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Post by nott1 on Jul 10, 2017 16:28:34 GMT
Have the club made any statement about the lack of ambition comment? Don't suppose they have or will. Too busy getting Messi in.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 16:28:49 GMT
I'm really interested in seeing how this plays out. Swansea have shown their bollocks today by putting a £40m price tag on siguarsson, not because they think he's worth it but they simply don't want to lose their best player and the amount of money being thrown around is ridiculous. If I was PC I'd be having a press conference first thing in the morning slapping a £30m price tag on him and saying all bids below this will be automatically rejected. It's no longer about how much the player is worth but how much the buying club is willing to pay and he has the best part of 2 years left on his contract. We certainly won't be showing ambition by selling him for anything less in the current market. Yes, bang on this is the right approach. Who has turned his head? It can't be west ham surely? Like finding out the missus has been shagging Derek from next door
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Post by jimmygscfc on Jul 10, 2017 16:29:06 GMT
He'll go for £20 M plus in the end.
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Post by humbersidepotter on Jul 10, 2017 16:29:59 GMT
I wonder if the club already knew about this and this is why Verlinden has been promoted to the first team?
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Post by callas12 on Jul 10, 2017 16:29:59 GMT
Whilst the rumours of Arnies head being turned are quite plausible, I do question his timing in submitting a transfer request. Most clubs whose main players are seeking moves away aren't turning up for pre season training and are away busy sorting themselves moves out (ie Walters). So does this mean that Arnie has genuinely arrived back with us last Wednesday with all good intentions for the season ahead or has a few days back made him have a reality check that this seasons going to be no better than the last, or have extra £'s really been thrust under his nose and the club lacking ambition quote is just a guise?! Either or both are unfortunately quite probable.
Wonder if he submitted a written transfer request or had a meeting with Hughes/back room staff? & im presuming this has happened in Switzerland as opposed to back at Stoke else doubt he'd of flown out with the squad. As someone has mentioned, wonder where this leak to Sky Sources as originated from! Stoke's expected silence on this shock news will also add to the ?'s being asked. They really do need to get a grip of this situation early doors and make their stance clear what's happening to inform the fans where we're at and warn off other players who may follow suit.
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Post by mattface on Jul 10, 2017 16:31:11 GMT
Maximise the income and reinvest the way Southampton have done in the past couple of years. Will be disappointed if he goes especially to West Ham. The club will always be bigger.
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Post by Theninjabadger on Jul 10, 2017 16:31:16 GMT
I'm really interested in seeing how this plays out. Swansea have shown their bollocks today by putting a £40m price tag on siguarsson, not because they think he's worth it but they simply don't want to lose their best player and the amount of money being thrown around is ridiculous. If I was PC I'd be having a press conference first thing in the morning slapping a £30m price tag on him and saying all bids below this will be automatically rejected. It's no longer about how much the player is worth but how much the buying club is willing to pay and he has the best part of 2 years left on his contract. We certainly won't be showing ambition by selling him for anything less in the current market. According to the BBC Swansea turned down £40m today and put a £50m price tag on him. I want us to come out and say something similar. Instead of usual bullshit saying that we're disappointed and we will sit down and talk to his advisors
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Post by miggo on Jul 10, 2017 16:31:16 GMT
I'm really interested in seeing how this plays out. Swansea have shown their bollocks today by putting a £40m price tag on siguarsson, not because they think he's worth it but they simply don't want to lose their best player and the amount of money being thrown around is ridiculous. If I was PC I'd be having a press conference first thing in the morning slapping a £30m price tag on him and saying all bids below this will be automatically rejected. It's no longer about how much the player is worth but how much the buying club is willing to pay and he has the best part of 2 years left on his contract. We certainly won't be showing ambition by selling him for anything less in the current market. Why not £40million.  Arnie is better than Siggurdsson. I'd put them at the same level in terms of ability and importance to the club's but gylfi is 3 years younger so for that I'd say he demands a higher fee. It's all reletive to what each of their contracts are worth I suppose.
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 10, 2017 16:31:19 GMT
Wow. Just wow. How do you decipher that then? "Fuck this, I'm off to the pub!" That's not the decrypted post, it's what Alan Turing said before he left. Benji was his pen pal that's why he ate the cyanide infused apple. After he'd cracked enigma there was that feeling of being a true genius of his time, then read a letter from benji stuck two pieces of celery up his nose said "wobble" and chomped away
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 10, 2017 16:31:26 GMT
I hope you went for her best mate after.. Nah she weighed about 21 stone Fair size for Year 9 that is
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Post by podolipotter on Jul 10, 2017 16:31:46 GMT
Goodbye only if it is a very good sell.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 16:33:09 GMT
-Arnie eyes bigger move as contract talks come to a head -Arnie and Austria have a bang average tournament -No teams of any note come in for Arnie so he signs a new contract stating his love for the club -Clubs willing to pay Arnie a lot more than we do show an interest in him and turn his and his agents head. -Arnie hands in a transfer request citing "lack of ambition" That's how I see events, I love Arnie and he's the kind of player I want to see playing for us every week but if he wants to go then the buying club need to be prepared to put their money where their mouth is for a player with 3 years on his contract in his prime. And if he sulks step forward Sobhi, your opportunity awaits..... That is exactly how I read the situation.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 10, 2017 16:33:27 GMT
Someone's probably unsettled him
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Post by Fred Ferret on Jul 10, 2017 16:34:07 GMT
how classless traveling with your Club for it's pre-season tour and team building exercises and handing in your transfer request ::)Getting a bit more publicity eh by doing it whilst you're abroad? He's hot and cold these days anyway. I'm not exactly bursting with enthusiasm at our lack of transfer activity however I doubt Arnie's privy to all that goes on behind the scenes. So, head turning it is then. Oh, the modern footballer! Have to agree - utterly classless. How many goals did he score? Wait for the phone to ring, add £10m to any offer (£20m if it's a "big" club, and make him wait until we are happy.
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Post by madpotter on Jul 10, 2017 16:34:09 GMT
The price should be 30m for foreign or top 4 teams, and 35m for lesser teams, with a sycnical view he's 28 and this would be the last opportunity to get big money for him. It would be a massive loss, but IF we ever spend money he could be replaced, plus we've got Ramadan.
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Post by cozmick on Jul 10, 2017 16:34:17 GMT
If we get £30 million we're gonna need to spend at least £50 million to replace him.
Not to mention if Glenn and Peter leave.
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£100 million summer?
Who am I fucking kidding, we'll be in the shit the entire season.
Good times ahead.....again.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 10, 2017 16:34:24 GMT
When do we play West Ham? Need to make sure I'm doing something else on those days. He'd rip Glen Johnson a new one and end his career in the process.. which isn't a bad thing on reflection.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Jul 10, 2017 16:34:26 GMT
This happens to all small clubs, we need to get a decent few and Hughes needs to let Ramadan free in his place and use the money well.
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Post by Onneravineet on Jul 10, 2017 16:34:31 GMT
Gutted, absolutely gutted. I have been his fan since he first played for Stoke, the lad is full of quality!
However, anything north of £25 Million (we will get less than he is worth now due to him handing it in) and we need him gone.
Was my favourite player. He is dead to me now and can fuck off.
However, when done and dusted an autopsy is drastically needed! Serious questions absolutely need asking as currently the picture is not a good one. We should sell at a price we want to, right after we have gone out and spunked £50-60 million on three absolute quality players. Fuck him off to WetSham!
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 10, 2017 16:34:32 GMT
Whilst the rumours of Arnies head being turned are quite plausible, I do question his timing in submitting a transfer request. Most clubs whose main players are seeking moves away aren't turning up for pre season training and are away busy sorting themselves moves out (ie Walters). So does this mean that Arnie has genuinely arrived back with us last Wednesday with all good intentions for the season ahead or has a few days back made him have a reality check that this seasons going to be no better than the last, or have extra £'s really been thrust under his nose and the club lacking ambition quote is just a guise?! Either or both are unfortunately quite probable. Wonder if he submitted a written transfer request or had a meeting with Hughes/back room staff? & im presuming this has happened in Switzerland as opposed to back at Stoke else doubt he'd of flown out with the squad. As someone has mentioned, wonder where this leak to Sky Sources as originated from! Stoke's expected silence on this shock news will also add to the ?'s being asked. They really do need to get a grip of this situation early doors and make their stance clear what's happening to inform the fans where we're at and warn off other players who may follow suit. www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/10/marko-arnautovic-hands-transfer-request-stoke-reject-15m-west/Telegraph say it's a written transfer request after informal talks about leaving last week
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Post by lee1982 on Jul 10, 2017 16:34:48 GMT
Why not £40million.  Arnie is better than Siggurdsson. I'd put them at the same level in terms of ability and importance to the club's but gylfi is 3 years younger so for that I'd say he demands a higher fee. It's all reletive to what each of their contracts are worth I suppose. he's not 3 years younger than arnie
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Post by maninasuitcase on Jul 10, 2017 16:34:59 GMT
Isn't the first skilful player to leave and won't be the last. I'll wish him well and cheer for the next guy that takes his place.
To be honest I'd rather watch sobhi than Arnie.
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Post by nott1 on Jul 10, 2017 16:35:37 GMT
Someone's probably unsettled him Ramadan showed him up in training!
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Post by chigstoke on Jul 10, 2017 16:35:53 GMT
If we get £30 million we're gonna need to spend at least £50 million to replace him. Not to mention if Glenn and Peter leave. .... £100 million summer? Who am I fucking kidding, we'll be in the shit the entire season. Good times ahead.....again. We won't need £50 million to replace him though because we have Sobhi who is dying for game time But good god do we need a centre back and decent Glenn replacement should he leave.
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Post by PolPotter on Jul 10, 2017 16:36:36 GMT
I know he's inconsistent like we talk about on a regular basis but it's the signal it sends out to other players to me that's the issue.Also we've just extended the capacity of the ground so we can sell extra tickets🤔A lack of ambition/spend isn't going to do that If there was a lack of ambition why extend the ground? If the club had built an extra tier then I would say they were being ambitious but saying the current ground developments demonstrates ambition is daft. We're a premier league and therefore the ground always needs improving.
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Post by samba :) on Jul 10, 2017 16:37:24 GMT
Fuckk
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Jul 10, 2017 16:38:44 GMT
He's a class player but if he wants to go then he can fuck off and get hit by a van for all I care.
I just want to echo that I'd be more gutted with him going as it would be a symbol of capitulation.
It'd be on par with the Soviet flag hanging off the Reichstag and the fall of Saigon.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 10, 2017 16:40:15 GMT
He is 29 before this season finishes - so it's probably the last time we'd get a good fee for him where his age wouldn't play a massive part.
And if we are going slightly moneyball, that'll probably play a part.
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Post by jezzascfc on Jul 10, 2017 16:40:18 GMT
Whilst the rumours of Arnies head being turned are quite plausible, I do question his timing in submitting a transfer request. Most clubs whose main players are seeking moves away aren't turning up for pre season training and are away busy sorting themselves moves out (ie Walters). So does this mean that Arnie has genuinely arrived back with us last Wednesday with all good intentions for the season ahead or has a few days back made him have a reality check that this seasons going to be no better than the last, or have extra £'s really been thrust under his nose and the club lacking ambition quote is just a guise?! Either or both are unfortunately quite probable. Wonder if he submitted a written transfer request or had a meeting with Hughes/back room staff? & im presuming this has happened in Switzerland as opposed to back at Stoke else doubt he'd of flown out with the squad. As someone has mentioned, wonder where this leak to Sky Sources as originated from! Stoke's expected silence on this shock news will also add to the ?'s being asked. They really do need to get a grip of this situation early doors and make their stance clear what's happening to inform the fans where we're at and warn off other players who may follow suit. www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/10/marko-arnautovic-hands-transfer-request-stoke-reject-15m-west/Telegraph say it's a written transfer request after informal talks about leaving last week Reference to Wet Sham offering players in exchange - I cannot think of a single player of theirs that they would not want to lose that I would want at Stoke. All cash, 25m minimum, for me.
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Post by steinovschmeichel on Jul 10, 2017 16:40:21 GMT
Gutted. Stoke are shite without Arnie.
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