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Post by starkiller on Aug 2, 2017 19:16:32 GMT
Round up and deport all illegal immigrants simple. I agree we should crack down on illegal immigration. But here is the big headline news (wait for it leave voters, because you have been lied to again by your precious Breitbart etc).......... illegal immigration has nothing to do with the EU. EU migration is legal. Illegal immigrants come from outside of the EU. Brexit will not have an impact on illegal immigration. If we want to cut legal immigration why don't we stop the people we can control right now and have always been able to control - the non EU migrants. Until 2016 every single year there were more non-EU migrants who moved here than EU migrants who came here under the free moment rules. So immigration will not go down unless our government decides to put controls in place. They clearly don't want to because it benefits our economy. Don't worry though, brexit will destroy our economy and there will be fewer jobs so fewer immigrants will want to come here. You do know most non-EU migrants come via the EU ?
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 2, 2017 19:22:15 GMT
I agree we should crack down on illegal immigration. But here is the big headline news (wait for it leave voters, because you have been lied to again by your precious Breitbart etc).......... illegal immigration has nothing to do with the EU. EU migration is legal. Illegal immigrants come from outside of the EU. Brexit will not have an impact on illegal immigration. If we want to cut legal immigration why don't we stop the people we can control right now and have always been able to control - the non EU migrants. Until 2016 every single year there were more non-EU migrants who moved here than EU migrants who came here under the free moment rules. So immigration will not go down unless our government decides to put controls in place. They clearly don't want to because it benefits our economy. Don't worry though, brexit will destroy our economy and there will be fewer jobs so fewer immigrants will want to come here. You do know most non-EU migrants come via the EU ? Course he does he's a lawyer, (rofl)
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 2, 2017 19:43:18 GMT
Round up and deport all illegal immigrants simple. I agree we should crack down on illegal immigration. But here is the big headline news (wait for it leave voters, because you have been lied to again by your precious Breitbart etc).......... illegal immigration has nothing to do with the EU. EU migration is legal. Illegal immigrants come from outside of the EU. Brexit will not have an impact on illegal immigration. If we want to cut legal immigration why don't we stop the people we can control right now and have always been able to control - the non EU migrants. Until 2016 every single year there were more non-EU migrants who moved here than EU migrants who came here under the free moment rules. So immigration will not go down unless our government decides to put controls in place. They clearly don't want to because it benefits our economy. Don't worry though, brexit will destroy our economy and there will be fewer jobs so fewer immigrants will want to come here. You are funny illegal immigrants benefit our economy yes of course they do why do they travel across the EU before they come here illegally
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 2, 2017 19:46:00 GMT
You do know most non-EU migrants come via the EU ? Course he does he's a lawyer, No wonder our legal system is so so shit.
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Post by manmarking on Aug 2, 2017 20:49:48 GMT
I agree we should crack down on illegal immigration. But here is the big headline news (wait for it leave voters, because you have been lied to again by your precious Breitbart etc).......... illegal immigration has nothing to do with the EU. EU migration is legal. Illegal immigrants come from outside of the EU. Brexit will not have an impact on illegal immigration. If we want to cut legal immigration why don't we stop the people we can control right now and have always been able to control - the non EU migrants. Until 2016 every single year there were more non-EU migrants who moved here than EU migrants who came here under the free moment rules. So immigration will not go down unless our government decides to put controls in place. They clearly don't want to because it benefits our economy. Don't worry though, brexit will destroy our economy and there will be fewer jobs so fewer immigrants will want to come here. You are funny illegal immigrants benefit our economy     yes of course they do why do they travel across the EU before they come here illegally  Just out of interest, Carps, when will you be doing us all a tremendous favour by invoking your right to freely move to another country? (Preferably one that doesn't have Internet... )
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 2, 2017 20:51:45 GMT
Course he does he's a lawyer, No wonder our legal system is so so shit. It will be after brexit. All you above can't read. Immigration benefits our economy, I didn't say illegal immigration benefits our economy. Immigration does. That is a fact. Whether it benefits our society is a different question. Legal non-eu immigrants do not come from the EU. Illegal ones will but they will continue after brexit amd you are fools to think otherwise.
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 2, 2017 20:57:08 GMT
I agree we should crack down on illegal immigration. But here is the big headline news (wait for it leave voters, because you have been lied to again by your precious Breitbart etc).......... illegal immigration has nothing to do with the EU. EU migration is legal. Illegal immigrants come from outside of the EU. Brexit will not have an impact on illegal immigration. If we want to cut legal immigration why don't we stop the people we can control right now and have always been able to control - the non EU migrants. Until 2016 every single year there were more non-EU migrants who moved here than EU migrants who came here under the free moment rules. So immigration will not go down unless our government decides to put controls in place. They clearly don't want to because it benefits our economy. Don't worry though, brexit will destroy our economy and there will be fewer jobs so fewer immigrants will want to come here. You do know most non-EU migrants come via the EU ? Illegal ones, yes and they will continue to do so when we leave. Legal ones come straight here though. Why would they go through the EU if moving here to live legally?
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Post by capto on Aug 2, 2017 21:29:37 GMT
It's the Schengen border, which makes sense. Once you're in there are no queues, at least according to my mate who took the train from France to Germany the other day, Fabulous for any would be terrorist fantastic. That's what the delays are for - if you're not in shengen then your paperwork is checked more thoroughly to try and stop terrorists. A little late maybe - but a step in the right direction. Obviously we're not in shengen, so our paperwork will be checked. BTW the uk could have done this to all visitors to this country but labour and then tories did not impose checks ( this was the U.K. decision not the EU) - why? Lazy politicians who find it easy to blame the right for their short comings?
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 2, 2017 22:00:57 GMT
Course he does he's a lawyer, No wonder our legal system is so so shit. As I type sitting in the legal capital of the world, please, in your clearly vast experience of the legal system, let me know where is better?
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 2, 2017 22:03:23 GMT
You do know most non-EU migrants come via the EU ? Course he does he's a lawyer, Get up off the floor and think about what you are arguing. That a Brazilian or American or Indian for example who is moving to the UK to live permanently will come from the EU. How thick are you? Will they fly to Romania and walk here? Or will they fly direct?
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 3, 2017 0:39:55 GMT
It's the Schengen border, which makes sense. Once you're in there are no queues, at least according to my mate who took the train from France to Germany the other day, Fabulous for any would be terrorist fantastic. You're right, one of my mates also went from Stoke to Oxford the other day with no border checks! Perfect for any would-be terrorist fanatic, it's just common sense to put border checks at every train station and motorway junction.
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Post by rat on Aug 3, 2017 1:03:21 GMT
Fabulous for any would be terrorist fantastic. You're right, one of my mates also went from Stoke to Oxford the other day with no border checks! Perfect for any would-be terrorist fanatic, it's just common sense to put border checks at every train station and motorway junction. And while we are at it, ankle tags for everyone and a 9pm curfew. That'll keep us safe.
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Post by boothenboy75 on Aug 3, 2017 6:41:36 GMT
Course he does he's a lawyer, (rofl) Get up off the floor and think about what you are arguing. That a Brazilian or American or Indian for example who is moving to the UK to live permanently will come from the EU. How thick are you? Will they fly to Romania and walk here? Or will they fly direct? Calm yourself down Rumpole. I accept what you are saying but how do many Libyans, Somalians and Sudanese end up here? Oh and whilst you're here can you explain to us thickos, how people from Albania who try and claim they are Kosovans and claim asylum, are then allowed to reapply as Albanians when there fraudulent claims are discovered?
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 3, 2017 7:09:23 GMT
Get up off the floor and think about what you are arguing. That a Brazilian or American or Indian for example who is moving to the UK to live permanently will come from the EU. How thick are you? Will they fly to Romania and walk here? Or will they fly direct? Calm yourself down Rumpole. I accept what you are saying but how do many Libyans, Somalians and Sudanese end up here? Oh and whilst you're here can you explain to us thickos, how people from Albania who try and claim they are Kosovans and claim asylum, are then allowed to reapply as Albanians when there fraudulent claims are discovered? We were never in Schengen so they check passports at the border. So being in or out of the EU could only make a difference for people who already have EU passports, right?
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 3, 2017 10:04:56 GMT
Get up off the floor and think about what you are arguing. That a Brazilian or American or Indian for example who is moving to the UK to live permanently will come from the EU. How thick are you? Will they fly to Romania and walk here? Or will they fly direct? Calm yourself down Rumpole. I accept what you are saying but how do many Libyans, Somalians and Sudanese end up here? Oh and whilst you're here can you explain to us thickos, how people from Albania who try and claim they are Kosovans and claim asylum, are then allowed to reapply as Albanians when there fraudulent claims are discovered? You said you were rolling on the floor. There are hardly any people from those nations you mention coming here each year. Maybe a couple of thousand max. A largely irrelevant number in the grand scheme of things. If they are illegal they shouldn't be allowed in. If they are legal they should. It's as simple as that. If people are making fraudulent applications then the authorities should bloody well do their job, I'm sure you agree with me on that. In or out of the EU that should be the case.
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Post by capto on Aug 3, 2017 21:21:41 GMT
Get up off the floor and think about what you are arguing. That a Brazilian or American or Indian for example who is moving to the UK to live permanently will come from the EU. How thick are you? Will they fly to Romania and walk here? Or will they fly direct? Calm yourself down Rumpole. I accept what you are saying but how do many Libyans, Somalians and Sudanese end up here? Oh and whilst you're here can you explain to us thickos, how people from Albania who try and claim they are Kosovans and claim asylum, are then allowed to reapply as Albanians when there fraudulent claims are discovered? Whats your point? If the border checks were thorough illegals would be stopped - it won't matte if we are in or out of the EU - if the border checks are not adequate they will get in. So, who's to blame for the failure in thorough uk borde checks? It will fit the brexits agend to blame the eu - but it is the uk authorities who lack the resources - so that is funding from the government ( labour and conservative ) - and that is down to us, the electorate, for not pressing them to do their jobs. We don't have long borders - illegals can only come by boat or air - we should have the easiest borders to patrol. So, the illegals coming into this country is YOUR fault! How to spot a troll: whowhatwhy.org/2016/01/27/disinformation-part-1-how-trolls-control-an-internet-forum/whowhatwhy.org/2016/02/02/disinformation-part-2-detailed-tips-for-trolls/whowhatwhy.org/2016/02/11/disinformation-part-3-cointelpro-up-close-and-personal/
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Post by Timmypotter on Aug 3, 2017 21:26:11 GMT
Calm yourself down Rumpole. I accept what you are saying but how do many Libyans, Somalians and Sudanese end up here? Oh and whilst you're here can you explain to us thickos, how people from Albania who try and claim they are Kosovans and claim asylum, are then allowed to reapply as Albanians when there fraudulent claims are discovered? We were never in Schengen so they check passports at the border. So being in or out of the EU could only make a difference for people who already have EU passports, right? BINGO! www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/15/italy-threatens-to-give-schengen-visas-to-migrants-as-eu-dispute-deepens[\url]
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