someone else resigns and Boris runs off to hide.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 24, 2022 7:09:56 GMT
I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. No too many rotten apples in the corrupt racist Tory party You need to be careful slinging unsubstantiated racist accusations on social media. Iām no great fan of the current Tory incumbents but racists they are not. Oh, hang on, when has truth and fact ever stopped your slander and insults though?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 24, 2022 7:11:21 GMT
I think that depends on who they replace him with. But if a āsensible and moderateā candidate with no baggage was chosen I agree theyād climb up the polls quickly against this lame duck of a Labour leaderā¦.. Starmerās strategy is basically āIām not Boris Johnson and Iām not Jeremy Corbynā. Itās quite a limited strategy. A sensible and moderate candidate enables the Tories to climb up the polls. A sensible and moderate candidate leading the Labour party up the polls is a lame duck...go figure! I mean it may well happen anyway with the FPNs or at the next election but if Johnson stays you're going to have to work a lot harder to fuck up Labour's chances of getting elected, prestwich. You must be praying Johnson goes and they get someone more electable in to bugger it up for Starmer (and the country, but that's less important).
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 24, 2022 7:12:26 GMT
I think that depends on who they replace him with. But if a āsensible and moderateā candidate with no baggage was chosen I agree theyād climb up the polls quickly against this lame duck of a Labour leaderā¦.. Prey tell where can this mythical creature be found? A converted warehouse in Rainy City
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 24, 2022 7:14:24 GMT
And so could Starmer and Raynor very soon? Then who will take over both parties? Lisa Nandy could make a huge difference to this country. In a good or bad way?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 24, 2022 7:20:00 GMT
Starmerās strategy is basically āIām not Boris Johnson and Iām not Jeremy Corbynā. Itās quite a limited strategy. A sensible and moderate candidate enables the Tories to climb up the polls. A sensible and moderate candidate leading the Labour party up the polls is a lame duck...go figure! I mean it may well happen anyway with the FPNs or at the next election but if Johnson stays you're going to have to work a lot harder to fuck up Labour's chances of getting elected, prestwich. You must be praying Johnson goes and they get someone more electable in to bugger it up for Starmer (and the country, but that's less important). Starmer is a lame duck because he literally stands for nothing and the moment the Tories gain traction heāll need to step his game up or move aside. Anyone with the ability to read data (see I can be a condescending bell end when I want to be as well) would understand Labourās lead in the polls is built on Tory apathy. And for the 7th or 8th time Iām not sure how one faceless no mark commenting on an Internet forum is fucking up Labourās chances you tedious tedious manā¦..
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 24, 2022 7:23:23 GMT
A sensible and moderate candidate enables the Tories to climb up the polls. A sensible and moderate candidate leading the Labour party up the polls is a lame duck...go figure! I mean it may well happen anyway with the FPNs or at the next election but if Johnson stays you're going to have to work a lot harder to fuck up Labour's chances of getting elected, prestwich. You must be praying Johnson goes and they get someone more electable in to bugger it up for Starmer (and the country, but that's less important). Starmer is a lame duck because he literally stands for nothing and the moment the Tories gain traction heāll need to step his game up or move aside. Anyone with the ability to read data (see I can be a condescending bell end when I want to be as well) would understand Labourās lead in the polls is built on Tory apathy. And for the 7th or 8th time Iām not sure how one faceless no mark commenting on an Internet forum is fucking up Labourās chances you tedious tedious manā¦.. Blimey, last night's results really haven't gone down at all well. You should be pleased, it makes Bozo's departure and replacement by a sensible moderate candidate and Tory polling upturn much more likely. Alternatively, pray that Starmer gets his FPN and sticks to his promise to resign. Perhaps then Labour will elect a new leader you approve of to lead them to another glorious defeat.
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Post by oggyoggy on Jun 24, 2022 7:30:48 GMT
A sensible and moderate candidate enables the Tories to climb up the polls. A sensible and moderate candidate leading the Labour party up the polls is a lame duck...go figure! I mean it may well happen anyway with the FPNs or at the next election but if Johnson stays you're going to have to work a lot harder to fuck up Labour's chances of getting elected, prestwich. You must be praying Johnson goes and they get someone more electable in to bugger it up for Starmer (and the country, but that's less important). Starmer is a lame duck because he literally stands for nothing and the moment the Tories gain traction heāll need to step his game up or move aside. Anyone with the ability to read data (see I can be a condescending bell end when I want to be as well) would understand Labourās lead in the polls is built on Tory apathy. And for the 7th or 8th time Iām not sure how one faceless no mark commenting on an Internet forum is fucking up Labourās chances you tedious tedious manā¦.. Starmer needs to step up. But the Tories have an enormous jump up to make to avoid further humiliation and capitulation, let alone to win the next election. Fingers crossed Johnson clings to power and continues to destroy the worst thing about this country - the tory party.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 24, 2022 7:34:26 GMT
Starmer is a lame duck because he literally stands for nothing and the moment the Tories gain traction heāll need to step his game up or move aside. Anyone with the ability to read data (see I can be a condescending bell end when I want to be as well) would understand Labourās lead in the polls is built on Tory apathy. And for the 7th or 8th time Iām not sure how one faceless no mark commenting on an Internet forum is fucking up Labourās chances you tedious tedious manā¦.. Blimey, last night's results really haven't gone down at all well. You should be pleased, it makes Bozo's departure and replacement by a sensible moderate candidate and Tory polling upturn much more likely. Alternatively, pray that Starmer gets his FPN and sticks to his promise to resign. Perhaps then Labour will elect a new leader you approve of to lead them to another glorious defeat. Last nights results were to be expected although I didnāt expect such a swing for the Lib Dems and I expected Labour to win more convincinglyā¦..ā¦.
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