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Post by CalgaryPotter on Jul 14, 2017 15:27:08 GMT
I really am struggling to come to terms with how our club operates when it comes to transfers. Whichever side of the argument you sit on with Indi value its clear that the one area of the team that needs large investment in the defence with upgrades needed in all 3 areas of the defence and in today's value of players £13m is about right for you average run of the mill defender which indi is better than. What really fucking grinds me is how do you go from smashing the club transfer fee by a clear £6m+ on a complete unknown like imbula to penny pinching on arguably one of our most cosistant players of last year who everyone knows is a decent player ? It makes no sense. I hate bashing our club I really do but this stinks of incompetence and I'm pretty sure MH will be thinking exactly the same if he eventually does sign for the palace. Didn't Hughes leave Fulham after he cited they failed to have any ambition ? Some may see it as a blessing but if this happens he just might join Arnie in wanting out. Whichever side of the Mark Hughes fence you sit on he's currently doing his job with his hands tied behind his back and I feel sorry for him. Yet again premiership on the pitch and conference off it. Hughes left Fulham cause he thought he had nailed the Villa job if memory serves me correctly. Instead they chose the turncoat Scotsman from that Blue nose scum. And how you can consider Imbula a complete unknown after they saw him play for 45 minutes in a pre-season friendly is beyond me
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Post by miggo on Jul 14, 2017 15:32:20 GMT
I really am struggling to come to terms with how our club operates when it comes to transfers. Whichever side of the argument you sit on with Indi value its clear that the one area of the team that needs large investment in the defence with upgrades needed in all 3 areas of the defence and in today's value of players £13m is about right for you average run of the mill defender which indi is better than. What really fucking grinds me is how do you go from smashing the club transfer fee by a clear £6m+ on a complete unknown like imbula to penny pinching on arguably one of our most cosistant players of last year who everyone knows is a decent player ? It makes no sense. I hate bashing our club I really do but this stinks of incompetence and I'm pretty sure MH will be thinking exactly the same if he eventually does sign for the palace. Didn't Hughes leave Fulham after he cited they failed to have any ambition ? Some may see it as a blessing but if this happens he just might join Arnie in wanting out. Whichever side of the Mark Hughes fence you sit on he's currently doing his job with his hands tied behind his back and I feel sorry for him. Yet again premiership on the pitch and conference off it. Hughes left Fulham cause he thought he had nailed the Villa job if memory serves me correctly. Instead they chose the turncoat Scotsman from that Blue nose scum. And how you can consider Imbula a complete unknown after they saw him play for 45 minutes in a pre-season friendly is beyond me I'm sorry but you don't smash your transfer record after watching a player for 45 mins in a friendly and if they did I'd worry that its a worse state of affairs than I originally thought.
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Post by neddy on Jul 14, 2017 15:42:20 GMT
Surely it will now come down to where Bruno wants to go?Lets hope its us?
Ned
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Post by PolPotter on Jul 14, 2017 15:43:20 GMT
I hope to God the posters who completely over reacted, when they thought Bruno was almost here, are children. Reading through this thread is embarrassing.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Jul 14, 2017 15:48:24 GMT
Come on lads it's Christmas day for me and Benji. To see the entire supporter base come on side with what a hopeless, incompetent, bell end Scholes is. It's only taken me 11 years! Give us prescient nob heads a break! Make that the entire supporter base minus one. Not having read the contracts we had with Bruno and Porto or being a party to the various discussions that might have taken place between the relevant parties I am not in a position to judge the competence of the Stoke City management team on this one
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Post by stokiejoe on Jul 14, 2017 15:56:49 GMT
The key to all this is Bruno himself. He will decide which club providing offers match
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jul 14, 2017 15:58:41 GMT
Come on lads it's Christmas day for me and Benji. To see the entire supporter base come on side with what a hopeless, incompetent, bell end Scholes is. It's only taken me 11 years! Give us prescient nob heads a break! Make that the entire supporter base minus one. Not having read the contracts we had with Bruno and Porto or being a party to the various discussions that might have taken place between the relevant parties I am not in a position to judge the competence of the Stoke City management team on this one Fair to say though we've had ample opportunity to get something sorted if the palace reports are true.
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Post by jeycov on Jul 14, 2017 16:05:46 GMT
Time for Affelay and Pieters to give him a call? I don't think that there are any Dutch footballers at West Ham atm
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Post by marrer on Jul 14, 2017 16:08:42 GMT
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Post by apb1979 on Jul 14, 2017 16:12:30 GMT
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 14, 2017 16:18:23 GMT
So we had no chance of signing Ake because he spent a season with Bournemouth, yet the fact Bruno spent time here holds no sway?Riiiight.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 14, 2017 16:19:27 GMT
You do end up hoping that the Scum report is inaccurate and there are other reasons for the collapse of the move or you just have to conclude that if Palace are blowing us out of the water, we are playing a different game to the rest of the league and are presumably happy to face the consequences of doing so. How odd that a corporation like Bet365 would play so fast and loose with it's highest profile subsidiary, even odder that a lifelong supporter would allow it to.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 14, 2017 16:19:41 GMT
Paul Joyce has got a reputation of being very reliable. Stoke, who are set to recruit Kurt Zouma on loan from Chelsea, had an option to sign Martins Indi for £8.8 million. Yet that expired on July 1 without an agreement and that has opened the door to Palace.
Martins Indi has yet to undergo a medical at Palace and Hughes could seek to reassert Stoke’s position, but De Boer is hopeful of landing a player who has been capped 34 times by Holland.
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on Jul 14, 2017 16:20:31 GMT
He is close to joining palace but we have thrown a last ditch offer in to match palace. Just text my mate and he said stoke aren't ruled out just yet, bid gone in.
The plot thickens. Sure we will still fuck it up mind
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 14, 2017 16:21:03 GMT
Crystal Palace are trying to outmanoeuvre Stoke City by sealing a £12.5 million move for Bruno Martins Indi
Hardly sounds a done deal.
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on Jul 14, 2017 16:21:54 GMT
I'm guessing Hughes has gone off his tits at the recruitment clowns
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 14, 2017 16:21:57 GMT
Paul Joyce has got a reputation of being very reliable. Stoke, who are set to recruit Kurt Zouma on loan from Chelsea, had an option to sign Martins Indi for £8.8 million. Yet that expired on July 1 without an agreement and that has opened the door to Palace.
Martins Indi has yet to undergo a medical at Palace and Hughes could seek to reassert Stoke’s position, but De Boer is hopeful of landing a player who has been capped 34 times by Holland.Inept.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 14, 2017 16:21:58 GMT
Is it just a case of offering more money to Bruno then Cilla?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 14, 2017 16:22:15 GMT
Paul Joyce has got a reputation of being very reliable. Stoke, who are set to recruit Kurt Zouma on loan from Chelsea, had an option to sign Martins Indi for £8.8 million. Yet that expired on July 1 without an agreement and that has opened the door to Palace.
Martins Indi has yet to undergo a medical at Palace and Hughes could seek to reassert Stoke’s position, but De Boer is hopeful of landing a player who has been capped 34 times by Holland.And yet no one has been made accountable for not signing him before the agreement expired? *shakes head*
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 14, 2017 16:22:57 GMT
£12.5m is still a bargain.
I just hope we haven't tried to be ridiculously cute and get him for less than £8.bloody 8 for the last fortnight
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 14, 2017 16:23:02 GMT
Crystal Palace are trying to outmanoeuvre Stoke City by sealing a £12.5 million move for Bruno Martins Indi Hardly sounds a done deal. Paying the going market rate hardly sounds like the deftest piece of outmaneuvering I've ever heard of either.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 14, 2017 16:23:15 GMT
I'm guessing Hughes has gone off his tits at the recruitment clowns If he hasn't he's a fucking Saint.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 14, 2017 16:24:14 GMT
Crystal Palace are trying to outmanoeuvre Stoke City by sealing a £12.5 million move for Bruno Martins Indi Hardly sounds a done deal. Paying the going market rate hardly sounds like the deftest piece of outmaneuvering I've ever heard of either. What is the market rate anything from 8 quid to 5 billion?
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Post by that's our Ric on Jul 14, 2017 16:25:29 GMT
He is close to joining palace but we have thrown a last ditch offer in to match palace. Just text my mate and he said stoke aren't ruled out just yet, bid gone in. The plot thickens. Sure we will still fuck it up mind How the fuck has it come to this ?? Really poor
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Post by CillaBlacksPissFlaps on Jul 14, 2017 16:26:08 GMT
Is it just a case of offering more money to Bruno then Cilla? No mate, offering what Porto want UP FRONT. We had our chance at a lower cost and somehow fucked that right up stoke style
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 14, 2017 16:26:36 GMT
Is it just a case of offering more money to Bruno then Cilla? No mate, offering what Porto want UP FRONT. We had our chance at a lower cost and somehow fucked that right up stoke style Ok...
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Post by jeycov on Jul 14, 2017 16:27:49 GMT
Crystal Palace are trying to outmanoeuvre Stoke City by sealing a £12.5 million move for Bruno Martins Indi Hardly sounds a done deal. Bruno will make the choice that is the better option for him. The option to buy required him to commit to sign for us and he has opted to look at any other options. We still might get him, but there was never a "right " to keep him here. So why is he considering another mid table Premiership team?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 14, 2017 16:28:27 GMT
It makes sense now
We let the deal agreement expire for £8m (inexplicably)
We then go back in for him only for Porto to ask for money, hence the claims of Porto "moving the goal posts" which has happened down to our inept transfer team
We decide that because Bruno wants to come here we spend as long as possible trying to negotiate the fee back down closer to the original fEE
This then opens the door for others to sign him, now there's a genuine chance he'll move somewhere else we've been forced to pay what Porto want
.. brilliant Stoke.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 14, 2017 16:29:38 GMT
Is it just a case of offering more money to Bruno then Cilla? No mate, offering what Porto want UP FRONT. We had our chance at a lower cost and somehow fucked that right up stoke style We really do have a totally inept transfer team. I really do hope MH has done his nut because they really need telling.
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 14, 2017 16:30:34 GMT
Surely there's more than meets the eye to this. Our transfer team surely wouldn't have made a mess of simply having an agreed fee and then letting it run out?
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