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Post by thevoid on Jul 14, 2017 17:24:42 GMT
"Stoke must now quickly push for a breakthrough in their own negotiations with Porto, which have proven frustrating over recent months as goalposts have been moved." Push for a breakthrough? We need to equal or better Palace's offer and, if necessary, persuade the player. It's as simple as that, isn't it? Unless it's been kept quiet since January when we started this saga, Palace have had one shot and apparently got a deal. How come? It's a poser aint it. We monitor, others act. Think Pete might need to employ some extra security in the Waddington Suite if this shit carries on.
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 14, 2017 17:26:28 GMT
We could be in a bidding war. How does Scholes get away with this incompetence?
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Post by cozmick on Jul 14, 2017 17:27:49 GMT
Nothing surprises me anymore.
This clubs management is a fucking joke.
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Post by thisfootballclub on Jul 14, 2017 17:28:27 GMT
Obviously not in possession of all the facts but on the surface things been allowed to reach the point where he's on the verge of signing for one of our rivals after (allegedly) having a deal in place to sign him for an pre-agreed fee seems a pretty inept piece of business.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 17:30:05 GMT
Can't see why we are concerned, Bruno won't be going nowhere and will be staying at Porto.
Well that's my opinion after reading Hughes / Scholes saying that Porto are hard to deal with, so taking that, every other club won't be able to prise him off them either 😉
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 14, 2017 17:33:13 GMT
Can we go back to signing Pompey and Black Cats reserves please? It was always a piece of piss to get blokes from them.
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 14, 2017 17:34:31 GMT
We could be in a bidding war. How does Scholes get away with this incompetence? I really do wish there was an answer to that but there just isn't The man is a wet wipe
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 14, 2017 17:35:45 GMT
Scholes out for the love of God.
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Post by bandit on Jul 14, 2017 17:37:59 GMT
The club's supporters even more so if they don't understand someone is getting gazumped, even more so the players agent stalling for a bigger profit is the main target.
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 14, 2017 17:38:28 GMT
Scholes out for the love of God. Can't think why
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Post by butlerstbob on Jul 14, 2017 17:38:42 GMT
Scholes or whoever is making these mistakes, it seems to be every window we struggle to get signings over the line!
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 14, 2017 17:39:19 GMT
If Scholes etc.were on piecework, the useless fuck wits would have to claim state benefits to get by.
Considering Coates is a very successful business man, it makes you wonder why he employs people who are so poor at doing the job they are very well paid for.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 17:40:56 GMT
Yep medical tomorrow
for Crystal Place too -- apparently
great eh ?
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 14, 2017 17:41:47 GMT
Can't see why we are concerned, Bruno won't be going nowhere and will be staying at Porto. Well that's my opinion after reading Hughes / Scholes saying that Porto are hard to deal with, so taking that, every other club won't be able to prise him off them either 😉 Maybe other clubs don't have a useless twat like Scholes working for them.
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Post by callas12 on Jul 14, 2017 17:43:20 GMT
Remember davesview highlighting after numerous poorly run transfer windows of years gone by that the owners would be looking at the recruitment side off things but nothing ever seems to change or be done to fix or rectify it. I'm trying to stay open minded over this latest issue and hope that things are still going on behind the scenes and it's likely there's politics that may well actually be out of our control holding things up as opposed to our own clubs own poor decision making but guessing time will tell.
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Post by 36dd on Jul 14, 2017 17:51:55 GMT
Remember davesview highlighting after numerous poorly run transfer windows of years gone by that the owners would be looking at the recruitment side off things but nothing ever seems to change or be done to fix or rectify it. I'm trying to stay open minded over this latest issue and hope that things are still going on behind the scenes and it's likely there's politics that may well actually be out of our control holding things up as opposed to our own clubs own poor decision making but guessing time will tell. How are you pal???
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Post by steventaaffe on Jul 14, 2017 18:01:26 GMT
Really pissed off about the whole Merry go round, imagine if Bruno goes Palace, zouma goes elsewhere, looks like we are left with wholly and Ryan!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 18:02:29 GMT
Really pissed off about the whole Merry go round, imagine if Bruno goes Palace, zouma goes elsewhere, looks like we are left with wholly and Ryan! People need to stop panicking and wait and see.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 14, 2017 18:04:10 GMT
Really pissed off about the whole Merry go round, imagine if Bruno goes Palace, zouma goes elsewhere, looks like we are left with wholly and Ryan! People need to stop panicking and wait and see. Sounds like that's the approach of our transfer team.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 18:05:17 GMT
People need to stop panicking and wait and see. Sounds like that's the approach of our transfer team. Anybody reading this board would think it was the last week of the window.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jul 14, 2017 18:06:18 GMT
How the fuck do you have an option to buy at 8.8m with a deadline of July 1, a massively important date in football, and let it expire? If we didn't want him we could have exercised the bloody signing and flipped him in January for a profit anyway. Absolute incompetence Stoke I doubt the times journo would write that if it wasn't true so yes, it's crazy isn't it. 8.8 mill is a bargain. Amateurish. If the club are reading this...I am a lawyer myself and would leap at the chance to work for the club. If I get the job I promise to use my outlook calendar to diarise a meeting well in advance of option deadlines and sort these things out[/quote Well if you are a lawyer then you must know you can't jump to conclusions until you've actually read the documents. Please enlighten us on the finer details of the original contracts. It will save a lot of people a lot of time on this thread.
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Post by thisfootballclub on Jul 14, 2017 18:08:59 GMT
Really pissed off about the whole Merry go round, imagine if Bruno goes Palace, zouma goes elsewhere, looks like we are left with wholly and Ryan! People need to stop panicking and wait and see. Not panicking at all. I just think people are asking questions of this specific deal which (with the details we have) from the outside looking in reeks of incompetence.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 18:09:00 GMT
I doubt the times journo would write that if it wasn't true so yes, it's crazy isn't it. 8.8 mill is a bargain. Amateurish. If the club are reading this...I am a lawyer myself and would leap at the chance to work for the club. If I get the job I promise to use my outlook calendar to diarise a meeting well in advance of option deadlines and sort these things out[/quote Well if you are a lawyer then you must know you can't jump to conclusions until you've actually read the documents. Please enlighten us on the finer details of the original contracts. It will save a lot of people a lot of time on this thread. Apparently the option that was much talked about was to pay an 8.8 million transfer fee by 1st July. For whatever reason we didn't and now we are putting in a far higher bid having got into a bidding war.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 14, 2017 18:09:01 GMT
Sounds like that's the approach of our transfer team. Anybody reading this board would think it was the last week of the window. Or that we've potentially screwed up a deal for a player we were in the driving seat to sign, to a peer club, because we've fannied about over peanuts. That's unacceptable no matter which part of the window it happens.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 18:11:18 GMT
People need to stop panicking and wait and see. Not panicking at all. I just think people are asking questions of this specific deal which (with the details we have) from the outside looking in reeks of incompetence. Yep, if there was an option to buy, it is obvious incompetence that we find ourselves bidding against a rival now. That is not how you get good value.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 14, 2017 18:14:31 GMT
If it looks like a shambles, walks like a shambles and talks like a shambles it probably is a shambles but I going to wait a few days to see if any facts come out before I start calling for heads to roll.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jul 14, 2017 18:16:33 GMT
Apparently the option that was much talked about was to pay an 8.8 million transfer fee by 1st July. For whatever reason we didn't and now we are putting in a far higher bid having got into a bidding war. As you say 'apparently'. So you don't really know. Exactly the point I was making. As a lawyer, if you've not read the contracts, how can you jump to a conclusion?
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Post by callas12 on Jul 14, 2017 18:18:09 GMT
Have pm'd ya '36dd'.. Cheers
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Post by DentySCFC on Jul 14, 2017 18:18:12 GMT
Whatever happens the club needs to address why we haven't taken up the option to sign him permanently - whether we deemed it too much, whether we didn't want to sign him, whatever.
This pre-season was huge given how crap we were last season and the number of transfers we need.
It's going to be one long season.
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Post by bhp on Jul 14, 2017 18:24:17 GMT
If he ends up elsewhere then there needs to be a reason of some sort explained to the fans. No good saying 'we didn't manage to push the deal through the door', no shit cunt stain, tinpot Palace have managed to.
If he decides to go Palace over us then fair play, can't force him to sign for us, no issue with that at all, but if it's our fault of some sort then I feel we deserve to know about the reason given that we had an apparent option to buy in the loan deal less than a year ago. I don't want everything explaining to us, why should they? They shouldn't, but if this is not finalised and its our fault then it's a massive ball up.
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