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Post by essexstokey on May 14, 2022 7:49:23 GMT
'Where there's poverty, there's anxiety': Impact of cost of living crisis on mental health link
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Post by essexstokey on May 14, 2022 7:50:37 GMT
No apology from Boris Johnson after Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe tells him she lived in ‘shadow of his words’ link
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Post by essexstokey on May 14, 2022 8:01:15 GMT
Boris plans to axe 90,000 civil service jobs to save money for tax cuts
bet its only for the rich and that the ones that need it wont get it especially those on benefits
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Post by oggyoggy on May 14, 2022 8:13:49 GMT
Boris plans to axe 90,000 civil service jobs to save money for tax cuts bet its only for the rich and that the ones that need it wont get it especially those on benefits Half a million employees discover 1 in 5 will lose their jobs from a headline in the Daily Mail. It’s like something P&O ferries would do. This is despite the fact that brexit, and less so the pandemic, have brought unprecedented workload on an understaffed civil service. And the brexit issues aren’t going anywhere with plans to rewrite all retained EU law in the Queen’s Speech (not to change the law, but literally to rewrite it so it derives from English law rather than EU law - i.e a complete waste of massive resources and time), and with us potentially reneging on the Irish protocol and therefore the withdrawal agreement! Civil servants enjoying another real terms pay cut compared with inflation and considering their wages were frozen for years. This all while MPs enjoy their second jobs and are paid more than civil servants for their part time MP job. If they push ahead with this, there will be strikes. The FDA union received record numbers of new joiners because of this news. Well done government. Cocking up something else.
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Post by elystokie on May 14, 2022 10:10:59 GMT
I don’t get the resistance from people about returning to the office - It brings back some reality after covid and lockdown. - good for mental health to be meeting people in person again. - despite what people say it’s a better working environment and encourages teamwork / unity. 2 quotes one from someone in the adjoining office and one from a mate “Working from home gave me the opportunity to do my washing and get my chores done” and “first time i’ve met someone outside the school run in 2 years” Additionaly what do the chief executives do when they realise they can pay someone in Mumbai to do the same job for half the money from there home. Also should they still be paying travel allowance when there’s no travelling being done? I can't abide working in an office personally, did it for a couple of years and was bored shitless more or less the whole time. Having said that I've never worked from home either, I imagine it suits some but not others, like most things in life, so where possible people should surely be given the choice if there's no negative impact on production or their colleagues workload etc. As for CEO's, I doubt many of them have achieved that lofty position without possessing the wherewithal to have already considered the possibility of someone doing the job cheaper elsewhere.
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 14, 2022 11:09:57 GMT
Johnson's comments on working from home just emphasise why he is so feckless he is in everything he does. Most people working from home are way to busy to wonder around making brews and bothering cheese. Says much more about the man than it does about home workers.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on May 14, 2022 11:29:06 GMT
I don’t get the resistance from people about returning to the office - It brings back some reality after covid and lockdown. - good for mental health to be meeting people in person again. - despite what people say it’s a better working environment and encourages teamwork / unity. 2 quotes one from someone in the adjoining office and one from a mate “Working from home gave me the opportunity to do my washing and get my chores done” and “first time i’ve met someone outside the school run in 2 years” Additionaly what do the chief executives do when they realise they can pay someone in Mumbai to do the same job for half the money from there home. Also should they still be paying travel allowance when there’s no travelling being done? It's a little more nuanced than the binary options of 100% at home, or 100% in the office though. We should be continually looking at better ways of working and where roles can offer flexibility and benefits for workers and employers then this should be persued. Of course, those who are continually banging the drum hardest, which ranges from Viscount Rothermere's Daily Mail to Lord Sugar's Amsprop could, possibly of just maybe have a more vested financial interest...
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 14, 2022 11:29:23 GMT
Johnson's comments on working from home just emphasise why he is so feckless he is in everything he does. Most people working from home are way to busy to wonder around making brews and bothering cheese. Says much more about the man than it does about home workers. Maybe the answers to have those working from home to have webcams permanently on. If they’re working as hard as you say they’ve got nothing to hide so have the best of both worlds.
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 14, 2022 12:07:06 GMT
Johnson's comments on working from home just emphasise why he is so feckless he is in everything he does. Most people working from home are way to busy to wonder around making brews and bothering cheese. Says much more about the man than it does about home workers. Maybe the answers to have those working from home to have webcams permanently on. If they’re working as hard as you say they’ve got nothing to hide so have the best of both worlds. What is it you dont trust about the British worker?. If people are taking the piss wfh, then that just suggests poor mamangement to me. However I'd be up for it as long we get to have webcams in MPs private offices and in their consistuencies during the three months Parliament doesn't sit etc. What about Royals who benefit from the public purse? Can we film them to make sure they're grafting as well? WFH and hybrid working should be celebrated for those who want to take advantage. There is something very particular about the British psyche and relationship with work to suggest this is a bad thing.
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Post by essexstokey on May 14, 2022 12:07:47 GMT
working from home has major benefits for both if applied properly
Employees
less time spent commuting working in an relaxed environment tea on tap lol able to juggle other commitments fewer distractions
employers
less need for expensive large offices lower fuel costs happy relaxed workforce flexibility in staff ie being able to tap usually unusable talent like the disabled and those with family commitments fewer distractions
as long as the job is done and to a high standard who cares where its one we are living in an age of technology there is no need to do things the way we did in the past
but we should not look at one or the other there is an argument to say 2 days in and 3 days at home and using hot desks but this would not suite tory donor's who have a lot of money tied up in office space in the city of London
you also have a situation with homeworking it can be done anywhere and again tory housebuilders would hate this as London property prices would plummet
If the tories are so in favour of levelling up then they should be encouraging homeworking not trying to stop it
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Post by essexstokey on May 14, 2022 12:11:18 GMT
Rory Stewart is right, the poorest people need money for food, not lectures about cooking or ill-informed sneers about 'booze and fags' link
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 14, 2022 12:26:20 GMT
Maybe the answers to have those working from home to have webcams permanently on. If they’re working as hard as you say they’ve got nothing to hide so have the best of both worlds. What is it you dont trust about the British worker?. If people are taking the piss wfh, then that just suggests poor mamangement to me. However I'd be up for it as long we get to have webcams in MPs private offices and in their consistuencies during the three months Parliament doesn't sit etc. What about Royals who benefit from the public purse? Can we film them to make sure they're grafting as well? WFH and hybrid working should be celebrated for those who want to take advantage. There is something very particular about the British psyche and relationship with work to suggest this is a bad thing. I’ve done hybrid working and there’s some benefits to it however there’s nothing like doing face to face especially when it’s supporting people who need your help. I see people trying to justify why they’re trying to talk to someone vulnerable on teams and it sucks. I’ve also seen how working from home during lockdown has affected young childrens mental health due to not being in school with there friends. Surely they will take the lead from there parents and will think if they can do it why can’t I. There’s always going to be exceptions but that’s my experience and as I said it breeds animosity especially when you’ve got some one busting there arse either in the office or out and about and others being paid the same in the comfort of there own home where no one knows how little or how much they’re doing because you never hear from them. How do people meet and develop friendships now. Often the best friendships are built at work. The way it’s going everything will be virtual and we might as well be on a desert island. Where do people get there communication skills now when it’s all done on keyboard?
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 14, 2022 12:47:37 GMT
What is it you dont trust about the British worker?. If people are taking the piss wfh, then that just suggests poor mamangement to me. However I'd be up for it as long we get to have webcams in MPs private offices and in their consistuencies during the three months Parliament doesn't sit etc. What about Royals who benefit from the public purse? Can we film them to make sure they're grafting as well? WFH and hybrid working should be celebrated for those who want to take advantage. There is something very particular about the British psyche and relationship with work to suggest this is a bad thing. I’ve done hybrid working and there’s some benefits to it however there’s nothing like doing face to face especially when it’s supporting people who need your help. I see people trying to justify why they’re trying to talk to someone vulnerable on teams and it sucks. I’ve also seen how working from home during lockdown has affected young childrens mental health due to not being in school with there friends. Surely they will take the lead from there parents and will think if they can do it why can’t I. There’s always going to be exceptions but that’s my experience and as I said it breeds animosity especially when you’ve got some one busting there arse either in the office or out and about and others being paid the same in the comfort of there own home where no one knows how little or how much they’re doing because you never hear from them. How do people meet and develop friendships now. Often the best friendships are built at work. The way it’s going everything will be virtual and we might as well be on a desert island. Where do people get there communication skills now when it’s all done on keyboard? A piss taker will be a piss taker in the office or at home. I probably speak one on one and in groups to over 20 people every day I work from home so no isolation at all. I just don't get the onjections for those who want to do it.
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 14, 2022 12:53:40 GMT
I’ve done hybrid working and there’s some benefits to it however there’s nothing like doing face to face especially when it’s supporting people who need your help. I see people trying to justify why they’re trying to talk to someone vulnerable on teams and it sucks. I’ve also seen how working from home during lockdown has affected young childrens mental health due to not being in school with there friends. Surely they will take the lead from there parents and will think if they can do it why can’t I. There’s always going to be exceptions but that’s my experience and as I said it breeds animosity especially when you’ve got some one busting there arse either in the office or out and about and others being paid the same in the comfort of there own home where no one knows how little or how much they’re doing because you never hear from them. How do people meet and develop friendships now. Often the best friendships are built at work. The way it’s going everything will be virtual and we might as well be on a desert island. Where do people get there communication skills now when it’s all done on keyboard? A piss taker will be a piss taker in the office or at home. I probably speak one on one and in groups to over 20 people every day I work from home so no isolation at all. I just don't get the onjections for those who want to do it. it’s easier to whittle them out when they’re in the workplace though
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 14, 2022 13:57:55 GMT
I’ve done hybrid working and there’s some benefits to it however there’s nothing like doing face to face especially when it’s supporting people who need your help. I see people trying to justify why they’re trying to talk to someone vulnerable on teams and it sucks. I’ve also seen how working from home during lockdown has affected young childrens mental health due to not being in school with there friends. Surely they will take the lead from there parents and will think if they can do it why can’t I. There’s always going to be exceptions but that’s my experience and as I said it breeds animosity especially when you’ve got some one busting there arse either in the office or out and about and others being paid the same in the comfort of there own home where no one knows how little or how much they’re doing because you never hear from them. How do people meet and develop friendships now. Often the best friendships are built at work. The way it’s going everything will be virtual and we might as well be on a desert island. Where do people get there communication skills now when it’s all done on keyboard? A piss taker will be a piss taker in the office or at home. I probably speak one on one and in groups to over 20 people every day I work from home so no isolation at all. I just don't get the onjections for those who want to do it. Should be on the other thread, really... It's basically old-fashioned "presenteeism" and reluctance to embrace change. As you say, it's funny how the need to have webcams on so home-workers can be monitored constantly is mooted, while there isn't a similar approach suggested for making sure no-one is leaving their desk too frequently, or taking the piss while "present"... Any decent operation will have targets/objectives, whatever you want to call them. Provided a manager is doing their job, it's largely irrelevant how/where a team member meets their objectives. I've seen plenty of people turn up every day and do fuck all, others who do lots. It'll be just the same wfh. It's the individuals and their managers that count, not how/where you work. Thankfully, most employers are a lot more aware and open to this flexibility of working, which is why I asked the question originally about where this Tory/Tory press led campaign is coming from. I suspect it's little or nothing to do with the work itself and something else is driving it...
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 14, 2022 14:14:46 GMT
Meanwhile...
Today's DT: The pound is taking a tumble thanks to Johnson's failures
"The pound has been sinking like a stone against the American dollar since the start of the year, making imports more expensive, undermining confidence in the British economy, and adding to an already worrying cost of living crisis. The collapse in the value of the pound is a damning verdict on Boris Johnson's leadership, and that of his increasingly hapless chancellor, Rishi Sunak. A series of catastrophic policy mistakes mean the British economy is heading into the worst crisis it has faced in a long time - and we can no longer rule out that sterling will fall all the way to parity with the dollar for the first time in its history. In the space of the last month the pound has dropped from $1.31 to $1.22 and over the last year from $1.41. And it is still getting steadily weaker with every week that passes. The UK has put itself in a uniquely vulnerable position, and it has done so through poor leadership and a series of major policy blunders. Our departure from the EU has worsened the trade deficit at precisely the wrong moment. It hit £278bn in the first quarter of the year, the highest figure on record and equivalent to 1.8% of GDP. "In our view, this is a big enough deficit to merit concern about the stability of sterling," argued High Frequency Economics in a note this week. Unfortunately, that is true. We could have mitigated the impact of Brexit with a number of radical policies to dramatically improve our competitiveness. Instead we left everything as it is, and put up some trade barriers, so we can hardly be surprised if the trade balance has worsened. A weaker currency is going to further increase the price of everything we import, making the cost of living crisis even worse than it otherwise would be. It is going to undermine the confidence of the global markets. And it will make British industry vulnerable to takeovers at a time when it should be trying to strengthen its position in the world. The pound may survive without hitting parity, but it is definitely about to hit all-time lows. And if it does go to the humiliating level of one to one with the dollar, the lowest in its history, it will be a further damning verdict on Johnson's increasingly dismal premiership".
Wow. Don't see that very often in the Telegraph, although the Business section is a lot more realistic than the propaganda sheet that the rest of it largely remains.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on May 14, 2022 14:41:26 GMT
A piss taker will be a piss taker in the office or at home. I probably speak one on one and in groups to over 20 people every day I work from home so no isolation at all. I just don't get the onjections for those who want to do it. it’s easier to whittle them out when they’re in the workplace though Quite simply not true mate. As productivity would be easily monitored it would be easy to spot someone "taking the piss".
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Post by cobhamstokey on May 14, 2022 15:37:38 GMT
it’s easier to whittle them out when they’re in the workplace though Quite simply not true mate. As productivity would be easily monitored it would be easy to spot someone "taking the piss". I guess it depends what the job is some things are more difficult to measure than others. It also depends on how things are measured. For example could someone cram everything into the morning and have an easy afternoon does that mean they’re utilising themselves to the max?
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Post by dutchstokie on May 14, 2022 18:06:21 GMT
No apology from Boris Johnson after Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe tells him she lived in ‘shadow of his words’ linkNor should he ….
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Post by thewonderstuff on May 14, 2022 18:14:25 GMT
No apology from Boris Johnson after Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe tells him she lived in ‘shadow of his words’ linkNor should he …. 100%. He doesn't give a fuck about her, her suffering or his role in it. No need to apologise at all in those circumstances.
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Post by followyoudown on May 15, 2022 8:32:23 GMT
100%. He doesn't give a fuck about her, her suffering or his role in it. No need to apologise at all in those circumstances. Pretty sure it was Iran who took her hostage not Boris.
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Post by followyoudown on May 15, 2022 8:33:22 GMT
No apology from Boris Johnson after Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe tells him she lived in ‘shadow of his words’ linkNor should he …. Her local MP is a charmer very concerned about brits held abroad well unless its her aunt holding them.....
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Post by oggyoggy on May 15, 2022 9:03:11 GMT
100%. He doesn't give a fuck about her, her suffering or his role in it. No need to apologise at all in those circumstances. Pretty sure it was Iran who took her hostage not Boris. It was. But after Johnson said (incorrectly) she was training journalists there, Iran arranged an immediate court hearing, quoting Johnson as evidence she was a spy. So as Foreign Secretary, he didn’t really do very much to help her plight. In fact, he made it worse with clumsy and incorrect comments. Very much his forte. He did eventually apologise for making those comments. He should have been big enough to apologise to her face also. But he is the smallest of people and he doesn’t care about anyone but himself.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 15, 2022 9:03:57 GMT
Her local MP is a charmer very concerned about brits held abroad well unless its her aunt holding them..... He's not British... He's a Bangladeshi lawyer being held by the Bangladeshi government. That isn't good if he's done nothing wrong, but to try to smear Siddiq with this is a bit of a stretch! Meanwhile, if the photo below is anything to go by, Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe's response to her MP Siddiq's efforts to get her freed appears to be somewhat different to her response to Bozo's contribution, which was little more than "have a few more years in jail"...
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Post by essexstokey on May 15, 2022 9:15:27 GMT
100%. He doesn't give a fuck about her, her suffering or his role in it. No need to apologise at all in those circumstances. Pretty sure it was Iran who took her hostage not Boris. No boris made numerous gaffes giving Iran evidence to charge her with more and keep the excuse going
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Post by essexstokey on May 15, 2022 9:26:17 GMT
Of course I forgot the usuall joke of a Tory apologist would try and deflect what his feurer did like allways
It's so plainly obvious now to everyone you defend the indefensible usually with half truths or slander then when caught out revert to personal abuse
That's why you can't trust a Tory
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Post by followyoudown on May 15, 2022 9:41:14 GMT
Pretty sure it was Iran who took her hostage not Boris. It was. But after Johnson said (incorrectly) she was training journalists there, Iran arranged an immediate court hearing, quoting Johnson as evidence she was a spy. So as Foreign Secretary, he didn’t really do very much to help her plight. In fact, he made it worse with clumsy and incorrect comments. Very much his forte. He did eventually apologise for making those comments. He should have been big enough to apologise to her face also. But he is the smallest of people and he doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He didn't make it worse she was not getting released until Iran got its money for hostages, the pretence that anything said made the slightest bit of difference is laughable.
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Post by followyoudown on May 15, 2022 9:43:44 GMT
Of course I forgot the usuall joke of a Tory apologist would try and deflect what his feurer did like allways It's so plainly obvious now to everyone you defend the indefensible usually with half truths or slander then when caught out revert to personal abuse That's why you can't trust a Tory Its quite funny how you complain about abuse and name calling whilst indulging in abuse and name calling.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 15, 2022 9:54:15 GMT
It was. But after Johnson said (incorrectly) she was training journalists there, Iran arranged an immediate court hearing, quoting Johnson as evidence she was a spy. So as Foreign Secretary, he didn’t really do very much to help her plight. In fact, he made it worse with clumsy and incorrect comments. Very much his forte. He did eventually apologise for making those comments. He should have been big enough to apologise to her face also. But he is the smallest of people and he doesn’t care about anyone but himself. He didn't make it worse she was not getting released until Iran got its money for hostages, the pretence that anything said made the slightest bit of difference is laughable. I suppose you know more than Zaghari-Ratcliffe about it. It is amazing that you were present at the Iranian court hearing. She must have misremembered it.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 15, 2022 12:14:54 GMT
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