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Post by 36dd on Jul 14, 2017 14:04:38 GMT
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 14, 2017 14:15:35 GMT
It's only a game of footy mate But it's more than that, isn't it? Having a Premier League team means that the city is internationally known and filled with visitors every other weekend, and hundreds of jobs depend on Premier League status either directly or indirectly. Avoiding relegation is crucial to a working class area like Stoke. Like I said it's just a game of footy
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Post by metalhead on Jul 14, 2017 14:17:39 GMT
Lol they literally (not often you can use that term) wrote that entire article off the back of one Tweet. London media eh?
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Post by liamo on Jul 14, 2017 14:20:03 GMT
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 14, 2017 14:20:19 GMT
But it's more than that, isn't it? Having a Premier League team means that the city is internationally known and filled with visitors every other weekend, and hundreds of jobs depend on Premier League status either directly or indirectly. Avoiding relegation is crucial to a working class area like Stoke. Like I said it's just a game of footy I have to agree. I fail to see how avoiding relegation is "crucial" for the area... it's important maybe, but not 'crucial'. There isn't a City or Town in the country whose economic success or otherwise is determined solely by their football club's position.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 14, 2017 14:23:39 GMT
BMI, with RLC on loan too.....grrr.........
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Post by samba :) on Jul 14, 2017 14:24:33 GMT
Like I said it's just a game of footy I have to agree. I fail to see how avoiding relegation is "crucial" for the area... it's important maybe, but not 'crucial'. There isn't a City or Town in the country whose economic success or otherwise is determined solely by their football club's position. bet you the chippy outside Upton park has closed
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Post by stokemark on Jul 14, 2017 14:26:25 GMT
Like I said it's just a game of footy I have to agree. I fail to see how avoiding relegation is "crucial" for the area... it's important maybe, but not 'crucial'. There isn't a City or Town in the country whose economic success or otherwise is determined solely by their football club's position. If it's 'just a game of footy' to you then fine To me it's about pride, passion, excitement (and of course despair) You can pretty much boil everything down to its consistent partsthat isn't life and death (music is just noise etc) but what a sad place the world would be
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 14, 2017 14:32:07 GMT
I have to agree. I fail to see how avoiding relegation is "crucial" for the area... it's important maybe, but not 'crucial'. There isn't a City or Town in the country whose economic success or otherwise is determined solely by their football club's position. If it's 'just a game of footy' to you then fine To me it's about pride, passion, excitement (and of course despair) You can pretty much boil everything down to its consistent partsthat isn't life and death (music is just noise etc) but what a sad place the world would be Oh don't get me wrong, i'll go to every match possible regardless of which league we're in. I love it when we win, hate it when we lose. I spend a fair bit of time on here when work isn't so busy. But am I going to get angry / pissed off because a player we were targeting might end up elsewhere? Nah. If we don't make any further signings then I fear for us this season, but I think some folk on here are over reacting a wee bit... me personaly, i've got bigger things to worry about than seeing BMI in a Palace shirt next season!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 14:32:22 GMT
BMI, with RLC on loan too.....grrr......... while we snooooooze.....
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Post by duckling on Jul 14, 2017 14:43:06 GMT
BMI, with RLC on loan too.....grrr......... Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a lazy overpaid (£65k a week!) overrated player. I followed Chelsea as a neutral for the 2015-2016 season and never understood the hype. He's seriously lazy. This clip says it all; he's #36. streamable.com/w70v
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Post by miggo on Jul 14, 2017 14:53:33 GMT
I really am struggling to come to terms with how our club operates when it comes to transfers.
Whichever side of the argument you sit on with Indi value its clear that the one area of the team that needs large investment in the defence with upgrades needed in all 3 areas of the defence and in today's value of players £13m is about right for you average run of the mill defender which indi is better than.
What really fucking grinds me is how do you go from smashing the club transfer fee by a clear £6m+ on a complete unknown like imbula to penny pinching on arguably one of our most cosistant players of last year who everyone knows is a decent player ? It makes no sense. I hate bashing our club I really do but this stinks of incompetence and I'm pretty sure MH will be thinking exactly the same if he eventually does sign for the palace. Didn't Hughes leave Fulham after he cited they failed to have any ambition ? Some may see it as a blessing but if this happens he just might join Arnie in wanting out.
Whichever side of the Mark Hughes fence you sit on he's currently doing his job with his hands tied behind his back and I feel sorry for him.
Yet again premiership on the pitch and conference off it.
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Post by lee1982 on Jul 14, 2017 14:58:18 GMT
I really am struggling to come to terms with how our club operates when it comes to transfers. Whichever side of the argument you sit on with Indi value its clear that the one area of the team that needs large investment in the defence with upgrades needed in all 3 areas of the defence and in today's value of players £13m is about right for you average run of the mill defender which indi is better than. What really fucking grinds me is how do you go from smashing the club transfer fee by a clear £6m+ on a complete unknown like imbula to penny pinching on arguably one of our most cosistant players of last year who everyone knows is a decent player ? It makes no sense. I hate bashing our club I really do but this stinks of incompetence and I'm pretty sure MH will be thinking exactly the same if he eventually does sign for the palace. Didn't Hughes leave Fulham after he cited they failed to have any ambition ? Some may see it as a blessing but if this happens he just might join Arnie in wanting out. Whichever side of the Mark Hughes fence you sit on he's currently doing his job with his hands tied behind his back and I feel sorry for him. Yet again premiership on the pitch and conference off it. i wouldnt worry to much wont be premiership on the pitch for much longer
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Post by 99problems on Jul 14, 2017 14:58:29 GMT
I really am struggling to come to terms with how our club operates when it comes to transfers. Whichever side of the argument you sit on with Indi value its clear that the one area of the team that needs large investment in the defence with upgrades needed in all 3 areas of the defence and in today's value of players £13m is about right for you average run of the mill defender which indi is better than. What really fucking grinds me is how do you go from smashing the club transfer fee by a clear £6m+ on a complete unknown like imbula to penny pinching on arguably one of our most cosistant players of last year who everyone knows is a decent player ? It makes no sense. I hate bashing our club I really do but this stinks of incompetence and I'm pretty sure MH will be thinking exactly the same if he eventually does sign for the palace. Didn't Hughes leave Fulham after he cited they failed to have any ambition ? Some may see it as a blessing but if this happens he just might join Arnie in wanting out. Whichever side of the Mark Hughes fence you sit on he's currently doing his job with his hands tied behind his back and I feel sorry for him. Yet again premiership on the pitch and conference off it. Pretty much in line with my thoughts on the matter. It's like we actively want to have a wank season. Last season wasn't great with BMI, imagine how it could've panned out without him.
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Post by happyending on Jul 14, 2017 15:00:42 GMT
I really am struggling to come to terms with how our club operates when it comes to transfers. Whichever side of the argument you sit on with Indi value its clear that the one area of the team that needs large investment in the defence with upgrades needed in all 3 areas of the defence and in today's value of players £13m is about right for you average run of the mill defender which indi is better than. What really fucking grinds me is how do you go from smashing the club transfer fee by a clear £6m+ on a complete unknown like imbula to penny pinching on arguably one of our most cosistant players of last year who everyone knows is a decent player ? It makes no sense. I hate bashing our club I really do but this stinks of incompetence and I'm pretty sure MH will be thinking exactly the same if he eventually does sign for the palace. Didn't Hughes leave Fulham after he cited they failed to have any ambition ? Some may see it as a blessing but if this happens he just might join Arnie in wanting out. Whichever side of the Mark Hughes fence you sit on he's currently doing his job with his hands tied behind his back and I feel sorry for him. Yet again premiership on the pitch and conference off it. I agree, wouldn't be surprised at all if he leaves. His reputation is on the line after last season and I think he's taking the blame for other departments failings.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 14, 2017 15:05:56 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe on Jul 14, 2017 15:05:58 GMT
Please show a little patience, people are playing games
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 14, 2017 15:07:47 GMT
We're still monitoring the situation then? Good to know.
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Post by adi on Jul 14, 2017 15:10:11 GMT
We're still monitoring the situation then? Good to know. We're shit at transfers tho so I can well believe he'll go elsewhere. Whoever is responsible needs sacking imo
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 15:11:50 GMT
It's pretty simple now, we either match Palaces bid and let him decide or keep fucking about and lose him.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 14, 2017 15:13:18 GMT
It's pretty simple now, we either match Palaces bid and let him decide or keep fucking about and lose him. We obviously know what Palace have offered now so the ball is in our court, no room for haggling or pissing about, pay up or piss off.
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Post by butlerstbob on Jul 14, 2017 15:14:29 GMT
My head hurts!
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Post by LDE76 on Jul 14, 2017 15:16:36 GMT
"Stoke must now quickly push for a breakthrough in their own negotiations with Porto, which have proven frustrating over recent months as goalposts have been moved."
Push for a breakthrough? We need to equal or better Palace's offer and, if necessary, persuade the player. It's as simple as that, isn't it?
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Post by dadofsam on Jul 14, 2017 15:17:15 GMT
Could be he doesn't fancy Stoke as much because his mate Ryan won't be here?
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 14, 2017 15:18:24 GMT
This scenario brings home to me the importance of realising that football is not just about individuals, it's also about teamwork.
Bruno is an excellent player without being the greatest CB in the Prem. What is more important is he struck up a partnership with Shawcross that worked much better than any of Ryan's previous partners apart from probably Huth.
The club need to put a value on that partnership understanding, and cough up.
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Post by maliciousdamage on Jul 14, 2017 15:18:28 GMT
It's like watching a game of tennis! 🎾!!!!
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Jul 14, 2017 15:19:53 GMT
What a transfer week eh?
Nothing is ever simple with the mighty Potters!
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Post by Roger Everyone on Jul 14, 2017 15:21:13 GMT
Bruno medical tomorrow... yes but at Palace !
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 14, 2017 15:24:34 GMT
I really am struggling to come to terms with how our club operates when it comes to transfers. Whichever side of the argument you sit on with Indi value its clear that the one area of the team that needs large investment in the defence with upgrades needed in all 3 areas of the defence and in today's value of players £13m is about right for you average run of the mill defender which indi is better than. What really fucking grinds me is how do you go from smashing the club transfer fee by a clear £6m+ on a complete unknown like imbula to penny pinching on arguably one of our most cosistant players of last year who everyone knows is a decent player ? It makes no sense. I hate bashing our club I really do but this stinks of incompetence and I'm pretty sure MH will be thinking exactly the same if he eventually does sign for the palace. Didn't Hughes leave Fulham after he cited they failed to have any ambition ? Some may see it as a blessing but if this happens he just might join Arnie in wanting out. Whichever side of the Mark Hughes fence you sit on he's currently doing his job with his hands tied behind his back and I feel sorry for him. Yet again premiership on the pitch and conference off it. Spot on Hughes is being let down by the management team and must be seething. It's not the first time either it's pretty much every deal. Scholes needs to go it's clear he's incompetent.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 14, 2017 15:26:09 GMT
"Stoke must now quickly push for a breakthrough in their own negotiations with Porto, which have proven frustrating over recent months as goalposts have been moved." Push for a breakthrough? We need to equal or better Palace's offer and, if necessary, persuade the player. It's as simple as that, isn't it? Unless it's been kept quiet since January when we started this saga, Palace have had one shot and apparently got a deal. How come?
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