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Post by burge2u on Aug 8, 2017 2:01:12 GMT
Only 7 million for BMI, against 20 million for Arni, a potential 12 million for Joselu, a potential 13.5 million (min) for Imbula, 5 million for Walters, Bardsley and Whelan. That's potentially a negative net spend of more than 40 million. Follow the money, follow the money. Where's Joselu off to ?
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Post by kustokie on Aug 8, 2017 2:11:27 GMT
Only 7 million for BMI, against 20 million for Arni, a potential 12 million for Joselu, a potential 13.5 million (min) for Imbula, 5 million for Walters, Bardsley and Whelan. That's potentially a negative net spend of more than 40 million. Follow the money, follow the money. Where's Joselu off to ? Dunno, but I can see it happening if the price is right. Sparky doesn't seem to rate him.
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Post by cotswoldstokie on Aug 8, 2017 4:36:40 GMT
nice post, there's some moaning cock wombles on here. I genuinely don't understand why some people are moaning so much. If it was the end of the transfer window and we hadn't signed anyone I'd get it but there's 3 weeks left. Coates isn't a stupid man and won't do anything to risk the club's future. The way people are talking you'd think Coates had given all the club's money away to charity, restarted Stadia Catering and hired Cotterill and Little as joint managers with Kamara as first team coach You've just reminded me of the dark place that's was the 1990s Coates's Stoke City! Don't ever want to go back there - results in 0-7 home defeats and relegation🤔 I like the new Coates much better 😀
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 4:43:00 GMT
And it's not impossible that Hughes will keep the door open on the possibility of strengthening that area of the team even further before the transfer window closes at the end of the month, possibly sending out further confusing signals over the future of the Potters' current club captain Shawcross as he enters the final year of his current contract.I wonder what gives Spinks this idea? Yeah - just added that on the Shawcross thread. Bizarre. He's definitely been tipped the wink about something. Wolly and Muni out, which isn't out of the ordinary, would leave us with Shawcross, Bruno and Zouma. Our only cover for a back three would be Cameron, and he's more useful elsewhere. I can see an experienced centre half coming in or a young centre half.
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Post by Northy on Aug 8, 2017 5:12:24 GMT
nice post, there's some moaning cock wombles on here. I genuinely don't understand why some people are moaning so much. If it was the end of the transfer window and we hadn't signed anyone I'd get it but there's 3 weeks left. Coates isn't a stupid man and won't do anything to risk the club's future. The way people are talking you'd think Coates had given all the club's money away to charity, restarted Stadia Catering and hired Cotterill and Little as joint managers with Kamara as first team coach I blame the xbox football games, some people must think thats how you do transfers and run a club.
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Post by chinesedave on Aug 8, 2017 5:28:54 GMT
Yeah - just added that on the Shawcross thread. Bizarre. He's definitely been tipped the wink about something. Wolly and Muni out, which isn't out of the ordinary, would leave us with Shawcross, Bruno and Zouma. Our only cover for a back three would be Cameron, and he's more useful elsewhere. I can see an experienced centre half coming in or a young centre half. Just hope we don't have a stupid offer for Zouma
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 5:32:09 GMT
Wolly and Muni out, which isn't out of the ordinary, would leave us with Shawcross, Bruno and Zouma. Our only cover for a back three would be Cameron, and he's more useful elsewhere. I can see an experienced centre half coming in or a young centre half. Just hope we don't have a stupid offer for Zouma How is that possible?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 8, 2017 5:33:52 GMT
Yeah - just added that on the Shawcross thread. Bizarre. He's definitely been tipped the wink about something. Wolly and Muni out, which isn't out of the ordinary, would leave us with Shawcross, Bruno and Zouma. Our only cover for a back three would be Cameron, and he's more useful elsewhere. I can see an experienced centre half coming in or a young centre half. Yeah - that's fair enough. Probably expecting Muniesa and Wollscheid to go one way or another - and we then would be scarce at centre-half if the back 3 is going to be a main option. The mention of another CB is probably more of a pointer to those 2 leaving rather than anything particularly with Shawcross, although Spinksy has chosen to bring him into it!
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Aug 8, 2017 5:52:08 GMT
Just hope we don't have a stupid offer for Zouma How is that possible? 😂😂😂 it's not.
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Post by stavangerpotter81 on Aug 8, 2017 6:03:58 GMT
Apologies as i am sure it has been stated before but is there any option to buy in the Zouma loan?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2017 6:15:14 GMT
Apologies as i am sure it has been stated before but is there any option to buy in the Zouma loan? No.
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Post by stavangerpotter81 on Aug 8, 2017 6:16:18 GMT
Apologies as i am sure it has been stated before but is there any option to buy in the Zouma loan? No. Shame as I don't think he will make it at Chelsea.
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Post by gogogadget on Aug 8, 2017 6:20:47 GMT
He said no he said no Martin's indi He said no to the palace scum He said no he said no Martin's indi
Cuz he doesn't like cockney cunts
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Aug 8, 2017 6:21:42 GMT
Shame as I don't think he will make it at Chelsea. Why's that then? He's rated very highly.
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Post by stavangerpotter81 on Aug 8, 2017 6:27:03 GMT
Shame as I don't think he will make it at Chelsea. Why's that then? He's rated very highly. Injury or not I think he would have stayed if Conte had Faith. long term contracts with Chelsea provide no basis with them as they shrewdly use this model to generate revenue. The main area I see him lacking is his tactical noise and it is whether he can develop this or not.
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Post by nott1 on Aug 8, 2017 6:38:44 GMT
We'll get him with a reasonable offer if he's enjoyed the season!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 8, 2017 6:43:49 GMT
Apologies as i am sure it has been stated before but is there any option to buy in the Zouma loan? No. If Chelsea were minded to accept a permanent transfer offer from another club for Zouma, and if Zouma agreed to the transfer, then his loan with us would come to an end - as not to allow him to transfer would be an unfair restraint on his employment rights. However, such a transfer could only happen during an open transfer window, and there would be nothing to stop us matching the offer and buying him ourselves if Chelsea and the player were happy about it.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 8, 2017 6:49:27 GMT
Chelsea do not want to sell Zouma, he's on a new monster 6 year deal. There's no point even thinking about it being a possibility. He's a lot better and highly thought of than Nathan Ake if that's what people are worrying about. Add to that, there's virtually no chance we'll be able to sign him permanently either so we can stop thinking about that possibility as well.
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Post by stavangerpotter81 on Aug 8, 2017 6:52:19 GMT
Chelsea do not want to sell Zouma, he's on a new monster 6 year deal. There's no point even thinking about it being a possibility. He's a lot better and highly thought of than Nathan Ake if that's what people are worrying about. Add to that, there's virtually no chance we'll be able to sign him permanently either so we can stop thinking about that possibility as well. There was also no chance of us signing Shaq either so I don't buy into that reasoning. I personally think he will end up playing at a higher level than us but I don't think it will be at Chelsea.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 8, 2017 7:02:59 GMT
Chelsea do not want to sell Zouma, he's on a new monster 6 year deal. There's no point even thinking about it being a possibility. He's a lot better and highly thought of than Nathan Ake if that's what people are worrying about. Add to that, there's virtually no chance we'll be able to sign him permanently either so we can stop thinking about that possibility as well. There was also no chance of us signing Shaq either so I don't buy into that reasoning. I personally think he will end up playing at a higher level than us but I don't think it will be at Chelsea. Shaqiri was completely different situation, no comparison. He may not make it at Chelsea but I bet you now he'll be playing in the Champions League somewhere.
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 8, 2017 7:09:46 GMT
I genuinely don't understand why some people are moaning so much. If it was the end of the transfer window and we hadn't signed anyone I'd get it but there's 3 weeks left. Coates isn't a stupid man and won't do anything to risk the club's future. The way people are talking you'd think Coates had given all the club's money away to charity, restarted Stadia Catering and hired Cotterill and Little as joint managers with Kamara as first team coach I blame the xbox football games, some people must think thats how you do transfers and run a club. Yeah, football manager makes it look so easy. I just did the cup double and Berahino got 27 league goals so that WILL happen this season!!
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Post by johnbutlershair on Aug 8, 2017 7:10:59 GMT
I genuinely don't understand why some people are moaning so much. If it was the end of the transfer window and we hadn't signed anyone I'd get it but there's 3 weeks left. Coates isn't a stupid man and won't do anything to risk the club's future. The way people are talking you'd think Coates had given all the club's money away to charity, restarted Stadia Catering and hired Cotterill and Little as joint managers with Kamara as first team coach You've just reminded me of the dark place that's was the 1990s Coates's Stoke City! Don't ever want to go back there - results in 0-7 home defeats and relegation🤔 I like the new Coates much better 😀 Don't forget a defence that contained the likes of Bryan Small and Steven Tweed!
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Post by meirparkpotter on Aug 8, 2017 7:13:04 GMT
Some of you would make shit negotiators... If Bruno had indicated that he wanted to return, but his agent was touting him to all and sundry, and Porto were playing hard ball, would you have just said "Fuck it" and walked away then? This shows that we have tenacity and will not be made mugs of. It shows we have a transfer team who do in fact, contrary to popular belief actually know what they are doing... hence our 10th season in the prem, a squad FULL of internationals, englands next no 1 GK, some bloke we plucked from nowhere for a measly sum and made an almost tenfold return on, we've broken our transfer records in simultaneous windows, sold our aging players who people said we should be getting rid of for millions... yet some of you f*ckers are still moaning. It really is embarrassing.
You all know nothing and have no knowledge of the inner workings of football clubs, transfers and agents or you'd be out there earning a fortune yourselves. Just look forward to our tenth season in the Prem FFS.
If you'd have been asked in 2005: "Would you take a 10 year stint in the prem, an FA cup final, a European run, some of the best football this club has seen and truly mixing it with the big boys on the odd occasion, plus a thrashing of Liverpool in Gerrard's final game..." every single fan would have asked 'how many limbs do I give?'
Our record signing in '05 was Sammy Bangoura @ 950 grand and we lost to Mansfield on penalties in the League cup... Yet look at us a little over a decade later. Take your heads for a wobble.
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Post by stavangerpotter81 on Aug 8, 2017 7:15:29 GMT
Some of you would make shit negotiators... If Bruno had indicated that he wanted to return, but his agent was touting him to all and sundry, and Porto were playing hard ball, would you have just said "Fuck it" and walked away then? This shows that we have tenacity and will not be made mugs of. It shows we have a transfer team who do in fact, contrary to popular belief actually know what they are doing... hence our 10th season in the prem, a squad FULL of internationals, englands next no 1 GK, some bloke we plucked from nowhere for a measly sum and made an almost tenfold return on, we've broken our transfer records in simultaneous windows, sold our aging players who people said we should be getting rid of for millions... yet some of you f*ckers are still moaning. It really is embarrassing. You all know nothing and have no knowledge of the inner workings of football clubs, transfers and agents or you'd be out there earning a fortune yourselves. Just look forward to our tenth season in the Prem FFS. If you'd have been asked in 2005: "Would you take a 10 year stint in the prem, an FA cup final, a European run, some of the best football this club has seen and truly mixing it with the big boys on the odd occasion, plus a thrashing of Liverpool in Gerrard's final game..." every single fan would have asked 'how many limbs do I give?' Our record signing in '05 was Sammy Bangoura @ 950 grand and we lost to Mansfield on penalties in the League cup... Yet look at us a little over a decade later. Take your heads for a wobble. How nice to hear, well said
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 8, 2017 7:17:01 GMT
With Fletcher,Zouma, Eric, hopefully Indi and maybe 1 or 2 more, I can finally see the Sun breaking through instead of dark clouds on the Horizon.
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Post by bambered on Aug 8, 2017 7:23:04 GMT
Some of you would make shit negotiators... If Bruno had indicated that he wanted to return, but his agent was touting him to all and sundry, and Porto were playing hard ball, would you have just said "Fuck it" and walked away then? This shows that we have tenacity and will not be made mugs of. It shows we have a transfer team who do in fact, contrary to popular belief actually know what they are doing... hence our 10th season in the prem, a squad FULL of internationals, englands next no 1 GK, some bloke we plucked from nowhere for a measly sum and made an almost tenfold return on, we've broken our transfer records in simultaneous windows, sold our aging players who people said we should be getting rid of for millions... yet some of you f*ckers are still moaning. It really is embarrassing. You all know nothing and have no knowledge of the inner workings of football clubs, transfers and agents or you'd be out there earning a fortune yourselves. Just look forward to our tenth season in the Prem FFS. If you'd have been asked in 2005: "Would you take a 10 year stint in the prem, an FA cup final, a European run, some of the best football this club has seen and truly mixing it with the big boys on the odd occasion, plus a thrashing of Liverpool in Gerrard's final game..." every single fan would have asked 'how many limbs do I give?' Our record signing in '05 was Sammy Bangoura @ 950 grand and we lost to Mansfield on penalties in the League cup... Yet look at us a little over a decade later. Take your heads for a wobble. +1
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Aug 8, 2017 7:24:42 GMT
General Faye is correct. The chances that Zouma will be our player next season either on loan or permanent are 1 in a million.
Zouma has 6 years contract at Chelsea and he was in the first team last season. He is firmly in their long-term plans - but even if they dish out 60M on the next David Luiz then they would be selling Zouma for 30-40M he is that highly-rated
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Aug 8, 2017 7:33:16 GMT
So all this stuff about us letting a clause elapse that would have allowed us to sign him for £8.5m straightaway - stuff the Sentinel was reporting as fact a few days ago - is that true or not?
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Post by Mendicant on Aug 8, 2017 7:58:42 GMT
You've just reminded me of the dark place that's was the 1990s Coates's Stoke City! Don't ever want to go back there - results in 0-7 home defeats and relegation🤔 I like the new Coates much better 😀 Don't forget a defence that contained the likes of Bryan Small and Steven Tweed! On his day Small was like a poor man's Roberto Carlos. Sadly that day was only a home game against Chesterfield if I remember correctly.
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Post by hanibal7 on Aug 8, 2017 8:04:20 GMT
I genuinely don't understand why some people are moaning so much. If it was the end of the transfer window and we hadn't signed anyone I'd get it but there's 3 weeks left. Coates isn't a stupid man and won't do anything to risk the club's future. The way people are talking you'd think Coates had given all the club's money away to charity, restarted Stadia Catering and hired Cotterill and Little as joint managers with Kamara as first team coach I blame the xbox football games, some people must think thats how you do transfers and run a club. There is a generation who play games on PC and think they are managers.Some of the comments on here are unbelievable.
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