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Post by foster on Jan 13, 2021 13:02:05 GMT
The fact that we're even discussing food parcels vs vouchers is a joke in itself.
How the fuck poverty like this is prevalent in the UK takes the piss.
No one in the UK should have to rely on food handouts other than the homeless.
Again, the focus is on a quick fix rather than looking at the source of the issue.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 13, 2021 13:33:20 GMT
The fact that we're even discussing food parcels vs vouchers is a joke in itself. How the fuck poverty like this is prevalent in the UK takes the piss. No one in the UK should have to rely on food handouts other than the homeless. Again, the focus is on a quick fix rather than looking at the source of the issue. They shouldn't spend it all on smartphones, fags, booze and SKY subscriptions then. I just thought I'd get that in first save the usual suspects a job....... |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 13, 2021 13:40:36 GMT
MMM the old don't give them money, they'll spend it on Vodka approach to poverty. QED Let's ignore the main issue and concentrate on a few individual anecdotal examples, classic deflection tactics...... |
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 13, 2021 13:57:08 GMT
Let's not forget with this government only conservative lives matter!
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 13, 2021 14:01:36 GMT
I’m more interested to know why food parcels are needed in the first place when we have a welfare system which provides benefits and tax credits.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 13, 2021 14:07:55 GMT
I’m more interested to know why food parcels are needed in the first place when we have a welfare system which provides benefits and tax credits. You know the answer don't you? |
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Post by foster on Jan 13, 2021 14:22:24 GMT
I’m more interested to know why food parcels are needed in the first place when we have a welfare system which provides benefits and tax credits. You know the answer don't you? Food parcels for kids at school in the UK...It's both a national shame and scandal. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 13, 2021 15:44:24 GMT
I’m more interested to know why food parcels are needed in the first place when we have a welfare system which provides benefits and tax credits. Indeed so, and an economy which is set up to encourage entrepreneurialism and everyone benefitting from a trickle down of the profits generated from such an approach... ...almost like the whole thing isn't working too well... |
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 13, 2021 16:02:37 GMT
I see Chartwells have issued a further communication.
It’s as unsatisfactory as the first one in explaining what went wrong. It’s beginning to look a lot like they are taking the piss.
I reckon Marcus Rashford should suspend their membership of his Poverty Task Force pending their own investigation into this matter.
Meanwhile the Government should accelerate its own investigation with the intention of bringing criminal charges if appropriate.
Btw - lots of concerns over social media, but this is one area it serves a huge good; exposing bad practice of businesses.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 13, 2021 16:04:34 GMT
I see Chartwells have issued a further communication. It’s as unsatisfactory as the first one in explaining what went wrong. It’s beginning to look a lot like they are taking the piss. I reckon Marcus Rashford should suspend their membership of his Poverty Task Force pending their own investigation into this matter. Meanwhile the Government should accelerate its own investigation with the intention of bringing criminal charges if appropriate. Btw - lots of concerns over social media, but this is one area it serves a huge good; exposing bad practice of businesses. They've been caught out basically. They won't even release what their standard "hampers" should consist of, it's currently all smoke and mirrors...... |
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 13, 2021 16:17:08 GMT
I see Chartwells have issued a further communication. It’s as unsatisfactory as the first one in explaining what went wrong. It’s beginning to look a lot like they are taking the piss. I reckon Marcus Rashford should suspend their membership of his Poverty Task Force pending their own investigation into this matter. Meanwhile the Government should accelerate its own investigation with the intention of bringing criminal charges if appropriate. Btw - lots of concerns over social media, but this is one area it serves a huge good; exposing bad practice of businesses. They've been caught out basically. They won't even release what their standard "hampers" should consist of, it's currently all smoke and mirrors...... Certainly looks that way. Their two formal responses so far are pitiful. |
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Post by Rick Grimes on Jan 13, 2021 16:26:41 GMT
I’m more interested to know why food parcels are needed in the first place when we have a welfare system which provides benefits and tax credits. You know the answer don't you? My basic assumption would be that the benefits being provided by the government are falling short. I’m sure the actual answer is more complicated though. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 13, 2021 16:53:33 GMT
Watching Bluffer in front of the Liaison Committee now really does expose the myth of his elevated intellect. He is far less briefed and far less able to think on his feet than literally everyone else on the Committee.
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 13, 2021 20:02:47 GMT
They've been caught out basically. They won't even release what their standard "hampers" should consist of, it's currently all smoke and mirrors...... Certainly looks that way. Their two formal responses so far are pitiful. There are other examples around the net but it seems to be missing eggs, 2 lots of meat of some kind and some milk and some quantities of fruit. It's also probably fair to point out these companies had to switch from providing hot meals to packed lunches / prepare at home meals literally overnight if they dont correct it going forward it will be all over the internet and the schools and local authorities who choose them can presumably use vouchers or other suppliers. |
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 13, 2021 20:26:54 GMT
Certainly looks that way. Their two formal responses so far are pitiful. There are other examples around the net but it seems to be missing eggs, 2 lots of meat of some kind and some milk and some quantities of fruit. It's also probably fair to point out these companies had to switch from providing hot meals to packed lunches / prepare at home meals literally overnight if they dont correct it going forward it will be all over the internet and the schools and local authorities who choose them can presumably use vouchers or other suppliers. Which begs the question why can’t Chartwells explain this themselves. |
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 13, 2021 23:49:02 GMT
There are other examples around the net but it seems to be missing eggs, 2 lots of meat of some kind and some milk and some quantities of fruit. It's also probably fair to point out these companies had to switch from providing hot meals to packed lunches / prepare at home meals literally overnight if they dont correct it going forward it will be all over the internet and the schools and local authorities who choose them can presumably use vouchers or other suppliers. Which begs the question why can’t Chartwells explain this themselves. I had a quick look on their twitter they mention the make up of the boxes on there and added the below tweet saying they will add in breakfast, why they haven't responded I don't know I could guess that they probably decided there is no point rebutting too many people like momo jumped in head first, still people responding to them saying tory cronies, wheres the rest of the food for £30 blah blah |
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 14, 2021 1:10:43 GMT
Which begs the question why can’t Chartwells explain this themselves. I had a quick look on their twitter they mention the make up of the boxes on there and added the below tweet saying they will add in breakfast, why they haven't responded I don't know I could guess that they probably decided there is no point rebutting too many people like momo jumped in head first, still people responding to them saying tory cronies, wheres the rest of the food for £30 blah blah They are being spectacularly evasive. If you look at their web site or Twitter home you’ll see they are quite a smooth PR operation - well you’d think so. But it doesn’t take a genius in PR to figure out how to reply to this charge - tweet a picture (in the best possible light) of the specified contents of the package the child was supposed to receive (I assume they have a specification) and say they are investigating why their process wasn’t followed. The fact they haven’t done this suggests all sorts of bad things. It’s still within their power to fix this, but they are failing the test currently. |
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Post by essexstokey on Jan 14, 2021 8:18:09 GMT
As i tried to make the point on the £5 school meal challenge thread just give a 5 or 10 food voucher each week with a guidance letter on what to buy
Cut out the middle man that's charging packing and delivery charges
But the government won't do this as every Tory bung counts
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 14, 2021 9:12:52 GMT
As i tried to make the point on the £5 school meal challenge thread just give a 5 or 10 food voucher each week with a guidance letter on what to buy Cut out the middle man that's charging packing and delivery charges But the government won't do this as every Tory bung counts This is a good idea. It’s a shame that each case can’t be heard individually though as there’s some that need the vouchers as replacements for the benefits they’re already getting and not additionally. I know a lady that gets 2k a month in benefits because she has 6 kids. How is that fair? Especially now if she gets another 240 pound in vouchers. |
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 14, 2021 9:48:58 GMT
As i tried to make the point on the £5 school meal challenge thread just give a 5 or 10 food voucher each week with a guidance letter on what to buy Cut out the middle man that's charging packing and delivery charges But the government won't do this as every Tory bung counts Absolute bollocks it’s schools and local run councils who chose who they use to provide school meals not the government But don’t let that spoil your agenda There’s plenty of blame to be placed at the governments door but this isn’t one of them |
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 14, 2021 11:07:49 GMT
As i tried to make the point on the £5 school meal challenge thread just give a 5 or 10 food voucher each week with a guidance letter on what to buy Cut out the middle man that's charging packing and delivery charges But the government won't do this as every Tory bung counts Councils and local schools decide on vouchers or boxes if its boxes they use their own school caterers the one in question is a labour authority who choose chartwells but dont let the facts get in the way of your one eyed arguments. |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jan 14, 2021 11:49:38 GMT
The fact that we're even discussing food parcels vs vouchers is a joke in itself. How the fuck poverty like this is prevalent in the UK takes the piss. No one in the UK should have to rely on food handouts other than the homeless. Again, the focus is on a quick fix rather than looking at the source of the issue. I do think in a lot of cases (not all) it’s the mismanagement of money by those on benefits and not the fact that they don’t have the money to get food. There needs to be more coupons and less cash given to people on benefits so that it’s spent correctly and not wasted on luxury items. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 14, 2021 12:51:20 GMT
Not quite sure I understand where Biffer comes from? Why not Biffo as in Biffo the Bear from the Dandy? Or is that not permissible because Biffo was brown-skinned and so is Patel? God, it's a minefield this, isn't it! I'm sure the Express can be wheeled out in the next few days with a headline saying how well 'Priti' is doing...!  |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 14, 2021 14:09:02 GMT
Why don't these people just sell their smart phones or something?
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Post by crapslinger on Jan 14, 2021 14:09:37 GMT
Not quite sure I understand where Biffer comes from? Why not Biffo as in Biffo the Bear from the Dandy? Or is that not permissible because Biffo was brown-skinned and so is Patel? God, it's a minefield this, isn't it! I'm sure the Express can be wheeled out in the next few days with a headline saying how well 'Priti' is doing...! The Daily Star  I sort of expected that from Joey oh dear the sound of the bottom of the barrel been scraped. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 14, 2021 14:14:43 GMT
Why don't these people just sell their smart phones or something? And so the dance begins. I wonder if that's why they only give them half a tomato because they'll trade the other half for Monkey Dust? |
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Post by mattyd2 on Jan 14, 2021 14:30:05 GMT
As i tried to make the point on the £5 school meal challenge thread just give a 5 or 10 food voucher each week with a guidance letter on what to buy Cut out the middle man that's charging packing and delivery charges But the government won't do this as every Tory bung counts Cut out the middle man to save on packing and delivery charges. So drink milk straight from the udder then, and gather eggs from a chicken coop. Great idea Joey. |
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Post by mattyd2 on Jan 14, 2021 14:36:21 GMT
As i tried to make the point on the £5 school meal challenge thread just give a 5 or 10 food voucher each week with a guidance letter on what to buy Cut out the middle man that's charging packing and delivery charges But the government won't do this as every Tory bung counts Councils and local schools decide on vouchers or boxes if its boxes they use their own school caterers the one in question is a labour authority who choose chartwells but dont let the facts get in the way of your one eyed arguments. This week I have been delivering free school meals to kids that are not at school, and these have been prepared in the school canteen, however as of Monday they are getting vouchers instead. Personally I think this is a shocking decision as some of the folk I have been delivering to seem incapable of shopping for nutritious and healthy food, and would opt for frozen pizza and chips instead. Luckily they cant use the vouchers for fags, as I know a lot of them would. |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 14, 2021 14:40:46 GMT
Councils and local schools decide on vouchers or boxes if its boxes they use their own school caterers the one in question is a labour authority who choose chartwells but dont let the facts get in the way of your one eyed arguments. This week I have been delivering free school meals to kids that are not at school, and these have been prepared in the school canteen, however as of Monday they are getting vouchers instead. Personally I think this is a shocking decision as some of the folk I have been delivering to seem incapable of shopping for nutritious and healthy food, and would opt for frozen pizza and chips instead. Luckily they cant use the vouchers for fags, as I know a lot of them would. For a delivery driver you seemed to have gained a real insight into the lives of these people, do you take a questionnaire with you? |
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Post by dutchstokie on Jan 14, 2021 14:41:05 GMT
Why don't these people just sell their smart phones or something? And so the dance begins. I wonder if that's why they only give them half a tomato because they'll trade the other half for Monkey Dust? Tomato Lives Matter......  |
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I sort of expected that from Joey oh dear the sound of the bottom of the barrel been scraped.
