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Post by wannabee on Jun 23, 2022 22:17:38 GMT
"Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure nineteen nineteen and six , result happiness.Annual income twenty pounds, annual expenditure twenty pounds ought and six, result misery" Dickens You have to put things into perspective and consider a series of events After the 2008 Financial Crash in 2008 there was massive upheaval in the workplace and people were grateful to have a job, many didn't or there terms and conditions were altered From 2010 the Conservative Government embarked on a decade of austerity where services were systematically stripped to the bone By 2016 under Teresa May The Jams (Just about managing families) began to raise their voices but had no leveredge Neither could she find a Magic Money Tree for the Nurses who hadn't had a pay rise for 8 years Fast forward a few years and Covid hit and for a two year period people generally reevaluated who were and were not key workers The results were surprising to some The next big event was the energy crisis where energy costs increased by 50%/100% with a knock-on effect to food prices far above the headline inflation number which is based on a basket of items but which consume a very high proportion of lower paid peoples budget. During this period Income relative to cost of living has remained below 2010 rates fullfact.org/economy/employment-since-2010-wages/You have to acknowledge the cost of Covid to the Treasury and also some targeted supports but they don't go near enough A large number of people are very fearful of what may happen as the next round of energy costs kick in plus interest rates rises effect on Mortgages The Government making an announcement that it is looking at relaxing Bankers bonus currently capped at 100% of Base Salary only adds petrol to the fire I'll declare relative disinterest, I'm comfortably retired without a Mortgage, I don't need a 10% increase in my State Pension but will happily accept it and use it at my discretion |
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Post by Davef on Jun 23, 2022 22:36:09 GMT
Is this an actual real life Government minister or the national gurning champion?  |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 23, 2022 22:43:17 GMT
Is this an actual real life Government minister or the national gurning champion? She had a comfortable night, sat back and said very little whist Fiona Bruce did all her donkey work................ |
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Post by 828492 on Jun 23, 2022 22:51:47 GMT
Is this an actual real life Government minister or the national gurning champion? No problem for her. If she needs a bob or two she can just work an extra few hours or an extra day or two. That’s what she thinks happens away from Westminster. This is one up from the likes of Dave ‘Call me Dave’ Cameron and Gideon ‘Call me George’ Osborne who think you should just take a bit extra from the family trust if you are a bit short of cash. Johnson just gets someone else to pay. |
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Post by wannabee on Jun 24, 2022 0:39:52 GMT
Is this an actual real life Government minister or the national gurning champion? She had a comfortable night, sat back and said very little whist Fiona Bruce did all her donkey work................ To my eternal shame I agreed with almost everything Ben Habib had to say Nick Thomas-Symonds took the approach when your opponent is making a horlicks of everything let them dig the hole bigger. He was visibly less secure when pressed what Labour would do differently I can't see this strategy working in a General Election for an overall majority you need to have a positive charismatic message to bring people on board to believe in and I'm not convinced Keir is that man Thought's then turn to which would be the least worst/best option LAB/SNP or LAB/LIB Coalition Interesting times |
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 24, 2022 5:46:56 GMT
Oh dear oh dear oh dear
The 14th safest Tory seat lost now lib dem
Then labour getting 48 % to win the other
Then the Tory party chairman resigns
Isnt it good 😁🤣😁🤣🤣
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 24, 2022 5:52:34 GMT
And wheres wholly when the shit hits the fan
Oh that's right hiding in Rwanda
Wonder why he set the votes for yesterday the coward
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 24, 2022 6:31:40 GMT
Oh dear oh dear oh dear The 14th safest Tory seat lost now lib dem Then labour getting 48 % to win the other Then the Tory party chairman resigns Isnt it good 😁🤣😁🤣🤣 Do you think last night’s results increases or decreases the likelihood of Johnson leading the Tories into the next election? Your answer to that might influence how “good” you think the current situation is. That depends on whether or not you are able to see past the end of your nose of course. |
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 24, 2022 6:33:40 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories.
I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go.
If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 24, 2022 6:35:33 GMT
OOOPS.....  |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 24, 2022 6:37:29 GMT
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jun 24, 2022 6:42:21 GMT
He's be gone if that vote of confidence were to have happened after these results. Great set of results. People have had enough |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 24, 2022 6:43:37 GMT
It’s simply a case of when he goes not if he goes, nothing has changed in that respect. But he will go……
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Post by thevoid on Jun 24, 2022 6:43:57 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories. I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go. If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories. I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. |
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Post by Gob Bluth on Jun 24, 2022 6:47:27 GMT
What a strange position, I’m actually looking forward to seeing what Dorries or any of the other idiots solely selected for their loyalty are going to say.
I assume the step before Boris walks is where he tries to give the job to Carrie. Who am I kidding, he’s not going to walk and it’s going to be beautiful.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jun 24, 2022 6:48:48 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories. I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go. If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories. I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. I think that depends on who they replace him with. But if a “sensible and moderate” candidate with no baggage was chosen I agree they’d climb up the polls quickly against this lame duck of a Labour leader….. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jun 24, 2022 6:51:48 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories. I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go. If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories. I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. I'd say you're right on that. Pretty obvious that people have had enough though. |
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Post by essexstokey on Jun 24, 2022 6:52:40 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories. I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go. If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories. I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. No too many rotten apples in the corrupt racist Tory party |
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Post by knype on Jun 24, 2022 6:53:23 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories. I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go. If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories. I wouldn't be so sure... |
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Post by lordb on Jun 24, 2022 6:54:46 GMT
I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. I think that depends on who they replace him with. But if a “sensible and moderate” candidate with no baggage was chosen I agree they’d climb up the polls quickly against this lame duck of a Labour leader….. Prey tell where can this mythical creature be found? |
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Jun 24, 2022 6:55:06 GMT
Boris in!
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Post by knype on Jun 24, 2022 6:56:10 GMT
It’s simply a case of when he goes not if he goes, nothing has changed in that respect. But he will go…… And so could Starmer and Raynor very soon? Then who will take over both parties? |
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Post by noustie on Jun 24, 2022 6:57:01 GMT
Be interesting to see where we are shipping refugees to tomorrow to divert from today's cluster fuck results.
I'll take Easter Island in the sweep
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Post by theonlooker on Jun 24, 2022 6:58:47 GMT
It’s simply a case of when he goes not if he goes, nothing has changed in that respect. But he will go…… And so could Starmer and Raynor very soon? Then who will take over both parties? Lisa Nandy could make a huge difference to this country. |
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 24, 2022 7:04:53 GMT
I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. I think that depends on who they replace him with. But if a “sensible and moderate” candidate with no baggage was chosen I agree they’d climb up the polls quickly against this lame duck of a Labour leader….. Starmer’s strategy is basically “I’m not Boris Johnson and I’m not Jeremy Corbyn”. It’s quite a limited strategy. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 24, 2022 7:04:58 GMT
Another humiliating night for the Tories. I wonder if this is enough for them to decide Boris Johnson has to go. If not, the next general election is certain defeat for the Tories. I wouldn't be so sure... I agree. There are millions of knypes and followyoudowns around who appear to care only that their side are in power, not what happens to the country and its people when they are. I see the usual pattern has been followed: someone else resigns and Boris runs off to hide. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 24, 2022 7:09:56 GMT
I don't think Essex has fully grasped that if Boris falls on his sword a new leader would give the Tories a better chance at the next election. You can only go up from this. No too many rotten apples in the corrupt racist Tory party You need to be careful slinging unsubstantiated racist accusations on social media. I’m no great fan of the current Tory incumbents but racists they are not. Oh, hang on, when has truth and fact ever stopped your slander and insults though? |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jun 24, 2022 7:11:21 GMT
I think that depends on who they replace him with. But if a “sensible and moderate” candidate with no baggage was chosen I agree they’d climb up the polls quickly against this lame duck of a Labour leader….. Starmer’s strategy is basically “I’m not Boris Johnson and I’m not Jeremy Corbyn”. It’s quite a limited strategy. A sensible and moderate candidate enables the Tories to climb up the polls. A sensible and moderate candidate leading the Labour party up the polls is a lame duck...go figure! I mean it may well happen anyway with the FPNs or at the next election but if Johnson stays you're going to have to work a lot harder to fuck up Labour's chances of getting elected, prestwich. You must be praying Johnson goes and they get someone more electable in to bugger it up for Starmer (and the country, but that's less important). |
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 24, 2022 7:12:26 GMT
I think that depends on who they replace him with. But if a “sensible and moderate” candidate with no baggage was chosen I agree they’d climb up the polls quickly against this lame duck of a Labour leader….. Prey tell where can this mythical creature be found? A converted warehouse in Rainy City |
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 24, 2022 7:14:24 GMT
And so could Starmer and Raynor very soon? Then who will take over both parties? Lisa Nandy could make a huge difference to this country. In a good or bad way? |
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