bandit
Academy Starlet
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Post by bandit on Jul 28, 2017 8:24:22 GMT
A sorry brainstorm thinking of Sunderland but if we spend £25 million that's just Arnies return I think we will still spend another £35 million before the deadline.
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Post by gibby1409 on Jul 28, 2017 8:24:39 GMT
Non of us has any idea how good or not these lads are.
Yes it's a risk, but despite what the gloom mongers say, we should have more than enough to stay up. I'm no happy clapper and I wanted two young aggressive fast full backs to start the season with. Maybe we've got these now with our two youngsters?
The midfield looks more solid and has a true leader there with Fletcher. Sobi can replace Arnie and have more than 6 good games per season 😉
So whilst I'm.like a lot of fans and like to see expensive new faces coming in, I'm also excited, proud even that our club may well give youth a chance
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 28, 2017 8:25:31 GMT
Considering we can have an unlimited number of under 21s in the squad, it is inexcusable to the point of being negligent to not have a squad of 25 seasoned professionals who should be reliable enough to not be a massive gamble on our future.
Want to play Edwards at RB? Fine, he doesn't count towards the 25, make sure you have a decent RB in that 25 as well. Same goes for every other position on the pitch.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 28, 2017 8:30:14 GMT
One mega signing isn't going to fix things because we have too many holes to plug, especially in the defense. We have to replace Pieters, and Johnson and we need a right winger or wing-back to free up Shaqiri to play in the middle. We also need either a back-up or a replacement for Shawcross, who from all accounts hasn't done well pre-season. Getting in Martins Indi would make a huge difference, even if it did relegate Shawcross to the bench. Otherwise, the reserve CBs are Cameron and Wollscheid. A £25M Marquee signing and £25M covering the shit of the last few windows. We've got the money of the owners still fancy it and the executives have the skill to spend it. Both of which I severely doubt. We've got £25M in the bank and must have anticipated spending AT LEAST £20-25M before the window opened. Lets not let the club get away with anything less. Can't see how anyone could argue with that, Sheikh. Still got to cling to the hope that's still a real possibility. But if it doesn't prove the case by September 1st, got to assume that things have changed upstairs - and that'd be pretty concerning (not that we could do anything about it!)
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 28, 2017 8:32:12 GMT
If we don't feel comfortable giving Hughes big money to spend then he should've been sacked in the summer, simple as that for me.
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Post by Davef on Jul 28, 2017 8:34:58 GMT
If we don't feel comfortable giving Hughes big money to spend then he should've been sacked in the summer, simple as that for me. You're then assuming that we'd have been prepared to give big money to any new incumbent.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 28, 2017 8:40:02 GMT
If we don't feel comfortable giving Hughes big money to spend then he should've been sacked in the summer, simple as that for me. You're then assuming that we'd have been prepared to give big money to any new incumbent. More inclined to, yeah. The deals for Imbula and Berahino have put a large seed of doubt into the owners mind, which is totally understandable.
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Post by Davef on Jul 28, 2017 8:43:15 GMT
You're then assuming that we'd have been prepared to give big money to any new incumbent. More inclined to, yeah. The deals for Imbula and Berahino have put a large seed of doubt into the owners mind, which is totally understandable. Well, big money wasn't given to the last new manager we appointed.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 16:24:38 GMT
Missed 8th place by a whisker. I would be worried if we escaped relegation by a whisker. What earth are you on? Had we not won the final game we would have finished with the same points as Crystal Palace and Swansea who had dreadful seasons fighting relegation. You need to wake up bud You need a nappy.
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Post by teanstoke on Jul 28, 2017 16:34:10 GMT
We went Sheffield we were shite , no leadership on or off the pitch no effort no passion ,GET RID OF HUGHES OR WE WILL GO DOWN
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Post by chiswickpotter on Jul 28, 2017 16:38:15 GMT
Considering we can have an unlimited number of under 21s in the squad, it is inexcusable to the point of being negligent to not have a squad of 25 seasoned professionals who should be reliable enough to not be a massive gamble on our future. Want to play Edwards at RB? Fine, he doesn't count towards the 25, make sure you have a decent RB in that 25 as well. Same goes for every other position on the pitch. Its not "inexcusable" its complete commercial nonsense.If you have good young players then you want to reduce the seasoned players below 25 so you don't have people hanging around on the wage bill. We can then pay better wages to the players we have and generate more money for transfers while giving the young players experience. Hughes has said the plan is to have 20 or 21 senior players plus youngsters and it has to be the right way forward This week looks to have been one of the slowest for nearly all clubs in the window, seems like everyone is waiting on something to move the market.
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Post by chaydlestokie on Jul 28, 2017 16:46:23 GMT
Give Hughes a break....if he doesnt know his best side how can he possibly know who to buy?................
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2017 16:54:55 GMT
Why are we not spending ?
two words / names
Imbulla
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Berahinogoal
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Post by silverdollar on Jul 28, 2017 17:07:28 GMT
For all you people still berating Berahino, I am very very glad that you do not control the purse strings! Berahino has a fantastic scoring record at Premier League level! Not until we acquire players who consistently get the ball to the dead ball line and pull the ball back will any of our forwards score goals. Far too often we are flighting crosses in from level with the edge of the penalty area and this is far less affective. I feel Sobhi will deliver well given a consistent run. Shaqiri is not a wide player! Get a good fast and direct player like Demerai Gray from Leicester and we might create more chances that Berahino would take.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 28, 2017 17:09:57 GMT
Why are we not spending ? two words / names Imbulla & BerahinogoalIt wan't funny first time around.
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Post by kustokie on Jul 28, 2017 17:11:58 GMT
You're then assuming that we'd have been prepared to give big money to any new incumbent. More inclined to, yeah. The deals for Imbula and Berahino have put a large seed of doubt into the owners mind, which is totally understandable. I have been thinking for a while that the reason Hughes still here may be because Coates can't find a suitable replacement, and that, in turn, may be due to Coates's reluctance to give the replacement the money he needs to rebuild the team. Consequently, he's stuck with the status quo.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 28, 2017 17:12:51 GMT
More inclined to, yeah. The deals for Imbula and Berahino have put a large seed of doubt into the owners mind, which is totally understandable. I have been thinking for a while that the reason Hughes still here may be because Coates can't find a suitable replacement, and that, in turn, may be due to Coates's reluctance to give the replacement the money he needs to rebuild the team. Consequently, he's stuck with the status quo. So why did he give Toxic the bullet?
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Post by crownmeking on Jul 28, 2017 17:14:56 GMT
Why are we not spending ? two words / names Imbulla & BerahinogoalIt wan't funny first time around. Pathetic really.
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Post by ashley luiz on Jul 28, 2017 17:15:42 GMT
Tight chairman and a manager who squandered millions on players who can't cut the mustard
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Post by kustokie on Jul 28, 2017 17:16:18 GMT
I have been thinking for a while that the reason Hughes still here may be because Coates can't find a suitable replacement, and that, in turn, may be due to Coates's reluctance to give the replacement the money he needs to rebuild the team. Consequently, he's stuck with the status quo. So why did he give Toxic the bullet? Because he had Sparky lined up.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 28, 2017 17:17:34 GMT
So why did he give Toxic the bullet? Because he had Sparky lined up. There are a million and one managers that would come to Stoke. Lining up a replacement wouldn't be too difficult.
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Post by wuzza on Jul 28, 2017 17:18:42 GMT
I have been thinking for a while that the reason Hughes still here may be because Coates can't find a suitable replacement, and that, in turn, may be due to Coates's reluctance to give the replacement the money he needs to rebuild the team. Consequently, he's stuck with the status quo. So why did he give Toxic the bullet? I think the Coates family have recently had a little insight into the future of the PL for clubs like ours and have decided to batten down the hatches while the going is good. The rich clubs are getting richer and spending more but TV deals arent providing the profits the media companies want so the goal posts are about to move!
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 28, 2017 17:21:26 GMT
So why did he give Toxic the bullet? I think the Coates family have recently had a little insight into the future of the PL for clubs like ours and have decided to batten down the hatches while the going is good. The rich clubs are getting richer and spending more but TV deals arent providing the profits the media companies want so the goal posts are about to move! They'll be battening down the hatches in the Championship at this rate. They must have utmost faith in Hughes to keep them in the division.
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Post by modfather on Jul 28, 2017 17:23:59 GMT
Following a poor season, by our standards, there were many many fans hoping we would bring in some really good signings to bridge the gaps where we failed last season. Before Arnie went, it seems we should have signed good players at critical areas for the end of close season training. Arnie has now gone and it appears Hughes has said we are not going to spend 'big' money. It seems the management are cheapskating on the emergence on young players and Hughes is embracing this. I hope I am wrong(of course), I went to Sheffield last night and apart from Shaq, it was poor, but I am worried, tin hat on for a fury of abuse. "Why are we not spending" We will Basically Keep your barbie knickers on
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Post by wuzza on Jul 28, 2017 17:28:14 GMT
I think the Coates family have recently had a little insight into the future of the PL for clubs like ours and have decided to batten down the hatches while the going is good. The rich clubs are getting richer and spending more but TV deals arent providing the profits the media companies want so the goal posts are about to move! They'll be battening down the hatches in the Championship at this rate. They must have utmost faith in Hughes to keep them in the division. I think that might be a preferable option to paying a fortune out to stay up. It's clear that the money currently coming in only just about covers the PL salaries so if that money were to reduce because of a 'redistribution of wealth' amongst the 20 clubs being in the top league doesn't look all that attractive .....unless you can do it on the cheap. If so it might as well be Hughes having a go at achieving that as anyone! It's a miserable prospect but it's the sort of pragmatic approach I think the Coates family would take.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 28, 2017 17:32:42 GMT
They'll be battening down the hatches in the Championship at this rate. They must have utmost faith in Hughes to keep them in the division. I think that might be a preferable option to paying a fortune out to stay up. It's clear that the money currently coming in only just about covers the PL salaries so if that money were to reduce because of a 'redistribution of wealth' amongst the 20 clubs being in the top league doesn't look all that attractive .....unless you can do it on the cheap. If so it might as well be Hughes having a go at achieving that as anyone! It's a miserable prospect but it's the sort of pragmatic approach I think the Coates family would take. How depressing. Are they any better than the likes of Ashley then?
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Post by wuzza on Jul 28, 2017 17:35:38 GMT
I think that might be a preferable option to paying a fortune out to stay up. It's clear that the money currently coming in only just about covers the PL salaries so if that money were to reduce because of a 'redistribution of wealth' amongst the 20 clubs being in the top league doesn't look all that attractive .....unless you can do it on the cheap. If so it might as well be Hughes having a go at achieving that as anyone! It's a miserable prospect but it's the sort of pragmatic approach I think the Coates family would take. How depressing. Are they any better than the likes of Ashley then? Well Uncle Peter is certainly better in that he understands the game better and I'm sure has more of an emotional commitment that would influence some decisions but in terms of not allowing the club to become a long term drain on resources they probably have a similar approach.
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Post by kustokie on Jul 28, 2017 17:54:21 GMT
Because he had Sparky lined up. There are a million and one managers that would come to Stoke. Lining up a replacement wouldn't be too difficult. We could have our pick from any number of journeymen like Moyes but a decent manager is going to demand a big transfer budget.
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Post by skelman on Jul 28, 2017 18:00:37 GMT
If we don't feel comfortable giving Hughes big money to spend then he should've been sacked in the summer, simple as that for me. Still waiting for the fekkin cheque to clear
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Post by petemac on Jul 28, 2017 18:00:42 GMT
As it stands we are understandably relegation candidates. Which we haven't been since our first season up. This really does need to be addressed because if we can hear this from the media then damn right the club have heard it. The club either need to address this or we will be in a relegation battle
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