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Post by chayzenbacon on Jul 15, 2017 11:41:03 GMT
I know its a strange concept, but given the amount of speculation there is around about a probable failure to sign BMI, should the club not feel morally obliged to make some statement to the fans about the saga, even if its only to say "Sorry we f****d up on this, but we'll try to do better next time". Don't hold your breath
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 15, 2017 11:41:37 GMT
I know its a strange concept, but given the amount of speculation there is around about a probable failure to sign BMI, should the club not feel morally obliged to make some statement to the fans about the saga, even if its only to say "Sorry we f****d up on this, but we'll try to do better next time". "I know this a strange concept given the amount of speculation going around" You've answered yourself there, why do they need to say anything?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 15, 2017 11:44:44 GMT
I can't see any way we'll allow ourselves to be outmanoeuvred financially by Palace on this one.
So, if he ends up at Palace, it'll obviously be because he wants to go to London.
And, for all we know, that could have been what he's been angling for all along
(or we may be entirely to blame and Scholes need sacking)
One of the two.
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Post by butlerstbob on Jul 15, 2017 11:46:05 GMT
I know its a strange concept, but given the amount of speculation there is around about a probable failure to sign BMI, should the club not feel morally obliged to make some statement to the fans about the saga, even if its only to say "Sorry we f****d up on this, but we'll try to do better next time". Why would or why should the club do this? None of us know the FACTS, as it stands he hasn't signed for anyone as yet so Stoke havent failed to sign Bruno!!
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 15, 2017 11:47:25 GMT
I can't see any way we'll allow ourselves to be outmanoeuvred financially by Palace on this one. So, if he ends up at Palace, it'll obviously be because he wants to go to London. And, for all we know, that could have been what he's been angling for all along (or we may be entirely to blame and Scholes need sacking) One of the two. I think we can all probably agree on one thing. This episode will conclude with Scholes not being sacked.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 11:49:50 GMT
I can't see any way we'll allow ourselves to be outmanoeuvred financially by Palace on this one. So, if he ends up at Palace, it'll obviously be because he wants to go to London. And, for all we know, that could have been what he's been angling for all along (or we may be entirely to blame and Scholes need sacking) One of the two. Stoke loud and proud saying Porto changed their mind and wouldn't sell for the agreed fee and let the deadline pass and then came back after the deadline demanding a higher fee, so there can't have been a legally binding agreement if that is true.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 15, 2017 11:49:53 GMT
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Post by slicko on Jul 15, 2017 11:50:53 GMT
From what I've read...
Porto at the end of the Premier season guessed/knew Bruno was worth more than the £10million.
They refused to sell to Stoke before our June deadline for this reason.
They'll now sell safe in the knowledge that they'll get 5 million more. Deceitful but we have no watertight contract forcing them to sell. Lesson learned for the future.
Bruno doesn't care so long as he can get his 60k plus salary. Same mentality as all pro footballers, these are just financial transactions.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 15, 2017 11:52:24 GMT
The plot thickens.... again.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 15, 2017 11:57:35 GMT
Port have got exactly what they want here, a bidding war. If Bruno did an Arnie and handed in a transfer request that would help matters but if that doesn't happen I can just see this rumbling on and on.
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Post by chell_rosey on Jul 15, 2017 11:57:35 GMT
Porto trying to generate bidding war. The player too, if he's any sense...
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 15, 2017 11:58:38 GMT
Hope this is reliable, and Sky were being equally shit for all interested parties. The Sentinel, as out-of-the-loop as they generally are, were aware of Palace's interest but made no mention of a fee being agreed, and Pete Smith certainly believed that Stoke were still in the running. EDIT: they actually did refer to the reports of a fee being agreed, but seemed adamant that we were trying to sort a deal.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 11:59:08 GMT
Oh so the Sky sources are wrong again? Who'd have thought that?
I take we're all putting our members back in again then?
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Post by dadofsam on Jul 15, 2017 11:59:46 GMT
how could they refuse to sell if there was an agreement? Were we relying on a "gentlemen's agreement" in this day and age?
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 15, 2017 12:01:04 GMT
Oh there's loads of eggs on plenty of faces?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 15, 2017 12:01:07 GMT
Looks like it's Porto feeding Sky all this shit then? might be a tactic to make us panic and get us to stop pissing about, fair play to them.
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Post by butlerstbob on Jul 15, 2017 12:01:14 GMT
Lets be honest who could blame them, they sent a player out on loan who they presumed was no good, said player has big impact in a league shitting money and they can probably double the profit of said player! I know from our perspective it seems like they are being cunts but can you blame the really?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 15, 2017 12:01:30 GMT
Looks like Porto are playing games with everyone to me
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 12:02:18 GMT
Looks like it's Porto feeding Sky all this shit then? might be a tactic to make us panic and get us to stop pissing about, fair play to them. ..and from the outside looking in, fair play to the Pizza crew for not falling for it.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 15, 2017 12:04:19 GMT
Looks like Porto are playing games with everyone to me When we signed Imbula, I remember someone saying that Porto always get top dollar for their players. If the latest reports are true, you can kind of see why.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 15, 2017 12:07:31 GMT
Looks like it's Porto feeding Sky all this shit then? might be a tactic to make us panic and get us to stop pissing about, fair play to them. ..and from the outside looking in, fair play to the Pizza crew for not falling for it. Imo, we desperately need Zouma in and announced as soon as possible. Once that happens we will then be in a stronger position to say to Porto "if you don't accept this offer, keep him" because at this current moment Porto know how desperate we are and are playing on it.
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Post by Dingdangdoo on Jul 15, 2017 13:00:51 GMT
Maybe he prefers a Dutch manager??
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Post by Fred Merger on Jul 15, 2017 13:18:50 GMT
Don't forget we did the same with Diouf and Berahino in that we offered fees for both, but wouldnt be pushed into a corner and came out with both players in the end on much leaner deals. PC has not become a billionaire through not being prudent in business.
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Post by sportsman on Jul 15, 2017 13:25:42 GMT
Hope this is reliable, and Sky were being equally shit for all interested parties. The Sentinel, as out-of-the-loop as they generally are, were aware of Palace's interest but made no mention of a fee being agreed, and Pete Smith certainly believed that Stoke were still in the running. EDIT: they actually did refer to the reports of a fee being agreed, but seemed adamant that we were trying to sort a deal. The sentinel out of the loop? Since Coates cane back the deal was struck that they are in bed with Stoke. They are the Stoke mouth piece.
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Post by hanibal7 on Jul 15, 2017 13:28:02 GMT
Looks like it's Porto feeding Sky all this shit then? might be a tactic to make us panic and get us to stop pissing about, fair play to them. ..and from the outside looking in, fair play to the Pizza crew for not falling for it. Must have a ring of truth as the 2 crazies are not commenting yet.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 15, 2017 13:35:09 GMT
..and from the outside looking in, fair play to the Pizza crew for not falling for it. Must have a ring of truth as the 2 crazies are not commenting yet. The pizza crew lost all credibility on this deal when they said we had an option , either we did and didn't take it cost circa £4m and rising or lose the player , or we didn't have a binding option and they didn't know , either way it's crap value for the amount we pay them to deal with this stuff
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 15, 2017 13:35:24 GMT
Hope this is reliable, and Sky were being equally shit for all interested parties. The Sentinel, as out-of-the-loop as they generally are, were aware of Palace's interest but made no mention of a fee being agreed, and Pete Smith certainly believed that Stoke were still in the running. EDIT: they actually did refer to the reports of a fee being agreed, but seemed adamant that we were trying to sort a deal. The sentinel out of the loop? Since Coates cane back the deal was struck that they are in bed with Stoke. They are the Stoke mouth piece. Spinks/Smith may be speaking to Coates/Hughes every day and relaying whatever information they're given, but they don't seem to be particularly good at doing their own detective work. John Percy at the Telegraph frequently breaks Stoke-related transfer news while the Sentinel are just telling us what it says in The Sun.
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Post by skelman on Jul 15, 2017 13:38:04 GMT
Looks like Porto are playing games with everyone to me Maybe we've known that for a while and are playing the longer game, as we did with Berahino!
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Post by skelman on Jul 15, 2017 13:39:48 GMT
Looks like Porto are playing games with everyone to me Maybe we've known that for a while and are playing the longer game, as we did with Berahino! * Maybe Porto have moved the goal posts & it's not simply a Scholes fcuk up * Porto can't force BMI to go anywhere while he has a contract with them * Bruno is contracted to 30.06.18 - 11 1/2 months left * BMI may have already made it clear he intends to join us and he/we may trust each other * Perhaps he has agreed that he will join as a free agent then or sooner if the terms are right * All he has to do is go back to Portugal, do everything as a model pro in the sun and wait * We bring Zouma in on loan to cover BMI's absence while we wait * This avoids any 'toxicity' for Bruno while he remains in Portugal * Bruno plays along with, but then says 'no' to terms from any unwelcome interest * At 'worst' we're doubling up from Aug or Jan - Jun 2018 but have a Ryan + 1 quality partnership for the season, with other cover already in the squad Lots of ifs and maybe's but £££'s aren't the key factor for every footballer and just possibly he intends to join us - MAYBE!
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 15, 2017 13:49:23 GMT
Looks like Porto are playing games with everyone to me Maybe we've known that for a while and are playing the longer game, as we did with Berahino! Maybe so but it's a risky one to play if so imo
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