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Post by chigstoke on Jul 14, 2017 15:53:13 GMT
Good try guys and I admire your fortitude but deep down you know he's moving to a bigger club with better prospects of success no matter how you protest Cheers He really isn't though is he Crowd size is irrelevant to someone such as Arnie, see Newcastle, Sunderland and Middlesborough It's a money game, chuck money at someone, he'll follow it. Club loyalty means fuck all. Congratulations, you'll be getting a player who wants MORE MONEY, is he fuck going to West Ham, a humongous side step in footballing terms, for the flair and better prospects. You have as much chance at Top 6 as us. And don't give us the stadium spiel, you don't even own the bastard. Good to see taxpayers money going on your fucking ground. # And Payet didn't leave for family to Marseille either, he left because he though you couldn't compete and was worried about losing his place in the french team.
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Post by Mendicant on Jul 14, 2017 15:54:56 GMT
Good try guys and I admire your fortitude but deep down you know he's moving to a bigger club with better prospects of success no matter how you protest Cheers He's got better prospects of staff discount on a dildo, that's about it. Your club never seems to get its act together on or off the pitch the way other London clubs have.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 14, 2017 15:55:37 GMT
Good try guys and I admire your fortitude but deep down you know he's moving to a bigger club with better prospects of success no matter how you protest Cheers He really isn't though is he Crowd size is irrelevant to someone such as Arnie, see Newcastle, Sunderland and Middlesborough It's a money game, chuck money at someone, he'll follow it. Club loyalty means fuck all. Congratulations, you'll be getting a player who wants MORE MONEY, is he fuck going to West Ham, a humongous side step in footballing terms, for the flair and better prospects. You have as much chance at Top 6 as us. And don't give us the stadium spiel, you don't even own the bastard. Good to see taxpayers money going on your fucking ground. # And Payet didn't leave for family to Marseille either, he left because he though you couldn't compete and was worried about losing his place in the french team. I told him about Payet and he said I needed to do my research
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Post by Northy on Jul 14, 2017 15:55:57 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie seriously, yes it has the tourist attractions and a lot more terrorist attacks, but it's so expensive, and it's a right shithole in places, and they won't actually live in London but the surrounding commuter belt. Cheshire is the countrys richest county and offers what these multi milionaires want at a better price and has easy access to Manchester airport
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Post by Theninjabadger on Jul 14, 2017 15:57:28 GMT
Perhaps next time the government want to give away a 60000 seater stadium we will have a bigger crowd than you. As for challenging the europa pal, you got the same chance as us, winning a cup, if you think signing players like Arnie will break you into the top 6 your fucking delusional. The bloke will turn up once every 5 games or so and the other 4 will have you ripping your hair out. Out spending us year on, you do realise our owners are worth 5x more than your dildo weaving owners but there's a reason we aren't being investigated constantly by the taxman, we're ran properly
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 15:57:35 GMT
Is he still here? I thought he was going?
Must be after something.
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Post by jeycov on Jul 14, 2017 15:58:49 GMT
Anyway guys it's been lots of fun chatting and I realise when a player you like moves on (or seems likely to move on) he'll get stick and be accused of greed but if the transfer happens he'll be playing in front of crowds more than twice as big as yours in a team with better talent and definitely more flair so you should be happy for him There's a reason why he hasn't stayed at a "bigger club" than either West Ham or Stoke. With a point to prove, I expect him to make an impressive start wherever he plays next season. He has matured but will still need lots of support from his manager AND OWNERS of his chosen club. Can West Ham offer this?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 16:04:30 GMT
A cockney that isnt vermin is a rare thing indeed
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Post by sanmarinostokie on Jul 14, 2017 16:07:04 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie I fully accept that in the past 5 yrs we've been fairly level in terms of achievement, 3 yrs we've been higher in the league, 2 years you've been higher, but now that we have a 60K stadium, 52K season ticket holders (second to Man Utd in England) its highly likely that we will outspend you significantly year on year and we'll have a chance to challenge for Europa Lge at least whilst Stoke will be mid table at best. That's no disrespect to Stoke, it's just reality We have a much higher profile than Stoke, more press attention and I'd say more talent (though there's not much in it at present) and the gap between us is likely to widen as time passes. Arnie and his advisors know this and whilst a bigger contract is of course a big reason for the move he wouldn't be moving to a Watford or a Brighton if they offered him a wage increase as he' d realise that their ambitions are limited just to survival I'll put my tin hat on and prepare for some stick now Trophies in your history are irrelevant to a player. They don't care, why should they? Unless they were very recent, like Leicester. Otherwise Nottingham Forest would sign Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo. Crowds are again irrelevant to a player, they don't care how many they play in front of. Man City have a smaller stadium than you yet have Sergio aguero and you have Andy Carroll. Fanbase, nobody cares, unless he were to get a cut of the money from every shirt sale with his name which he won't so another stupid argument. The attraction of London, yes ok, that is a reasonable point, as are the resources but it is about how you spend that money and you have spent it poorly.
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Post by burge2u on Jul 14, 2017 16:07:13 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie seriously, yes it has the tourist attractions and a lot more terrorist attacks, but it's so expensive, and it's a right shithole in places, and they won't actually live in London but the surrounding commuter belt. Cheshire is the countrys richest county and offers what these multi milionaires want at a better price and has easy access to Manchester airport I wouldn't live in London for a gold pig.
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 14, 2017 16:08:01 GMT
At present yes Sheikh but the stadium gives us a fighting chance of challenging for top 7 over the next few years as I'm sure you'd accept You certainly got a good deal on it dave Will it though, will your additional stadium revenue provide significant additional resource compared to say the next overseas rights deal? Ticket income is still miniscule isn't it compared to other revenue streams? As for potential, we have owners who literally shit money and will continue to do so unabashed. If gambling opens up in America the zeros for these people will be endless. Sadly at the moment our money shitters all seem to be on the Immodium! Quite right though there are only so many dildo you can fit in a drawer (speaking from experience) but there is always something bet on somewhere. Perhaps we are just playing the long game and won't be long before the bubble bursts for more than one club in the premier league from over reaching
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 14, 2017 16:09:22 GMT
seriously, yes it has the tourist attractions and a lot more terrorist attacks, but it's so expensive, and it's a right shithole in places, and they won't actually live in London but the surrounding commuter belt. Cheshire is the countrys richest county and offers what these multi milionaires want at a better price and has easy access to Manchester airport I wouldn't live in London for a gold pig. I would then sell it and move 😉
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 16:12:10 GMT
seriously, yes it has the tourist attractions and a lot more terrorist attacks, but it's so expensive, and it's a right shithole in places, and they won't actually live in London but the surrounding commuter belt. Cheshire is the countrys richest county and offers what these multi milionaires want at a better price and has easy access to Manchester airport I wouldn't live in London for a gold pig. I would, get the pig then move back again
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Post by StoneSCFC on Jul 14, 2017 16:12:38 GMT
I'd rather eat my own shit that live in London, I can just about manage a fucking weekend in that hell hole!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 14, 2017 16:21:24 GMT
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/de-boer-wants-martins-indi-at-palace-s3kqvsjj9A third bid by West Ham United for Marko Arnautovic will have to take account of a 20 per cent sell-on clause agreed when Stoke City signed the forward from Werder Bremen 2013. Stoke turned down a second offer of £20 million earlier this week but Slaven Bilic, the West Ham manager, is understood to be confident that a deal for Arnautovic, who has asked for a transfer, will go through.
Paul Joyce in the Times also mentioning an alleged 20% sell-on.
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Post by bolders on Jul 14, 2017 16:22:26 GMT
I hope he revels in the London life and reverts back to being the knobish lad he was before he came here
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Post by bolders on Jul 14, 2017 16:24:12 GMT
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/de-boer-wants-martins-indi-at-palace-s3kqvsjj9A third bid by West Ham United for Marko Arnautovic will have to take account of a 20 per cent sell-on clause agreed when Stoke City signed the forward from Werder Bremen 2013. Stoke turned down a second offer of £20 million earlier this week but Slaven Bilic, the West Ham manager, is understood to be confident that a deal for Arnautovic, who has asked for a transfer, will go through.
Paul Joyce in the Times also mentioning an alleged 20% sell-on. Hope there isnt a 20% clause in the contract and we have slipped that bit of false info out to push the price up abit lol
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Post by daveo67 on Jul 14, 2017 16:39:11 GMT
I'm from Manchester - born and bred - and whilst I wouldn't want to live in London, players (and their wives) certainly do Not quite sure Stoke has the same attraction, fabulous as it may be I've clearly touched a nerve by daring to suggest your best player wants to play for a bigger club, and of course for more money and I'm sorry if that's upset some of you but it's better to accept the truth now than be hurt more in the future As for the tax investigation one of you mentioned, that's now on the back burner and will no doubt disappear into the long grass Yes we got a great deal on our new stadium which is precisely why we can spend the extra revenue on player recruitment in the future. 15th richest club in the world and that's before the new stadium is factored in. 7th in England well above Everton. Stoke just about get into the top 30 with less than half the revenue of WH even when we were at Upton Park I won't hold my breath and expect any massive spending at the Britannia in the foreseeable future. You're obviously content wth 10th being the pinnacle of your expectations not to forget the massive derby with P Vale every few years See you soon
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jul 14, 2017 16:39:39 GMT
A better chance of success at West Ham?
Slither back to that taxpayer funded toilet of a stadium and sit nice and quietly whilst you're blinded by the guff from Karen Brady's swamp-like quim every matchday, and take that colossal, selfish dickbag Arnautovic and his pointless skidmark of a brother with you.
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Post by Kjones9 on Jul 14, 2017 16:41:06 GMT
I'm from Manchester - born and bred - and whilst I wouldn't want to live in London, players (and their wives) certainly do Not quite sure Stoke has the same attraction, fabulous as it may be I've clearly touched a nerve by daring to suggest your best player wants to play for a bigger club, and of course for more money and I'm sorry if that's upset some of you but it's better to accept the truth now than be hurt more in the future As for the tax investigation one of you mentioned, that's now on the back burner and will no doubt disappear into the long grass Yes we got a great deal on our new stadium which is precisely why we can spend the extra revenue on player recruitment in the future. 15th richest club in the world and that's before the new stadium is factored in. 7th in England well above Everton. Stoke just about get into the top 30 with less than half the revenue of WH even when we were at Upton Park I won't hold my breath and expect any massive spending at the Britannia in the foreseeable future. You're obviously content wth 10th being the pinnacle of your expectations not to forget the massive derby with P Vale every few years See you soon So who have you bought then?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 14, 2017 16:42:40 GMT
I'm from Manchester - born and bred - and whilst I wouldn't want to live in London, players (and their wives) certainly do Not quite sure Stoke has the same attraction, fabulous as it may be I've clearly touched a nerve by daring to suggest your best player wants to play for a bigger club, and of course for more money and I'm sorry if that's upset some of you but it's better to accept the truth now than be hurt more in the future As for the tax investigation one of you mentioned, that's now on the back burner and will no doubt disappear into the long grass Yes we got a great deal on our new stadium which is precisely why we can spend the extra revenue on player recruitment in the future. 15th richest club in the world and that's before the new stadium is factored in. 7th in England well above Everton. Stoke just about get into the top 30 with less than half the revenue of WH even when we were at Upton Park I won't hold my breath and expect any massive spending at the Britannia in the foreseeable future. You're obviously content wth 10th being the pinnacle of your expectations not to forget the massive derby with P Vale every few years See you soon Britannia? Nah you're right, wouldn't expect much money being ploughed into a mythical place either tbf. Bye then.
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Post by Bowyer83 on Jul 14, 2017 16:42:49 GMT
A better chance of success at West Ham? Slither back to that taxpayer funded toilet of a stadium and sit nice and quietly whilst you're blinded by the guff from Karen Brady's swamp-like quim every matchday, and take that colossal, selfish dickbag Arnautovic and his pointless skidmark of a brother with you. Spoken like a poet Mack!
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Jul 14, 2017 16:46:19 GMT
I'm from Manchester - born and bred - and whilst I wouldn't want to live in London, players (and their wives) certainly do Not quite sure Stoke has the same attraction, fabulous as it may be I've clearly touched a nerve by daring to suggest your best player wants to play for a bigger club, and of course for more money and I'm sorry if that's upset some of you but it's better to accept the truth now than be hurt more in the future As for the tax investigation one of you mentioned, that's now on the back burner and will no doubt disappear into the long grass Yes we got a great deal on our new stadium which is precisely why we can spend the extra revenue on player recruitment in the future. 15th richest club in the world and that's before the new stadium is factored in. 7th in England well above Everton. Stoke just about get into the top 30 with less than half the revenue of WH even when we were at Upton Park I won't hold my breath and expect any massive spending at the Britannia in the foreseeable future. You're obviously content wth 10th being the pinnacle of your expectations not to forget the massive derby with P Vale every few years See you soon You do realise he's just going to do the same to you in a couple years? You might think you're a massive club but you've got barely any more of a chance of getting in to the top six as at least five other clubs. Don't kid yourself into thinking it's for anything other than location or money. You're just as much a stepping stone for any ambitious player, the same as Stoke are. Fans of both clubs should accept that by now. What's annoyed other Stoke fans is the fact he claims we're lacking ambition whilst taking barely anything more than a sideways step. This isn't the first time he's threatened to leave. Players come and go so I won't be that fussed.
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Post by stroller on Jul 14, 2017 16:47:17 GMT
I'm from Manchester - born and bred - and whilst I wouldn't want to live in London, players (and their wives) certainly do Not quite sure Stoke has the same attraction, fabulous as it may be I've clearly touched a nerve by daring to suggest your best player wants to play for a bigger club, and of course for more money and I'm sorry if that's upset some of you but it's better to accept the truth now than be hurt more in the future As for the tax investigation one of you mentioned, that's now on the back burner and will no doubt disappear into the long grass Yes we got a great deal on our new stadium which is precisely why we can spend the extra revenue on player recruitment in the future. 15th richest club in the world and that's before the new stadium is factored in. 7th in England well above Everton. Stoke just about get into the top 30 with less than half the revenue of WH even when we were at Upton Park I won't hold my breath and expect any massive spending at the Britannia in the foreseeable future. You're obviously content wth 10th being the pinnacle of your expectations not to forget the massive derby with P Vale every few years See you soon Run along now, there's a good chap.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 16:51:23 GMT
Do not feed the fukwit troll.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 16:54:31 GMT
I love the way someone who lives in Beckton or Ilford talks about London like they live in St Johns Wood or Little Venice and go through life jumping in an out of black cabs and visiting all the local hangouts. The reality is they go into central London about as often as your average Northerner.......
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Post by stokemark on Jul 14, 2017 17:06:35 GMT
West Ham are a bigger club than Stoke in pretty much every traditional sense - Not sure why we are trying to argue the toss about that
What I will say is that Arnie is unlikely to win more trophies at West Ham as they are like us - ultimately makeweights in a 6/7 club league.
He is clearly going to earn more money and like it or not get a greater profile at West Ham (if that's what floats his boat) - I just think he needs to be honest about his motives.
As for ambition then we are clearly showing fuck all so he has decided to utilize that excuse to justify his departure.
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Post by mattface on Jul 14, 2017 17:09:13 GMT
Have they stumped up the £30+ mil for Arnie yet?
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Post by stokeoptimist on Jul 14, 2017 17:17:52 GMT
West Ham are a bigger club than Stoke in pretty much every traditional sense - Not sure why we are trying to argue the toss about that What I will say is that Arnie is unlikely to win more trophies at West Ham as they are like us - ultimately makeweights in a 6/7 club league. He is clearly going to earn more money and like it or not get a greater profile at West Ham (if that's what floats his boat) - I just think he needs to be honest about his motives. As for ambition then we are clearly showing fuck all so he has decided to utilize that excuse to justify his departure. Yes but there's just one little thing though, we don't have to sell him
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Post by This is the year on Jul 14, 2017 17:22:48 GMT
I'm from Manchester - born and bred - and whilst I wouldn't want to live in London, players (and their wives) certainly do Not quite sure Stoke has the same attraction, fabulous as it may be I've clearly touched a nerve by daring to suggest your best player wants to play for a bigger club, and of course for more money and I'm sorry if that's upset some of you but it's better to accept the truth now than be hurt more in the future As for the tax investigation one of you mentioned, that's now on the back burner and will no doubt disappear into the long grass Yes we got a great deal on our new stadium which is precisely why we can spend the extra revenue on player recruitment in the future. 15th richest club in the world and that's before the new stadium is factored in. 7th in England well above Everton. Stoke just about get into the top 30 with less than half the revenue of WH even when we were at Upton Park I won't hold my breath and expect any massive spending at the Britannia in the foreseeable future. You're obviously content wth 10th being the pinnacle of your expectations not to forget the massive derby with P Vale every few years See you soon Vale fan ?
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