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Post by bigvigs on Oct 11, 2017 11:50:59 GMT
Just announced. A league competition for the 55 National teams in Europe:
The format of the UEFA Nations League will feature promotion and relegation and see the 55 European national teams divided into four leagues in accordance with UEFA’s national association coefficient rankings on 11 October 2017.
League A will include the top-ranked sides and League D will include the lowest.
Leagues A and B will consist of four groups of three teams
League C will comprise one group of three teams and three groups of four sides
League D will be formed by four groups of four teams
The League Phase Draw for the UEFA Nations League will take place at the SwissTech Convention Centre in Lausanne on 24 January 2018.
In each league, four group winners are promoted (or play in the Finals, see below) and four teams are relegated for the next competition to be played in 2020
The overall UEFA Nations League rankings will determine the composition of the draw pots for the subsequent European Qualifiers
In addition, the UEFA Nations League will provide teams with another chance to qualify for the UEFA EURO final tournament, with four sides qualifying through play-off matches which take place in March 2020
The UEFA Nations League group games will be held over six matchdays, during the 'double-headers' in September, October and November 2018. The UEFA Nations League Finals competition for the teams that win the four groups within the top division is scheduled for June 2019.
For the UEFA Nations League Finals, the group winners of UEFA Nations League A will play in a knockout format (semi-finals, third-place match and final) in June 2019 to become the UEFA Nations League winners. One host country will be appointed by the UEFA Executive Committee in December 2018 from among the finalist teams.
The play-off matches will be staged in March 2020
England are in League 1, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland in League 2, and |Scotland with the big boys in League 3
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 11, 2017 11:59:15 GMT
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 11, 2017 11:59:26 GMT
Is this replacing the Euros?
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Post by Northy on Oct 11, 2017 12:03:07 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 11, 2017 12:03:15 GMT
Has a psychopath devised that format?
And I assume this is in addition to the euros and qualifiers?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 12:05:28 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 11, 2017 12:10:01 GMT
This International league has been on Football Manager for a couple of seasons so therefore I'm an expert and can tell you it's just going to mean England losing to all the best teams in Europe before getting "relegated" to a league where we'll win every game and get promoted. This cycle will be then repeated for years.
In a nutshell, it's to make friendlies more meaningful.. apparently.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 11, 2017 12:20:30 GMT
This SHOULD replace Euro Championship qualifiers?
Leagues A and B will get automatic qualification to the finals?
It just means more meaningful games in the intervening years.
It means increased competition for everyone so it could be a good thing. But it seems they will still have to happen.
So just more games in the end??
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Post by kustokie on Oct 11, 2017 12:39:00 GMT
This is a model for club football, which will replace the national leagues in a few years. Mark my words, it's coming!
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Post by ladyinred on Oct 11, 2017 12:43:26 GMT
I presume this will remove/reduce opportunity for non-European friendlies as there will be no room left in the calendar. So friendlies against the like of Chile/Brazil/Argentina/Mexico/Australia will become a rarity
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Post by walrus on Oct 11, 2017 13:32:52 GMT
Is this replacing the Euros? Not at all. It's primarily serving as a precursor to Euros qualification and facilitates more competitive international football at times when there would typically not have been qualification matches to play (such as late 2018, after the World Cup's over but before Euro 2020 qualifying starts in earnest). I quite like the idea. I would have liked to see a rule along the lines of "you must have at least five under 23s in the side" though.
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Post by werrington on Oct 11, 2017 16:23:17 GMT
Is this replacing the Euros? Not at all. It's primarily serving as a precursor to Euros qualification and facilitates more competitive international football at times when there would typically not have been qualification matches to play (such as late 2018, after the World Cup's over but before Euro 2020 qualifying starts in earnest). I quite like the idea. I would have liked to see a rule along the lines of "you must have at least five under 23s in the side" though. The World Cup final/Euro final finishes in July and qualifying for the next tournament starts in the September...it’s always been like that There is no gap in that regard ....the only gap in reality is like now when there’s no meaningful game until the start of the World Cup
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 11, 2017 17:01:17 GMT
This is a model for club football, which will replace the national leagues in a few years. Mark my words, it's coming! I think you are right, so who will we be competing with in our division? We will only play the likes of Man Utd if we get through preliminary stages of a cup and then because they will be seeded to play lower teams like us.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 17:21:12 GMT
Is this replacing the Euros? An attempt to replace club football?
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Post by jezzascfc on Oct 11, 2017 17:23:30 GMT
I read the explanation three times and still couldn't understand it! I think it is a pre-cursor to Euro qualifying and a sop to the bigger nations, who get to play each other up front in glamour "almost" friendlies before they have to suffer the real grind of qualifying.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 17:55:52 GMT
I think it is a good idea.
They are not friendlies, they are competitive games that will have a baring on rankings at uefa and fifa level. They will determine seedings in the qualifiers, they offer a chance of qualifying if you are in league A, and a mini tournament if we win the mini group.
It will give England far more practice in playing proper games. It could really help.
I'm all for it. This qualifying campaign has been a total waste and we will pay for it next summer
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 11, 2017 18:24:50 GMT
Still not that clued up on it but if it means more competitive games against decent opposition rather than listless, pointless friendlies where forty-odd players take to the field it sounds like a reasonable idea to me.
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Post by samba :) on Oct 11, 2017 18:31:37 GMT
I like the idea, took a while to understand however
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Post by spiderpuss on Oct 11, 2017 18:55:41 GMT
I presume this will remove/reduce opportunity for non-European friendlies as there will be no room left in the calendar. So friendlies against the like of Chile/Brazil/Argentina/Mexico/Australia will become a rarity Think that's the idea, no more friendlies. On one hand no more "who cares" games against Ireland, Norway and Trindad and Tobago. However little or no chance to practice against the leading South American lights. Not sure what to make of it at the moment, seems overly complex.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 19:42:00 GMT
I think it is a good idea. They are not friendlies, they are competitive games that will have a baring on rankings at uefa and fifa level. They will determine seedings in the qualifiers, they offer a chance of qualifying if you are in league A, and a mini tournament if we win the mini group. It will give England far more practice in playing proper games. It could really help. I'm all for it. This qualifying campaign has been a total waste and we will pay for it next summer Just read it again and it seems that there are play offs for each league so a team from each league will get the last four qualification spots. So in each league there is an incentive to win your group then get experience of knock out play off football. Definitely good for England, there will be no hiding place when we have to play 6 games against top level european teams after the world cup.
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Post by innocentbystander on Oct 11, 2017 19:47:36 GMT
I haven't bothered trying to understand it - we all know that the sole intention is sell more TV rights and screw more money out of fans. Sod the sport.
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Post by norman conquest on Oct 11, 2017 20:37:56 GMT
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Post by woodstein on Oct 11, 2017 21:27:30 GMT
Yes, a bit confusing but better than crap friendlies. But they need to make England play around the country more as Wembley appeared sparse last couple of games.
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Post by samba :) on Oct 11, 2017 21:30:42 GMT
I haven't bothered trying to understand it - we all know that the sole intention is sell more TV rights and screw more money out of fans. Sod the sport. no the idea is to make it more exciting for the fans so they are always watching competetive games begween the best teams in europe
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2017 21:48:45 GMT
I haven't bothered trying to understand it - we all know that the sole intention is sell more TV rights and screw more money out of fans. Sod the sport. Read it and you’ll actually see it’s trying to make things more exciting for fans... Best case scenario, England do well, host the likes of France, Germany, Spain in a knockout. Even if we didn’t host it, I’d travel 2 hours on a plane to see the finals, atmosphere would be electric.
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Post by StoKeith on Oct 11, 2017 21:50:28 GMT
Sounds like a good idea and should make international football a bit more interesting!
So here are the "League A" teams:
Germany Portugal Belgium Spain France England Switzerland Italy Poland Iceland Croatia Netherlands
It will be tough to get direct qualification from amongst that lot. Oddly, being relegated will have its rewards as each tier gets one automatic qualifying spot. That means one of this lot will DEFINITELY be at Euro 2020:
Azerbaijan Macedonia Belarus Georgia Armenia Latvia Faroe Islands Luxembourg Kazakhstan Moldova Liechtenstein Malta Andorra Kosovo San Marino Gibraltar
It'll be nice for them to have a genuine chance of qualifying* and have some more wins than they'd be used to.
* I'm aware Latvia qualified in 2004
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 11, 2017 21:50:51 GMT
Seems like a good idea on paper.
Let's see how it goes in practise.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Oct 12, 2017 7:20:53 GMT
An actual half decent idea for a change.
About time.
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Post by nott1 on Oct 12, 2017 7:28:02 GMT
Multiple International breaks? More injured players?
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Post by samba :) on Oct 12, 2017 7:32:05 GMT
Multiple International breaks? More injured players? no the same number, no friendlies at a hope/guess
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