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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 20, 2022 6:21:06 GMT
Some pretty pissed off staff in Downing St apparently, struggling to understand how they got so many fines and Johnson just the one. As if they'd been treated differently. Surely not!
It might rumble on a bit yet.
Meanwhile, the Mail considers Bozo to be "in the clear". Not sure how being convicted counts as in the clear, especially when compared to their fortnight's campaign on Starmer, but that's their rather odd "logic" in full view.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 20, 2022 6:35:45 GMT
It also paints her as being dangerously underqualified for her brief, blazingly incompetent and there just as a useful idiot for far more dangerous people in their culture war. As does this www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-61508170As does this As does pretty much anything she does and says in public. I can only imagine the response of a couple on this board if it was Diane Abbot getting those numbers wrong… Indeed. "That [ownership of C4] is a particularly vulnerable area for you. My colleague had to explain it to you at the previous session". Ouch! I like the way she pretends not to understand the perfectly clearly enunciated question, while giving the answer in her request for it to be repeated, thus indicating she knew perfectly well what was being asked. Doh!
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 20, 2022 6:39:06 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 20, 2022 6:43:23 GMT
He's doing all he can for everyone and he's got a plan to help even more.
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Post by partickpotter on May 20, 2022 6:44:33 GMT
I can only imagine the response of a couple on this board if it was Diane Abbot getting those numbers wrong… Indeed. "That [ownership of C4] is a particularly vulnerable area for you. My colleague had to explain it to you at the previous session". Ouch! Here we go again. Misrepresenting what was said. I’m referring to the tweet where she didn’t get the 96% figure the wrong way round. She explained why it was bogus. She then, because she is a politician, went on to quote an equally bogus stat herself. Some people, including plenty of people on this board, seem very relaxed about the spreading of false narrative on social media, well, as long as it’s not Donald Trump doing it.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 20, 2022 6:51:24 GMT
Are you sure?
"What proportion supported privatisation?"
"I think the figure was 96%"
"The answer to the question is that 96% opposed the privatisation".
I agree that she then goes on to "refuse to accept the result" (winky thing).
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Post by essexstokey on May 20, 2022 8:03:12 GMT
Nancy Pelosi has said there's going to be no free trade between the UK and USA if we unilaterally tear up the Northern Ireland Protocol. That puts us in a particularly sticky situation .... and could isolate us further. Good job we have a crack team by at hand (sarcasm). Miss read your post thought you said we had a team on crack 😁😁😁 well you never know with all the party's 😁😁
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Post by essexstokey on May 20, 2022 8:08:13 GMT
He's doing all he can for everyone and he's got a plan to help even more. What emigrate resign now hes left us in a mess!!! Great plan for a self centred Tory!!
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 20, 2022 9:57:28 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 20, 2022 11:19:11 GMT
Not if it wasn't predicted eh?
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Post by essexstokey on May 20, 2022 12:51:24 GMT
Boris 'was investigated over just two out of six events he attended' link
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Post by partickpotter on May 20, 2022 13:24:23 GMT
Not sure where to put this, because it’s more about the state of journalism and the audience they create and play to.
This could have been anyone on the receiving end of a shoddy interviewer, but as it’s a government minister, I’ll put it here.
No further words are really needed, just a gentle sigh to lament the pitifully low standards in todays world of mass media…
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 20, 2022 15:00:59 GMT
Not if it wasn't predicted eh? Worth reading the whole thread. Young junior women coming off worst when in Johnson's orbit. Privilleged senior lawyered up men fully protected. Who ever would have thought that?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 20, 2022 18:04:05 GMT
Not if it wasn't predicted eh? Worth reading the whole thread. Young junior women coming off worst when in Johnson's orbit. Privilleged senior lawyered up men fully protected. Who ever would have thought that? Sue Gray said to be absolutely "flabbergasted" that neither Simon Case nor Mark Sedwill received fines. I don't know why she's flabbergasted. I doubt that anyone else is remotely surprised that Johnson's cabinet secretaries have been exonerated nor that Bozo himself was boasting about getting just the one fine back in April. Nor that dozens of junior women civil servants have been thrown under the bus. The Met had to have its arm twisted behind its back to bother to get involved in the first place, so the fact that the person doing the investigating is less than impressed with its subsequent findings doesn't come as a shock!
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Post by oggyoggy on May 20, 2022 18:13:59 GMT
Strange that even though there were 12 illegal parties held at one address, the proprietor has not been issued a fine for hosting multiple illegal parties. Plenty of other were fined tens of thousands of pounds for hosting parties at their home.
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 20, 2022 19:15:03 GMT
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Post by RedandWhite90 on May 20, 2022 19:19:40 GMT
It is literally his life in a microcosm. He turns up, plays the fool despite being deeply sinister, creates a massive mess and leaves everyone but himself to pick up the pieces. And about 30% of the country absolutely love it. It's bonkers.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 20, 2022 19:22:49 GMT
It was probably inevitable that private conversations would be had between the various parties (pardon the pun) so that it could all be "managed appropriately". "It's pretty bad, Boris, you've broken your own rules numerous times. There'll be at least one fine." "OK, one, but just one and make sure Sunak gets one too. I can bluff one out, the parliamentary party has barely a set of balls between them, they'll be fine and then the Met can chuck dozens at junior staff which I'll then look decisive and tough about by getting rid of loads of them, as if it was nothing to do with me." "Works for me".
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Post by toppercorner on May 20, 2022 19:42:44 GMT
what a fucking surprise.
we should be called "Great North Korea" not Great Britain.
Those slimey Tories controlling the media, the right to protest, the amount of tax business doesn't pay, our freedom of movement, the police etc
corrupt to the very core
give yourself a slow hand clap if you can still defend these monstrous criminals
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 20, 2022 21:38:42 GMT
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Post by toppercorner on May 20, 2022 22:52:53 GMT
we have to riot soon. properly. hyperbole of course from me. but we have taken this lying down.
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Post by essexstokey on May 21, 2022 5:44:05 GMT
Department for Education descends into chaos as civil servants can’t find desks after returning to office link
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Post by essexstokey on May 21, 2022 6:16:14 GMT
Working from home isn’t the problem – our bone idle prime minister is link
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Post by partickpotter on May 21, 2022 6:53:03 GMT
we have to riot soon. properly. hyperbole of course from me. but we have taken this lying down. Calm down, calm down, calm down…
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Post by partickpotter on May 21, 2022 6:57:36 GMT
Boris 'was investigated over just two out of six events he attended' linkI’d have thought you’d be quite happy that Johnson didn’t get fined. Labour’s chances of winning the next election are greatly enhanced by him remaining in #10. All you need now, to put the cherry atop the cake so to speak, is Keir and his sidekick to get a fine, so Labour can bring in a new leader that might have some popular appeal. And bob’s your uncle… Tories out of power for a generation or longer.
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Post by theonlooker on May 21, 2022 7:06:36 GMT
Got to admit, in a perverse way I have a grudging admiration for Boris. I just don't know how he does it.
He seems to stumble from one disaster to the next with his reputation still in tact and with a band of loyal supporters behind him that never waver.
The strokes pulled get even more outrageous with every day yet nothing changes. Maybe I've gone to sleep one day and just woke up in this weird place?
He's very close to being my faux hero, the absolute arse.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 21, 2022 7:28:59 GMT
Got to admit, in a perverse way I have a grudging admiration for Boris. I just don't know how he does it. He seems to stumble from one disaster to the next with his reputation still in tact and with a band of loyal supporters behind him that never waver. The strokes pulled get even more outrageous with every day yet nothing changes. Maybe I've gone to sleep one day and just woke up in this weird place? He's very close to being my faux hero, the absolute arse. It is strange, isn't it, like people are perfectly prepared to overlook stuff that would normally matter, even to their own detriment, because it's him. Britain's answer to Trump on many levels. Odd place we've become.
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Post by partickpotter on May 21, 2022 7:47:12 GMT
Got to admit, in a perverse way I have a grudging admiration for Boris. I just don't know how he does it. He seems to stumble from one disaster to the next with his reputation still in tact and with a band of loyal supporters behind him that never waver. The strokes pulled get even more outrageous with every day yet nothing changes. Maybe I've gone to sleep one day and just woke up in this weird place? He's very close to being my faux hero, the absolute arse. It certainly is weird. He’s fucking hopeless. But he seems to be very, very lucky. This partygate fiasco, for example, is in danger of looking increasingly like absurd overkill; so much fuss, for Johnson personally, over a birthday cake (of course, that report is still to come out which may harm him, but I suspect he’ll find a way to distance himself from it). It helps that he is something of a character so gets folks attention, which is half the battle for a politician. His reputation for being a buffoon is so baked in people sort of forget it and subconsciously cut him more slack than they’d allow other politicians; that’s Boris for you sort of thing.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 21, 2022 8:10:39 GMT
Got to admit, in a perverse way I have a grudging admiration for Boris. I just don't know how he does it. He seems to stumble from one disaster to the next with his reputation still in tact and with a band of loyal supporters behind him that never waver. The strokes pulled get even more outrageous with every day yet nothing changes. Maybe I've gone to sleep one day and just woke up in this weird place? He's very close to being my faux hero, the absolute arse. It certainly is weird. He’s fucking hopeless. But he seems to be very, very lucky. This partygate fiasco, for example, is in danger of looking increasingly like absurd overkill; so much fuss, for Johnson personally, over a birthday cake (of course, that report is still to come out which may harm him, but I suspect he’ll find a way to distance himself from it). It helps that he is something of a character so gets folks attention, which is half the battle for a politician. His reputation for being a buffoon is so baked in people sort of forget it and subconsciously cut him more slack than they’d allow other politicians; that’s Boris for you sort of thing. I suspect that's right. It was the same with Jimmy Savile, "that's Jimmy for you". Which is nothing if not ironic given Bozo's desperation to smear Starmer with Savile's non-prosecution recently. It also goes to confirm that, if you've managed to cultivate contacts and a persona where you routinely get away with anything, it's often a dangerous outcome. For lots of innocent victims in Savile's case, for the rest of the country (and numerous women) in Johnson's. Two blokes whose sole purposes in life were/are to get what they wanted at all times and screw the consequences. You'd hope people would've realised that this kind of unthinking, shrug it off, let's just look the other way, he's ok really type of approach isn't sensible. But apparently not.
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Post by partickpotter on May 21, 2022 8:18:26 GMT
It certainly is weird. He’s fucking hopeless. But he seems to be very, very lucky. This partygate fiasco, for example, is in danger of looking increasingly like absurd overkill; so much fuss, for Johnson personally, over a birthday cake (of course, that report is still to come out which may harm him, but I suspect he’ll find a way to distance himself from it). It helps that he is something of a character so gets folks attention, which is half the battle for a politician. His reputation for being a buffoon is so baked in people sort of forget it and subconsciously cut him more slack than they’d allow other politicians; that’s Boris for you sort of thing. I suspect that's right. It was the same with Jimmy Savile, "that's Jimmy for you". Which is nothing if not ironic given Bozo's desperation to smear Starmer with Savile's non-prosecution recently. It also goes to confirm that, if you've managed to cultivate contacts and a persona where you routinely get away with anything, it's often a dangerous outcome. For lots of innocent victims in Savile's case, for the rest of the country (and numerous women) in Johnson's. Two blokes whose sole purposes in life were/are to get what they wanted at all times and screw the consequences. You'd hope people would've realised that this kind of unthinking, shrug it off, let's just look the other way, he's ok really type of approach isn't sensible. But apparently not. Looking to establish equivalence of Johnson to Saville by way of direct contrast is a cuntish thing to do. But, not surprising coming from you.
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