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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 15, 2022 12:33:18 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 15, 2022 12:39:59 GMT
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Post by essexstokey on May 15, 2022 13:15:20 GMT
Of course I forgot the usuall joke of a Tory apologist would try and deflect what his feurer did like allways It's so plainly obvious now to everyone you defend the indefensible usually with half truths or slander then when caught out revert to personal abuse That's why you can't trust a Tory Its quite funny how you complain about abuse and name calling whilst indulging in abuse and name calling. cant see any personal abuse or name calling there think you need to go to Specsavers
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Post by followyoudown on May 15, 2022 13:17:23 GMT
He didn't make it worse she was not getting released until Iran got its money for hostages, the pretence that anything said made the slightest bit of difference is laughable. I suppose you know more than Zaghari-Ratcliffe about it. It is amazing that you were present at the Iranian court hearing. She must have misremembered it. She wasn't already in prison / under house arrest / stopped from leaving the country then, she seemed to have got an awfully light sentence for someone they thought a spy too and they just decided to release completely unrelated to the payment of ransom money of course.....
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 15, 2022 13:22:58 GMT
Of course I forgot the usuall joke of a Tory apologist would try and deflect what his feurer did like allways It's so plainly obvious now to everyone you defend the indefensible usually with half truths or slander then when caught out revert to personal abuse That's why you can't trust a Tory Its quite funny how you complain about abuse and name calling whilst indulging in abuse and name calling. From the person who called me a C U N T on this very thread? You're in no place to lecture anyone.
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Post by followyoudown on May 15, 2022 13:28:49 GMT
Its quite funny how you complain about abuse and name calling whilst indulging in abuse and name calling. cant see any personal abuse or name calling there think you need to go to Specsavers You call me a joke in the first line perhaps thats a term of endearment amongst your circle of (imaginary) friends but generally I'd say most people call it name calling or abuse, personally I'm not arsed about anything I get called on here just pointing out your Starmer like levels of honesty and integrity whilst crying over yourself being called names
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Post by 828492 on May 15, 2022 16:49:47 GMT
cant see any personal abuse or name calling there think you need to go to Specsavers You call me a joke in the first line perhaps thats a term of endearment amongst your circle of (imaginary) friends but generally I'd say most people call it name calling or abuse, personally I'm not arsed about anything I get called on here just pointing out your Starmer like levels of honesty and integrity whilst crying over yourself being called names Whereas you aspire to Johnsonian levels of honesty, integrity and credibility…
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Post by essexstokey on May 15, 2022 17:13:24 GMT
cant see any personal abuse or name calling there think you need to go to Specsavers You call me a joke in the first line perhaps thats a term of endearment amongst your circle of (imaginary) friends but generally I'd say most people call it name calling or abuse, personally I'm not arsed about anything I get called on here just pointing out your Starmer like levels of honesty and integrity whilst crying over yourself being called names think you protest to much i didnt name anyone in my post at all but its obviouse you think the cap fits so you know what your doing dont you
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Post by partickpotter on May 15, 2022 17:23:32 GMT
Michael Gove, it seems, has said Stoke would be an excellent home for the House of Lords during the refurbishment of Westminster. Not everyone agrees though… Peer hits out at ‘bonkerooney’ plan for Lords to sit in Stoke. That peer, unsurprisingly, is a Labour peer. Anyway, what do folk on here think… a good or bad thing for Stoke to be a home to the Lords?
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Post by elystokie on May 15, 2022 17:25:29 GMT
Michael Gove, it seems, has said Stoke would be an excellent home for the House of Lords during the refurbishment of Westminster. Not everyone agrees though… Peer hits out at ‘bonkerooney’ plan for Lords to sit in Stoke. That peer, unsurprisingly, is a Labour peer. Anyway, what do folk on here think… a good or bad thing for Stoke to be a home to the Lords? Hanley Town Hall is empty, I bet the Hanley lunatics wouldn't be around for much longer if they sited it there.
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 15, 2022 18:16:54 GMT
Michael Gove, it seems, has said Stoke would be an excellent home for the House of Lords during the refurbishment of Westminster. Not everyone agrees though… Peer hits out at ‘bonkerooney’ plan for Lords to sit in Stoke. That peer, unsurprisingly, is a Labour peer. Anyway, what do folk on here think… a good or bad thing for Stoke to be a home to the Lords? The privileged tossers would attend even less than they do now if The Palace Of Westminister became The Palace of Weston Coyney!
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Post by 828492 on May 15, 2022 18:27:39 GMT
Michael Gove, it seems, has said Stoke would be an excellent home for the House of Lords during the refurbishment of Westminster. Not everyone agrees though… Peer hits out at ‘bonkerooney’ plan for Lords to sit in Stoke. That peer, unsurprisingly, is a Labour peer. Anyway, what do folk on here think… a good or bad thing for Stoke to be a home to the Lords? The privileged tossers would attend even less than they do now if The Palace Of Westminister became The Palace of Weston Coyney! That could only be a good thing. The less the likes of Lady ‘Knickers R Us’ Mone and Lord Siberia are involved in passing UK laws the better.
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Post by dutchstokie on May 15, 2022 19:40:12 GMT
It was. But after Johnson said (incorrectly) she was training journalists there, Iran arranged an immediate court hearing, quoting Johnson as evidence she was a spy. So as Foreign Secretary, he didn’t really do very much to help her plight. In fact, he made it worse with clumsy and incorrect comments. Very much his forte. He did eventually apologise for making those comments. He should have been big enough to apologise to her face also. But he is the smallest of people and he doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He didn't make it worse she was not getting released until Iran got its money for hostages, the pretence that anything said made the slightest bit of difference is laughable. Don’t waste your time replying mate……..
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Post by essexstokey on May 15, 2022 19:47:15 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 15, 2022 19:51:28 GMT
Oops...
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Post by mrcoke on May 15, 2022 20:47:23 GMT
Michael Gove, it seems, has said Stoke would be an excellent home for the House of Lords during the refurbishment of Westminster. Not everyone agrees though… Peer hits out at ‘bonkerooney’ plan for Lords to sit in Stoke. That peer, unsurprisingly, is a Labour peer. Anyway, what do folk on here think… a good or bad thing for Stoke to be a home to the Lords? My initial reaction is "this is a wind up" but OK with me. If you are going to spend a load of tax payers money, Stoke is probably one of the more needy places and could do with the injection of money and improvements in travel communications, hotels, etc. Other cities get government money such as Swansea DVLA, Darlington getting treasury office, and many of the big cities get huge redevelopment projects. The Scots and Northern Irish gets lots more per head and there are other huge investments like Crossrail, HS2, freeports, metros, tramways, carbon capture, nuclear power, the list is endless, and Stoke misses out on everything. Putting my anti EU hat on, we spent 47 years pouring tax payers money into facilities in Brussels, Strasbourg, Luxembourg, and Frankfurt, not forgetting interpol in The Hague.
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Post by essexstokey on May 15, 2022 21:36:59 GMT
Michael Gove, it seems, has said Stoke would be an excellent home for the House of Lords during the refurbishment of Westminster. Not everyone agrees though… Peer hits out at ‘bonkerooney’ plan for Lords to sit in Stoke. That peer, unsurprisingly, is a Labour peer. Anyway, what do folk on here think… a good or bad thing for Stoke to be a home to the Lords? My initial reaction is "this is a wind up" but OK with me. If you are going to spend a load of tax payers money, Stoke is probably one of the more needy places and could do with the injection of money and improvements in travel communications, hotels, etc. Other cities get government money such as Swansea DVLA, Darlington getting treasury office, and many of the big cities get huge redevelopment projects. The Scots and Northern Irish gets lots more per head and there are other huge investments like Crossrail, HS2, freeports, metros, tramways, carbon capture, nuclear power, the list is endless, and Stoke misses out on everything. Putting my anti EU hat on, we spent 47 years pouring tax payers money into facilities in Brussels, Strasbourg, Luxembourg, and Frankfurt, not forgetting interpol in The Hague. Wrong stoke had alot of funding from Europe from a500 to the reclamation of land associated with the pits even the land our ground stands on various regeneration projects Is it enough no If you look at funding for stoke most has come from Europe not UK government something some posters on here don't acknowledge for political reasons Let's face it all this talk from the Tories is just that where we've they in the past were were they in the previous 10 year's Once they have bought your vote and got there soundbite stoke will be forgotten yet again you can never trust a Tory!!
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Post by mrcoke on May 15, 2022 21:52:30 GMT
My initial reaction is "this is a wind up" but OK with me. If you are going to spend a load of tax payers money, Stoke is probably one of the more needy places and could do with the injection of money and improvements in travel communications, hotels, etc. Other cities get government money such as Swansea DVLA, Darlington getting treasury office, and many of the big cities get huge redevelopment projects. The Scots and Northern Irish gets lots more per head and there are other huge investments like Crossrail, HS2, freeports, metros, tramways, carbon capture, nuclear power, the list is endless, and Stoke misses out on everything. Putting my anti EU hat on, we spent 47 years pouring tax payers money into facilities in Brussels, Strasbourg, Luxembourg, and Frankfurt, not forgetting interpol in The Hague. Wrong stoke had alot of funding from Europe from a500 to the reclamation of land associated with the pits even the land our ground stands on various regeneration projects Is it enough no If you look at funding for stoke most has come from Europe not UK government something some posters on here don't acknowledge for political reasons Let's face it all this talk from the Tories is just that where we've they in the past were were they in the previous 10 year's Once they have bought your vote and got there soundbite stoke will be forgotten yet again you can never trust a Tory!! The UK has never had a penny from Europe. The EEC/EU has only given back part of the money the UK has paid in. The net contribution of the UK to the EEC/EU is well over £200 billion during membership. All EU funded schemes are submitted through the national government.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 7:38:38 GMT
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 8:00:12 GMT
Oh dear....
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 16, 2022 8:29:06 GMT
The cost of living crisis solved in one fell swoop
Cheers Rach.
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Post by Gob Bluth on May 16, 2022 8:30:58 GMT
As someone who's generally against regulation this sounds like like such a stupid plan. I can understand why we've forgotten the lessons of the Spanish Flu or the political environment before WWI and WWII but the financial crash was so recent that the same clowns that caused it could still be in the same positions. It's also hard to ignore that the underlying issue was allowing people to become over leveraged and this could well be happening while people paying £1,200 rent are not allowed to have a mortgage for £900.
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Post by essexstokey on May 16, 2022 8:37:29 GMT
Oops.... At least we know about it before she sells it off on the cheap to her or one of her cronies
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Post by Gob Bluth on May 16, 2022 8:39:50 GMT
The cost of living crisis solved in one fell swoop Cheers Rach. An MP that has an onsite creche, is allowed to claim a second home through expenses is telling people all you need to do to get more money is change jobs. Another one that went to the right University who seemingly is totally detached from reality, quelle surprise. A lot of the MPs seem to be suffering from split personality disorder; on the one hand advising people just to make more money or get better jobs but in other interviews fearing for inflation.
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Post by essexstokey on May 16, 2022 8:42:47 GMT
The cost of living crisis solved in one fell swoop Cheers Rach. Notice that they didn't say get rid of o hours contracts or pay a decent wage for the job people do With the Tories it's a case of I'm all right Jack sod the rest of you
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 9:26:42 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on May 16, 2022 9:50:35 GMT
The cost of living crisis solved in one fell swoop Cheers Rach. An MP that has an onsite creche, is allowed to claim a second home through expenses is telling people all you need to do to get more money is change jobs. Another one that went to the right University who seemingly is totally detached from reality, quelle surprise. A lot of the MPs seem to be suffering from split personality disorder; on the one hand advising people just to make more money or get better jobs but in other interviews fearing for inflation. Actually she didn't and its incredibly disingenuous of Sly Views to claim she did say this, what she actually said is even quoted in the article but hey all aboard the outrage bus.
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 16, 2022 10:24:57 GMT
An MP that has an onsite creche, is allowed to claim a second home through expenses is telling people all you need to do to get more money is change jobs. Another one that went to the right University who seemingly is totally detached from reality, quelle surprise. A lot of the MPs seem to be suffering from split personality disorder; on the one hand advising people just to make more money or get better jobs but in other interviews fearing for inflation. Actually she didn't and its incredibly disingenuous of Sly Views to claim she did say this, what she actually said is even quoted in the article but hey all aboard the outrage bus. It is a completely disingenuous thing for a Minister to say after 12 years of a Government who have created the most insecure Labour market in modern history. Make no mistake this will form part of the Tory narrative over the next couple of years. If you’re struggling it’s your fault not ours
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Post by Gob Bluth on May 16, 2022 10:30:17 GMT
An MP that has an onsite creche, is allowed to claim a second home through expenses is telling people all you need to do to get more money is change jobs. Another one that went to the right University who seemingly is totally detached from reality, quelle surprise. A lot of the MPs seem to be suffering from split personality disorder; on the one hand advising people just to make more money or get better jobs but in other interviews fearing for inflation. Actually she didn't and its incredibly disingenuous of Sly Views to claim she did say this, what she actually said is even quoted in the article but hey all aboard the outrage bus. Sorry I might not be understanding what you're saying. She did advise people to take on more hours or change jobs. She didn't say anything explicit about inflation but she's advising people to get more money to cope with inflation. I don't think I'm making too big a leap to say that asking everyone to get work more hours or increase their pay will only make inflation worse. I'm just trying to highlight that some people aren't in a position to simply change jobs and suggesting this minister has many benefits that might mean they don't understand the day-to-day troubles some people face, while also highlighting an economic floor to her argument. Sorry, I think I understand your point now. I suppose much of it dependents on how mobile we believe some of our labour market to be. I think that while certain sections are mobile I think that some of the lower paying jobs might give people the time or freedom they need to easily move onto something else.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 16, 2022 11:05:32 GMT
Actually she didn't and its incredibly disingenuous of Sly Views to claim she did say this, what she actually said is even quoted in the article but hey all aboard the outrage bus. Sorry I might not be understanding what you're saying. She did advise people to take on more hours or change jobs. She didn't say anything explicit about inflation but she's advising people to get more money to cope with inflation. I don't think I'm making too big a leap to say that asking everyone to get work more hours or increase their pay will only make inflation worse. I'm just trying to highlight that some people aren't in a position to simply change jobs and suggesting this minister has many benefits that might mean they don't understand the day-to-day troubles some people face, while also highlighting an economic floor to her argument. Sorry, I think I understand your point now. I suppose much of it dependents on how mobile we believe some of our labour market to be. I think that while certain sections are mobile I think that some of the lower paying jobs might give people the time or freedom they need to easily move onto something else. She absolutely did. FYD is gaslighting again.
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