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Post by tomcmod on Sept 24, 2017 7:15:25 GMT
Talksport said he should have been sent off tonight. Ref got it wrong. Conte dragged him off. He knew he was lucky. He took him off for different reasons apparently. Cahill more suited to defend against Crouch. He's a bad liar Conte. As soon as Alonso wasn't sent off for the tackle on Diouf he turned to Cahill and told him get ready. Also Cahill was more suited to defend against a player on the bench?
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Post by superheroantonius on Sept 24, 2017 7:25:16 GMT
The only player we had who was too quick for them was Diouf
So alonso decked him
Appalling decision from the ref,to bend over backwards to keep their lad on the pitch after blatant dangerous play.
As a team, we should make a massive issue of it at the time. Likewise with bailly and shaq v man utd. Otherwise we are literally encouraging the opposition to take liberties
The ref needs to know if he bottles it at stoke, all eleven stoke players will kick off about it and it will be the main talking point on motd and in the Sunday papers.
Lets see how keen he is to sit on the fence then?
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Post by mrred on Sept 24, 2017 11:15:04 GMT
Just reiterated on Talk sport that he should of walked.
Mike Dean is one of the biggest cunt in football, which is some achievement. I hope a ball is kicked with speed and force square at his single bollock.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2017 11:21:51 GMT
Just for a moment there, it looked like you were the sort of negative person who really, really wants Stoke to do badly for some reason. Tbf they should have had 3 penos. But that makes it all the more better! 😂😂
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Post by alster on Sept 24, 2017 11:25:35 GMT
I'd lean towards saying nobody should have been sent off in the game. Problem is the one he didn't give is probably the most deserving of a yellow. For me they get dished out for next to nothing and that creates the problem of inconsistency far too many bookings in games where a free kick would suffice.
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Post by stokie1954 on Sept 24, 2017 14:37:14 GMT
True to form we get hammered and the ref gets blamed! Short memories some people have. One win all season and we got lucky when some decisions went for us. Nobody seemed to mention the ref that day. Alonso should have gone, yes, but the result would have been the same. Direct your gripes closer to home peeps!!.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Sept 24, 2017 14:42:31 GMT
If he'd walked would we have still lost? My opinion this was the worst refereeing decision of the season in the Prem - was a definite red if a Stoke player had done the same fouls. A definite red at Stamford Bridge. A definite red unless you're a top 5 team, then the referee thinks twice. The first thought is that it is a booking, then the second thought is well it's Chelsea! Still think we'd have lost but maybe would have pulled one back. 2-1. Bet on MOTD they gloss over it or hardly mention it! He could have been booked on 3 separate occasions after his initial yellow. Twice for kicking/throwing the ball away and once for the foul on Diouf which was worse than the one he was actually booked for. Yet there was never a possibility that Dean wouldn't give him "the benefit of the doubt". Remember Whelan away at Newcastle a few years back? They couldn't wait to send him off! Cowardly bastards.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Sept 24, 2017 14:45:07 GMT
Just proved that refs decisions DO go in favour of the bigger club.... I seriously believe that had it have been a Stoke player Dean would have had no hesitation but to bring the red card out, he did it for fun a few seasons back against 'castle!!!
I can imagine Dean's "hand" was itching to grab the red card out.....but his "mind" kept saying, "it's Chelsea...it's Chelsea...it's Chelsea..." You could almost see a bead of sweat trickle from his forehead as he struggled with mind over hand!!!
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Post by kustokie on Sept 24, 2017 14:45:36 GMT
The question of whether Alonso getting a second yellow would have affected the result should not come into the referee's decision. But you have to think it probably did. It was a clear yellow card and he should have walked. End of discussion.
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Post by Davef on Sept 24, 2017 14:48:38 GMT
This smacks of Danny rose a few seasons back.... 😤 And Gary Neville against Man Utd and Victor Wanyama against Spurs. Anyone spot the trend?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2017 14:52:41 GMT
Red and then a knighthood.
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Post by PenkPonther on Sept 24, 2017 16:09:19 GMT
There's no doubt Alonso was walking a tightrope between getting a second booking or not, more than once. And his manager cleverly hooked him off, to avoid it happening. But with the foul on Diouf, I had a decent view, and it seemed from my angle that at the last moment Diouf cleverly threw himself into harms way, to shield Alonso from getting to the ball. And Alonso's challenge ended up looking a bit nastier than it actually was. Sure I was baying for a card at the time, like everyone else, but I've seen them given and I've seen them not. So I wasn't in an apoplectic state of rage when no card materialised.
As for Crouch's foul though, it looked a straight red at the time, and the replay above confirms it (particularly the angle shown at 23 seconds in).
Anyway, it's a game of opinions and all that.
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Post by Davef on Sept 24, 2017 16:12:12 GMT
I think had Alonso been sent off, Crouch would’ve had a straight red. Dean does have a habit of trying to even things up when he makes a dodgy decision.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 24, 2017 16:35:23 GMT
When was the crouch challenge? I have no recollection of that at all
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Post by werrington on Sept 24, 2017 16:37:09 GMT
When was the crouch challenge? I have no recollection of that at all 88 mins ...it's on a few posts up
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2017 16:38:13 GMT
When was the crouch challenge? I have no recollection of that at all 90thish minute. It looked horrible at the time. It was. He couldn't have studded a nicer cunt.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 24, 2017 16:38:38 GMT
Only just seen the Crouch challenge😮fuck me it was bad but Dean owed us one that's for sure
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 24, 2017 16:41:06 GMT
When was the crouch challenge? I have no recollection of that at all 88 mins ...it's on a few posts up Video won't play on my phone. Who was it on? Fibreglass hopefully? That explains why I can't remember it...I'd gone by the 88th minute.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 24, 2017 16:44:35 GMT
Lady Luck balances out today we got some against Arsenal but not today . And what luck did you think we got against Arsenal? A correct offside decision? They should have had 2 penos for a start.
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Post by werrington on Sept 24, 2017 16:48:21 GMT
88 mins ...it's on a few posts up Video won't play on my phone. Who was it on? Fibreglass hopefully? That explains why I can't remember it...I'd gone by the 88th minute. Yeah mate ...just below the knee I'd gone meself 😊
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 24, 2017 16:55:27 GMT
Video won't play on my phone. Who was it on? Fibreglass hopefully? That explains why I can't remember it...I'd gone by the 88th minute. Yeah mate ...just below the knee I'd gone meself 😊 After his goal v man city, arguably his greatest moment in a stoke shirt then
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Post by greyman on Sept 24, 2017 19:18:24 GMT
And what luck did you think we got against Arsenal? A correct offside decision? They should have had 2 penos for a start. The important thing is we always should moan about what the opposition may or may not have got. Hopefully Stoke will be relegated soon and then a few people can have their moment. Some people won't be happy till it happens then they can crow about it.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2017 19:56:30 GMT
They should have had 2 penos for a start. The important thing is we always should moan about what the opposition may or may not have got. Hopefully Stoke will be relegated soon and then a few people can have their moment. Some people won't be happy till it happens then they can crow about it. Moaning about it? It's just being honest.
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Sept 24, 2017 20:00:27 GMT
True to form we get hammered and the ref gets blamed! Short memories some people have. One win all season and we got lucky when some decisions went for us. Nobody seemed to mention the ref that day. Alonso should have gone, yes, but the result would have been the same. Direct your gripes closer to home peeps!!. Yes, like Arsenal and off-sides, time to move on.
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Post by 3putts on Sept 24, 2017 20:56:24 GMT
And what luck did you think we got against Arsenal? A correct offside decision? They should have had 2 penos for a start. two penalties for what? ffs
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Post by 3putts on Sept 24, 2017 20:58:23 GMT
True to form we get hammered and the ref gets blamed! Short memories some people have. One win all season and we got lucky when some decisions went for us. Nobody seemed to mention the ref that day. Alonso should have gone, yes, but the result would have been the same. Direct your gripes closer to home peeps!!. how can you say that a sending off would not alter the result? having a man extra for 30 mins would have given us a chance iam sure but we will never know because mike dean is a cunt and has cheated us AGAIN
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 24, 2017 21:09:34 GMT
They should have had 2 penos for a start. two penalties for what? ffs You are kidding right, Diouf went straight through their man in the area.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 24, 2017 21:11:10 GMT
They should have had 2 penos for a start. The important thing is we always should moan about what the opposition may or may not have got. Hopefully Stoke will be relegated soon and then a few people can have their moment. Some people won't be happy till it happens then they can crow about it. You asked the question, it was answered, if the ref had done his job they'd have got two pens, its got fuck all to do with wanted to be relegated blah blah blah.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2017 21:11:18 GMT
two penalties for what? ffs You are kidding right, Diouf went straight through their man in the area. Twice 😂👍
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Post by greyman on Sept 25, 2017 0:54:21 GMT
The important thing is we always should moan about what the opposition may or may not have got. Hopefully Stoke will be relegated soon and then a few people can have their moment. Some people won't be happy till it happens then they can crow about it. You asked the question, it was answered, if the ref had done his job they'd have got two pens, its got fuck all to do with wanted to be relegated blah blah blah. It's got everything to do with that. Even when we win, people like you moan. Because you want the club to fail. There is no other explanation for it.
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