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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 14, 2017 21:49:05 GMT
I'm clicking into this thread every few minutes, my old head is fried and can't handle much more of this. Probably best I go to bed and don't check again for a day or two. Let the madness dissipate
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Post by henry on Jul 14, 2017 21:49:08 GMT
Why do Scholes and co always get a massive slagging off, out of interest, what massive signings have we missed out on because of the supposed ineptness off our transfer team ? Genuine question i'm a bit pissed and have a wank memory.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 14, 2017 21:50:00 GMT
Stoke loud and proud just made a comment saying Bruno must be missing his house, wonder if they are hinting at something. "Croydon, here we come!" Lol I reckon that's only his shed
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Post by baystokie on Jul 14, 2017 21:51:50 GMT
The thing I don't get is how hes been with Porto and still is and as far as we know hasn't even been to Palace yet looks like he's off their. There's something fishy going on. How can we have had such an advantage with him knowing the club etc and lose him to a club who've joined the race in the last couple of days. If he goes Palace someone needs the sack. But it's not definite he IS 'off there' - If Palace have agreed a fee, then it would be likely that he would go and talk to Palace. What happens thereafter, is anyone's guess. However, your last statement is agreed.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 14, 2017 21:52:10 GMT
He is close to joining palace but we have thrown a last ditch offer in to match palace. Just text my mate and he said stoke aren't ruled out just yet, bid gone in. The plot thickens. Sure we will still fuck it up mind I'm amazed weve done this as we'd make ourselves look like idiots giving 4m more than we needed to. At least if he went elsewhere for 14m the board could say Porto got greedy. Cobham they don't need to make themselves look idiotic , the whole of football knows our team are clueless at this stuff hence all the last minute shenanigans time after time after time
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 14, 2017 21:54:41 GMT
Why do Scholes and co always get a massive slagging off, out of interest, what massive signings have we missed out on because of the supposed ineptness off our transfer team ? Genuine question i'm a bit pissed and have a wank memory. Start with Soares who we had at Clayton wood and signed for Southampton, add a bit of Redmond then add Keane who Hughes wanted fur £17m last window who had just gone for 30 and work back from there
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Post by proudstokie on Jul 14, 2017 21:54:52 GMT
I'm not sure why we're worrying about Bruno signing. Our back four last season was terrible! One because our midfield was shocking and two because we had no pace in our backline. Bruno was a shining light in a poor outfit but if we're sticking with Shawcross then we need pace alongside him. I like Bruno but I'm not sure he's a natural fit for us at this time.
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Post by butlerstbob on Jul 14, 2017 21:55:13 GMT
Did he want to join us in the first place? Maybe its been him that didnt want to join us and thats why this has dragged on, they are all in it for the wonga and probably think very little of the club they are signing for! Just a thought.
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Post by thisfootballclub on Jul 14, 2017 21:58:33 GMT
Come on Stoke! Offer him free oatcakes (with cheese) for life or something! Just get the sodding deal over the line!
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Post by rat on Jul 14, 2017 22:05:05 GMT
Are Carto and Scholes that bad really? In this league there are a lot of clubs ahead of us and the rest of them are mostly on a similar footing . Can't be easy hitting the target each and every time we aim .
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 14, 2017 22:07:08 GMT
Why do Scholes and co always get a massive slagging off, out of interest, what massive signings have we missed out on because of the supposed ineptness off our transfer team ? Genuine question i'm a bit pissed and have a wank memory. Start with Soares who we had at Clayton wood and signed for Southampton, add a bit of Redmond then add Keane who Hughes wanted fur £17m last window who had just gone for 30 and work back from there But Soares never even came to Clayton Wood. Infact the bloke looked nothing like him on the photo in the bushes.
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Post by rondogmcmuffin on Jul 14, 2017 22:09:38 GMT
Have we signed Bruno yet? I refuse to accept that Palace can wrap up a deal in 48 hours that we've had 11 months to negotiate. Can't wait to see him in red and white stripes.
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Post by Ygor on Jul 14, 2017 22:10:15 GMT
Are Carto and Scholes that bad really? In this league there are a lot of clubs ahead of us and the rest of them are mostly on a similar footing . Can't be easy hitting the target each and every time we aim . I see your point but when the situation is the equivalent of the target being 6ft high, 10ft wide, 4ft away and you have laser sights on your weapon, to miss is sheer incompetence! :-D
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Post by henry on Jul 14, 2017 22:12:13 GMT
Why do Scholes and co always get a massive slagging off, out of interest, what massive signings have we missed out on because of the supposed ineptness off our transfer team ? Genuine question i'm a bit pissed and have a wank memory. Start with Soares who we had at Clayton wood and signed for Southampton, add a bit of Redmond then add Keane who Hughes wanted fur £17m last window who had just gone for 30 and work back from there Did Tom ince visit clayton woods aswell ?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 22:12:49 GMT
Did he want to join us in the first place? Maybe its been him that didnt want to join us and thats why this has dragged on, they are all in it for the wonga and probably think very little of the club they are signing for! Just a thought. If he hadn't wanted to join we would have walked away and saved face. Now look where we are.
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 14, 2017 22:14:45 GMT
Have we signed Bruno yet? I refuse to accept that Palace can wrap up a deal in 48 hours that we've had 11 months to negotiate. Can't wait to see him in red and white stripes. Prepare to be disappointed then
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 22:16:28 GMT
Are Carto and Scholes that bad really? In this league there are a lot of clubs ahead of us and the rest of them are mostly on a similar footing . Can't be easy hitting the target each and every time we aim . Yes they are. We've been in the division now for longer than all but 7 teams. So you are wrong there are not a lot of teams ahead of us. But then you are right, it doesn't matter who you are, everyone is on the same footing in this league, spending money on the right players is what counts. If we are determined to sign a player, as a long established premier league club it should be easy for us.
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Post by datguy on Jul 14, 2017 22:17:52 GMT
Are Carto and Scholes that bad really? In this league there are a lot of clubs ahead of us and the rest of them are mostly on a similar footing . Can't be easy hitting the target each and every time we aim . Refusing to pay for Bruno through his clause and trying to penny pinch a couple of million but potentially ending up paying 5 more million than the original clause - yes Scholes is that bad.
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 14, 2017 22:18:35 GMT
Start with Soares who we had at Clayton wood and signed for Southampton, add a bit of Redmond then add Keane who Hughes wanted fur £17m last window who had just gone for 30 and work back from there Did Tom ince visit clayton woods aswell ? I think his dad took him on a cold-calling trip to just about every top flight club in England and some on the Continent as well, like some disreputable travelling salesman. At one point he tipped red wine on Coatesey's office carpet and got Tom to suck it up again.
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Post by thisfootballclub on Jul 14, 2017 22:21:26 GMT
Are Carto and Scholes that bad really? In this league there are a lot of clubs ahead of us and the rest of them are mostly on a similar footing . Can't be easy hitting the target each and every time we aim . Yes they are. We've been in the division now for longer than all but 7 teams.So you are wrong there are not a lot of teams ahead of us. But then you are right, it doesn't matter who you are, everyone is on the same footing in this league, spending money on the right players is what counts. If we are determined to sign a player, as a long established premier league club it should be easy for us. That stat highlights how quickly time flies, but does also suggest anything less than a top half finish is underachievement for an established and very wealthy premier league club?
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Post by rat on Jul 14, 2017 22:21:49 GMT
Are Carto and Scholes that bad really? In this league there are a lot of clubs ahead of us and the rest of them are mostly on a similar footing . Can't be easy hitting the target each and every time we aim . Refusing to pay for Bruno through his clause and trying to penny pinch a couple of million but potentially ending up paying 5 more million than the original clause - yes Scholes is that bad. It can't be that simple , nobody is that stupid . There's clearly more to it ..... sounds more like Porto being impossible , breaching the deadline etc.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2017 22:35:54 GMT
Are Carto and Scholes that bad really? In this league there are a lot of clubs ahead of us and the rest of them are mostly on a similar footing . Can't be easy hitting the target each and every time we aim . We had a deal to sign the fucker. Like it literally should have been a case of getting him to sign. People seriously need to open their eyes with how we are run and our status. We aren't little old Stoke.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2017 22:37:23 GMT
Start with Soares who we had at Clayton wood and signed for Southampton, add a bit of Redmond then add Keane who Hughes wanted fur £17m last window who had just gone for 30 and work back from there But Soares never even came to Clayton Wood. Infact the bloke looked nothing like him on the photo in the bushes. He was 100% at Clayton Wood.
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Post by rat on Jul 14, 2017 22:37:54 GMT
Are Carto and Scholes that bad really? In this league there are a lot of clubs ahead of us and the rest of them are mostly on a similar footing . Can't be easy hitting the target each and every time we aim . We had a deal to sign the fucker. Like it literally should have been a case of getting him to sign. People seriously need to open their eyes with how we are run and our status. We aren't little old Stoke. Nobody sets out to lose £5mill either . Listen to yourself
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Post by henry on Jul 14, 2017 22:40:33 GMT
But Soares never even came to Clayton Wood. Infact the bloke looked nothing like him on the photo in the bushes. He was 100% at Clayton Wood. Doesnt prove that the CEO is a wanker though does it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2017 22:43:34 GMT
We had a deal to sign the fucker. Like it literally should have been a case of getting him to sign. People seriously need to open their eyes with how we are run and our status. We aren't little old Stoke. Nobody sets out to lose £5mill either . Listen to yourself No. It takes a great deal of fuck wittery and incompetence.
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Post by Lightwood on Jul 14, 2017 22:46:21 GMT
His family were settled He has a home nearby We had a deal in principle He's enjoyed his time at the club
If and hopefully it's a big IF we fuck this up I really fear for the coming season.
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Post by rat on Jul 14, 2017 22:46:21 GMT
Nobody sets out to lose £5mill either . Listen to yourself No. It take a great deal of fuck wittery and incompetence. You're being silly now . Are you suggesting they just forgot ?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2017 22:49:38 GMT
No. It take a great deal of fuck wittery and incompetence. You're being silly now . Are you suggesting they just forgot ? No! Read the thread. They thought we had a binding deal. What went wrong? If it wasn't binding then we can only blame ourselves as the manager thought he could sign and it'd be a foregone conclusion as late as March. Then the tone changed like he'd be told that actually it wasn't so straight forward. We fucked up. It happens. Far too often with us.
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Post by duckling on Jul 14, 2017 22:52:16 GMT
No. It take a great deal of fuck wittery and incompetence. You're being silly now . Are you suggesting they just forgot ? My theory, which is based on nothing, is that Porto dragged it out intentionally past the deadline because they knew that they could get more from another club. These option clauses are often complex and may include little phrases that allow a party to weasel out of the deal or change the terms of the deal. In addition, even if the clause was straightforward, the only way Stoke could enforce it would be to take them to court. That would certainly not be resolved within the window and would be subject to Porto bribing the court system.
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