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Post by daveo67 on Jul 14, 2017 14:51:35 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie I fully accept that in the past 5 yrs we've been fairly level in terms of achievement, 3 yrs we've been higher in the league, 2 years you've been higher, but now that we have a 60K stadium, 52K season ticket holders (second to Man Utd in England) its highly likely that we will outspend you significantly year on year and we'll have a chance to challenge for Europa Lge at least whilst Stoke will be mid table at best. That's no disrespect to Stoke, it's just reality We have a much higher profile than Stoke, more press attention and I'd say more talent (though there's not much in it at present) and the gap between us is likely to widen as time passes. Arnie and his advisors know this and whilst a bigger contract is of course a big reason for the move he wouldn't be moving to a Watford or a Brighton if they offered him a wage increase as he' d realise that their ambitions are limited just to survival I'll put my tin hat on and prepare for some stick now
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Post by stoke4eva on Jul 14, 2017 14:55:04 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie I fully accept that in the past 5 yrs we've been fairly level in terms of achievement, 3 yrs we've been higher in the league, 2 years you've been higher, but now that we have a 60K stadium, 52K season ticket holders (second to Man Utd in England) its highly likely that we will outspend you significantly year on year and we'll have a chance to challenge for Europa Lge at least whilst Stoke will be mid table at best. That's no disrespect to Stoke, it's just reality We have a much higher profile than Stoke, more press attention and I'd say more talent (though there's not much in it at present) and the gap between us is likely to widen as time passes. Annie and his advisors know this and whilst a bigger contract is of course a big reason for the move he wouldn't be moving to a Watford or a Brighton if they offered him a wage increase as he' d realise that their ambitions are limited just to survival I'll put my tin hat on and prepare for some stick now annie?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 14, 2017 14:58:56 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie I fully accept that in the past 5 yrs we've been fairly level in terms of achievement, 3 yrs we've been higher in the league, 2 years you've been higher, but now that we have a 60K stadium, 52K season ticket holders (second to Man Utd in England) its highly likely that we will outspend you significantly year on year and we'll have a chance to challenge for Europa Lge at least whilst Stoke will be mid table at best. That's no disrespect to Stoke, it's just reality We have a much higher profile than Stoke, more press attention and I'd say more talent (though there's not much in it at present) and the gap between us is likely to widen as time passes. Annie and his advisors know this and whilst a bigger contract is of course a big reason for the move he wouldn't be moving to a Watford or a Brighton if they offered him a wage increase as he' d realise that their ambitions are limited just to survival I'll put my tin hat on and prepare for some stick now You have the same chance as us, very little, there's hardly a fag paper between us, Arnie wont give a shit about the trophies you've won in the past, the bigger contract is the only reason.
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Post by daveo67 on Jul 14, 2017 14:58:59 GMT
Got it spelt right once and wrong once but edited now
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 14, 2017 14:59:55 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie I fully accept that in the past 5 yrs we've been fairly level in terms of achievement, 3 yrs we've been higher in the league, 2 years you've been higher, but now that we have a 60K stadium, 52K season ticket holders (second to Man Utd in England) its highly likely that we will outspend you significantly year on year and we'll have a chance to challenge for Europa Lge at least whilst Stoke will be mid table at best. That's no disrespect to Stoke, it's just reality We have a much higher profile than Stoke, more press attention and I'd say more talent (though there's not much in it at present) and the gap between us is likely to widen as time passes. Annie and his advisors know this and whilst a bigger contract is of course a big reason for the move he wouldn't be moving to a Watford or a Brighton if they offered him a wage increase as he' d realise that their ambitions are limited just to survival I'll put my tin hat on and prepare for some stick now I Agree with the majority of what you've said. What angers me is the fact that Arnie said he was loyal, how it would only take an offer from a Champions league club to make him leave. With all due respect sir, West Ham are nothing compared to AC Milan or Sevilla. Arnie was also linked to Roma but he chooses West Ham are club of which I think is a mid table team. Now, We all know he's only going for the money.
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Post by Clayton Wood on Jul 14, 2017 15:00:52 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie I fully accept that in the past 5 yrs we've been fairly level in terms of achievement, 3 yrs we've been higher in the league, 2 years you've been higher, but now that we have a 60K stadium, 52K season ticket holders (second to Man Utd in England) its highly likely that we will outspend you significantly year on year and we'll have a chance to challenge for Europa Lge at least whilst Stoke will be mid table at best. That's no disrespect to Stoke, it's just reality We have a much higher profile than Stoke, more press attention and I'd say more talent (though there's not much in it at present) and the gap between us is likely to widen as time passes. Arnie and his advisors know this and whilst a bigger contract is of course a big reason for the move he wouldn't be moving to a Watford or a Brighton if they offered him a wage increase as he' d realise that their ambitions are limited just to survival I'll put my tin hat on and prepare for some stick now And an ongoing HMRC investigation. Yup, guess you have it all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 15:01:07 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie I fully accept that in the past 5 yrs we've been fairly level in terms of achievement, 3 yrs we've been higher in the league, 2 years you've been higher, but now that we have a 60K stadium, 52K season ticket holders (second to Man Utd in England) its highly likely that we will outspend you significantly year on year and we'll have a chance to challenge for Europa Lge at least whilst Stoke will be mid table at best. That's no disrespect to Stoke, it's just reality We have a much higher profile than Stoke, more press attention and I'd say more talent (though there's not much in it at present) and the gap between us is likely to widen as time passes. Annie and his advisors know this and whilst a bigger contract is of course a big reason for the move he wouldn't be moving to a Watford or a Brighton if they offered him a wage increase as he' d realise that their ambitions are limited just to survival I'll put my tin hat on and prepare for some stick now You won't break the Top 7 and the furthest you'll go is 8th. Where you might out perform us is in the cups, and even then you need a pinch of luck. He's going for the money mate. You know it, I know it and everyone else knows it. As we've seen in the North East, crowd sizes are meaningless. Both have been in the Championship in recent times. It's every inch a sideways step just like going from Watford to Burnley or Stoke to Southampton etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 15:01:49 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie I fully accept that in the past 5 yrs we've been fairly level in terms of achievement, 3 yrs we've been higher in the league, 2 years you've been higher, but now that we have a 60K stadium, 52K season ticket holders (second to Man Utd in England) its highly likely that we will outspend you significantly year on year and we'll have a chance to challenge for Europa Lge at least whilst Stoke will be mid table at best. That's no disrespect to Stoke, it's just reality We have a much higher profile than Stoke, more press attention and I'd say more talent (though there's not much in it at present) and the gap between us is likely to widen as time passes. Arnie and his advisors know this and whilst a bigger contract is of course a big reason for the move he wouldn't be moving to a Watford or a Brighton if they offered him a wage increase as he' d realise that their ambitions are limited just to survival I'll put my tin hat on and prepare for some stick now You're not the massive club you lot think you are, 8th is the best you can do for the foreseeable future and Arnie is coming for the money, don't kid yourself that it's anything else.
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 14, 2017 15:02:16 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie I fully accept that in the past 5 yrs we've been fairly level in terms of achievement, 3 yrs we've been higher in the league, 2 years you've been higher, but now that we have a 60K stadium, 52K season ticket holders (second to Man Utd in England) its highly likely that we will outspend you significantly year on year and we'll have a chance to challenge for Europa Lge at least whilst Stoke will be mid table at best. That's no disrespect to Stoke, it's just reality We have a much higher profile than Stoke, more press attention and I'd say more talent (though there's not much in it at present) and the gap between us is likely to widen as time passes. Annie and his advisors know this and whilst a bigger contract is of course a big reason for the move he wouldn't be moving to a Watford or a Brighton if they offered him a wage increase as he' d realise that their ambitions are limited just to survival I'll put my tin hat on and prepare for some stick now The highlighted above is the reason Stoke fans are confused as to why Arnie is suddenly agitating for a move, If a top 6 club came for him or a top European side we'd probably wish him well. Like it or not he's making a sideways move to a similar club who play in a soulless council playing field
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Post by daveo67 on Jul 14, 2017 15:03:30 GMT
You're entitled to your opinion boskamps but surely you must realise that our ambitions are now much higher than yours due to the profile and revenue from the new stadium
We're now the 15th richest club in the world and whilst I wish money wasn't so important in football it is these days and we are a much wealthier club than you are and the gap will increase. That's no guarantee of success but makes us more likely to challenge for trophies in the future
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 14, 2017 15:04:46 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie I fully accept that in the past 5 yrs we've been fairly level in terms of achievement, 3 yrs we've been higher in the league, 2 years you've been higher, but now that we have a 60K stadium, 52K season ticket holders (second to Man Utd in England) its highly likely that we will outspend you significantly year on year and we'll have a chance to challenge for Europa Lge at least whilst Stoke will be mid table at best. That's no disrespect to Stoke, it's just reality We have a much higher profile than Stoke, more press attention and I'd say more talent (though there's not much in it at present) and the gap between us is likely to widen as time passes. Arnie and his advisors know this and whilst a bigger contract is of course a big reason for the move he wouldn't be moving to a Watford or a Brighton if they offered him a wage increase as he' d realise that their ambitions are limited just to survival I'll put my tin hat on and prepare for some stick now You're in the exact same league as us, the 7th to 20th league and always will be. No disrespect to West Ham it's just reality.
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Post by biglad180 on Jul 14, 2017 15:04:59 GMT
give us the 30 million and come back in 6 months and tell us if its money well spent, Ramadan is the future,
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Post by daveo67 on Jul 14, 2017 15:05:01 GMT
I didn't say we were massive Sorensen but we are a bigger club than Stoke and the gap will only widen over time
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Post by daveo67 on Jul 14, 2017 15:06:17 GMT
At present yes Sheikh but the stadium gives us a fighting chance of challenging for top 7 over the next few years as I'm sure you'd accept
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Post by Ryan_Shawjosh on Jul 14, 2017 15:08:08 GMT
As a Hammer I'm baffled as to why you guys don't think moving to a club with a bigger fanbase, bigger crowds, more resources, more trophies in our history plus the attraction of living in London isn't a step up for Arnie I fully accept that in the past 5 yrs we've been fairly level in terms of achievement, 3 yrs we've been higher in the league, 2 years you've been higher, but now that we have a 60K stadium, 52K season ticket holders (second to Man Utd in England) its highly likely that we will outspend you significantly year on year and we'll have a chance to challenge for Europa Lge at least whilst Stoke will be mid table at best. That's no disrespect to Stoke, it's just reality We have a much higher profile than Stoke, more press attention and I'd say more talent (though there's not much in it at present) and the gap between us is likely to widen as time passes. Arnie and his advisors know this and whilst a bigger contract is of course a big reason for the move he wouldn't be moving to a Watford or a Brighton if they offered him a wage increase as he' d realise that their ambitions are limited just to survival I'll put my tin hat on and prepare for some stick now You might be a better prospect for players in terms of the geographical location but there's not much in the rest at all. You won't be breaking into the top six any time soon as they're miles ahead of everyone else so I don't see the reason for moving for any other reason than location or money.
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Post by liamo on Jul 14, 2017 15:08:58 GMT
I didn't say we were massive Sorensen but we are a bigger club than Stoke and the gap will only widen over time Arnie also turned down Everton who are a much bigger club than both of ours because we offered him more money Don't be fooled, he wants a bigger pay packet and that's it, with maybe a bit of London living being a bonus
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Post by daveo67 on Jul 14, 2017 15:09:29 GMT
Sorry numpty but we "were" a similar club but that has now changed and we are looking to challenge for top 6 in the long term which Stoke will never aspire to I'm afraid
Money talks in football and our revenue now greatly exceeds yours and the gap will only continue to grow
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Post by butlerstbob on Jul 14, 2017 15:10:11 GMT
You're entitled to your opinion boskamps but surely you must realise that our ambitions are now much higher than yours due to the profile and revenue from the new stadium We're now the 15th richest club in the world and whilst I wish money wasn't so important in football it is these days and we are a much wealthier club than you are and the gap will increase. That's no guarantee of success but makes us more likely to challenge for trophies in the future Are you sure that's right? and if it is its us tax paying fuckers that's helped!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 14, 2017 15:10:25 GMT
You're entitled to your opinion boskamps but surely you must realise that our ambitions are now much higher than yours due to the profile and revenue from the new stadiumWe're now the 15th richest club in the world and whilst I wish money wasn't so important in football it is these days and we are a much wealthier club than you are and the gap will increase. That's no guarantee of success but makes us more likely to challenge for trophies in the future Not really, it just means you have a bigger stadium and you'll have a bit more money, most midtable clubs have ambitions to push on and try and challenge for a european place, but since Everton have sorted themselves out I don't think it'll be happening anytime soon for anyone. The kind of money we're talking about is nothing compared to those 7th upwards and whilst you may have more and spend a little more it won't be enough. We're pretty similar in a lot of aspects, both midtable, both would like to push on, the only real difference is you're willing to pay more for being midtable than we are.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 15:11:09 GMT
You're entitled to your opinion boskamps but surely you must realise that our ambitions are now much higher than yours due to the profile and revenue from the new stadium We're now the 15th richest club in the world and whilst I wish money wasn't so important in football it is these days and we are a much wealthier club than you are and the gap will increase. That's no guarantee of success but makes us more likely to challenge for trophies in the future I admire through gritted teeth the way your owners and the pig in knickers have hoodwinked the British taxpayer. It's quite the footballing equivalent of a rock n' roll swindle.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 14, 2017 15:11:28 GMT
Sorry numpty but we "were" a similar club but that has now changed and we are looking to challenge for top 6 in the long term which Stoke will never aspire to I'm afraid Money talks in football and our revenue now greatly exceeds yours and the gap will only continue to grow Money talks? Tell the dildo twins to stop offering peanuts and come back with some conkers then.
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 14, 2017 15:11:41 GMT
Dave, we're having a rant because most of us love Arnie and we don't want to lose him. Talking sense on here will get you nowhere. My Mrs is a Hammer so it's particularly sensitive for me. He's a very good player but blows hot and cold as I'm sure you're aware. Him and Antonio on the flanks and Lanzini behind a decent striker and you'll be looking good.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 14, 2017 15:11:52 GMT
Sorry numpty but we "were" a similar club but that has now changed and we are looking to challenge for top 6 in the long term which Stoke will never aspire to I'm afraidMoney talks in football and our revenue now greatly exceeds yours and the gap will only continue to grow Neither will you, I'm sorry to break it to you but its just the way it is.
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 14, 2017 15:11:53 GMT
Im baffled why Arnie didn't choose AC Milan. Much bugger Staduim. Admittedly not in the champions league but will challenge for it. Richer club. Better history than West Ham. It's all for the $$$$$$$$
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Post by daveo67 on Jul 14, 2017 15:12:03 GMT
Liamo - Everton aren't a "much bigger club than us" at all now that we have a 60K stadium we sell out every week and 52K season ticket holders
They are spending big this summer but you'll see our spending grow significantly over the next couple of years
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Post by wearepremierleague on Jul 14, 2017 15:12:31 GMT
To be fair West Ham's new stadium worked wonders for them last year
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jul 14, 2017 15:13:04 GMT
Liamo - Everton aren't a "much bigger club than us" at all now that we have a 60K stadium we sell out every week and 52K season ticket holders They are spending big this summer but you'll see our spending grow significantly over the next couple of years I'll change my mind when you're spending 150/200 million.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 15:13:35 GMT
Your main argument is a stadium that you don't even own and will never fill on a regular basis.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jul 14, 2017 15:13:49 GMT
At present yes Sheikh but the stadium gives us a fighting chance of challenging for top 7 over the next few years as I'm sure you'd accept You certainly got a good deal on it dave Will it though, will your additional stadium revenue provide significant additional resource compared to say the next overseas rights deal? Ticket income is still miniscule isn't it compared to other revenue streams? As for potential, we have owners who literally shit money and will continue to do so unabashed. If gambling opens up in America the zeros for these people will be endless. Sadly at the moment our money shitters all seem to be on the Immodium!
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Post by StokieNath on Jul 14, 2017 15:14:08 GMT
Liamo - Everton aren't a "much bigger club than us" at all now that we have a 60K stadium we sell out every week and 52K season ticket holders They are spending big this summer but you'll see our spending grow significantly over the next couple of years Until you sell a player for 75 million then your nothing compared to Everton. They also have a better history than yourselves.
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