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Post by mattythestokie on Jul 10, 2017 15:50:39 GMT
He's on 80k-a-week though, isn't he? Are West Ham going to go much beyond that? Don't think they're known as big payers, are they? Their wage bill is very similar to ours London can be a big attraction to those outside of England. Chance to play in their stadium, a fresh challenge. But the lack of ambition is bullshit if he chooses go there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 15:50:47 GMT
If he wants to go then so be it, he owes us nothing and he gave the club a chance by signing a new contract. We seem to be going backwards at the moment rather than forwards and i won't blame him for going, i believe most people in his situation would do the same.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 10, 2017 15:52:34 GMT
Interesting to see if he plays tonight
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Post by wuzza on Jul 10, 2017 15:52:55 GMT
I have a feeling we will stand firm on this and will be looking for a huge fee in excess of 25-30 million at least! Problem is if there is one thing Arnie is world-class at its being moody - would we really want that around the club at the start of the season? As usual the players hold all the cards.
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Post by StoneSCFC on Jul 10, 2017 15:52:57 GMT
Disappointed at this news (timing of it is a cunts trick) but as a lot have said if true we need to extract maximum value from his transfer (which we seem to be shit at) and give Ramadan his chance. I think Ramadan will ultimately become the better player. He looks more reliable with his defensive duties and can go inside AND out when taking players on ( when was the last time we saw Arnie get to the line and swing a cross in for Crouchy to nod in). Onwards! That exact situation literally happened in the last game he played in, against Arsenal. ??? I stand corrected if true.. I was probably trying to hang myself at the time!!!!!!
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Post by bolders on Jul 10, 2017 15:53:02 GMT
I think the West Ham link is just click bait, I could see his head being turned by PSG or Milan not fucking West Ham they are in no better position than ourselves
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 15:53:05 GMT
Of course we've fallen behind Leicester they won the Premier League and spent last season in the far reaches of the Champions League. And we've fallen behind Bournemouth on the same way that Everton fell behind us the season before. A couple of points and one season changes nothing....
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jul 10, 2017 15:53:18 GMT
My boys will be absolutely devastated if this turns out to be true.
It's taken me 3 days to get pen off my youngest after he drew pictures all over his body, and I mean all over his body, so he could be like Arnie in his Stoke kit.
He's our best player by some distance and would be a huge loss to us.
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Post by StokeAz on Jul 10, 2017 15:53:39 GMT
15m is an absolute joke of an offer tbh but no doubt we'll end up with a typical massive undersell... it's only when players leave Stoke they become fairly valued! we've seen it all before with N'Zonzi and will no doubt see it in the future with Butland.
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Post by lancashirelad on Jul 10, 2017 15:54:20 GMT
I just hope if he leaves then it to a team that can win things abroad ie PSG. To see him at West Ham as pointed out a team on par with us ambition wise would be awful. Bad enough seeing SJW is claret and blue but Arnie and possibly Whelo it just looks shit on them
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 10, 2017 15:54:36 GMT
The problem for me in all this is the message it sends out to our perspective signings(if any),wth him stating lack of ambition
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 15:55:06 GMT
Young men are ambitious, London is a big draw but don't be surprised if he ends up at Newcastle.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jul 10, 2017 15:55:18 GMT
I think the West Ham link is just click bait, I could see his head being turned by PSG or Milan not fucking West Ham they are in no better position than ourselves It's not click bait is it, they've made a bid. Whether Arnie's seriously interested in them or using their interest as a stalking horse for a bigger club is the question.
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Post by gibby1409 on Jul 10, 2017 15:55:29 GMT
The ambition statement is bollocks imo. He's been tapped up by the dildo brothers promising big money and the bright lights of London!
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Post by Old School Stokie on Jul 10, 2017 15:56:00 GMT
we need a bigger Stadium and gates of between 40,000 & 50,000 to compete and be a lot more fashionable than STOKE - thats where we are - and we would still be in Championship or lower if it was not for Coates & Bet365.
Seriously we cannot compete with the big city clubs
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Post by barcaontrent on Jul 10, 2017 15:56:11 GMT
If he's sold for a penny less than £30 million the transfer team need shooting
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Post by NassauDave on Jul 10, 2017 15:56:14 GMT
how classless traveling with your Club for it's pre-season tour and team building exercises and handing in your transfer request ::)Getting a bit more publicity eh by doing it whilst you're abroad? He's hot and cold these days anyway. I'm not exactly bursting with enthusiasm at our lack of transfer activity however I doubt Arnie's privy to all that goes on behind the scenes. So, head turning it is then. Oh, the modern footballer! It was planned so he can go the short distance to his Mum's house when Ryan slaps him.
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Post by jwhpotter on Jul 10, 2017 15:56:29 GMT
Anyone who would be glad to see Arnie leave is a fucking stupid cunt. H I don't think its the fact that people would be glad to see him leave, we just feel betrayed and if he doesn't want to play for the club we all love anymore then we dont want him here
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Post by stokie1954 on Jul 10, 2017 15:56:41 GMT
Anyone who would be glad to see Arnie leave is a fucking stupid cunt. H Don't think the majority would be glad to see him leave. Just the way he uses ambition as a get out reason. Everton, yes, West Ham, do me a favour.
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Post by chad on Jul 10, 2017 15:57:39 GMT
Just got in and seen this news. So he's my two pennith. ........he can fuck right off ...... let's get £20m and get someone who wants the shirt. Ramadan can be a better player anyway
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Post by Ygor on Jul 10, 2017 15:57:45 GMT
Last thing you want in the squad is a player who doesn't want to play for you. I'm not convinced Arnie is such a big loss providing we reinvest (and there lies a problem!). I think he should be withdrawn from pre-season with Stoke now to avoid undermining the mood of the rest of the squad and sold promptly. It's not the end of the world.
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Post by Theninjabadger on Jul 10, 2017 15:58:21 GMT
Oh the irony how the dildo men moaned when Payet handed in a transfer request after getting "tapped up" by Marseille and now they do the same thing
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Post by jeycov on Jul 10, 2017 15:59:16 GMT
My only concern about Sobhi is that he might not offer the goal threat Arnie does. However, Yarmolenko has goals in him as does Shaq or Bojan at number 10. Out of interest, what is Yarmy's situation at the moment? Maybe true but, if he sets up others then fine
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 16:00:12 GMT
Young men are ambitious, London is a big draw but don't be surprised if he ends up at Newcastle. Oh, how we'd laugh...
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Post by philb on Jul 10, 2017 16:00:34 GMT
shame to see him go, however, is it fortune where the likes of Ramadan and Bojan can breathe new life into the squad with something to prove? £15m is a piss take from the dildo bros. If Arnies got any ambition he won't go there anyway but money talks I suppose.
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Post by happyending on Jul 10, 2017 16:00:52 GMT
Blessing in disguise. Can't wait to see Ramadan get a run now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 16:00:58 GMT
The problem for me in all this is the message it sends out to our perspective signings(if any),wth him stating lack of ambition Or it could act as the kick up the backside that the club needs to pull it's finger out. I'm clinging on to any positive I can at the moment. I might even wait until Radio Stoke announce that Arnie wants out before I believe the story. Should keep me blissfully happy until the weekend.
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Post by salopstick on Jul 10, 2017 16:01:29 GMT
After the uncertainty of last year and now this he's gone
No point point moaning
Just get the best deal we can
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Post by alster on Jul 10, 2017 16:01:54 GMT
My only concern about Sobhi is that he might not offer the goal threat Arnie does. However, Yarmolenko has goals in him as does Shaq or Bojan at number 10. Out of interest, what is Yarmy's situation at the moment? Maybe true but, if he sets up others then fine I would accept its something he needs to work on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2017 16:02:03 GMT
If true -plainly hes been tapped ( Arnie)
my favourite player - for some years now
but everyone has his price - they are after all, footballing mercenaries - every single one to a man !
so sadly he would go - and I would be absolutely gutted
but, anything under £35m and we will have sold ourselves very short (again)
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