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Post by flashman on Jun 27, 2017 13:45:16 GMT
Wall to wall hour by hour coverage of Brexit and other major atrocities that will invetibaly rear their ugly heads .
Ive always had a keen interest in the news and current affairs but just recently have become less interested by it all as the news editors keep devoting more and more time on the more tedious political rows between the two main parties . Everything seems to be micro analysed to point where it could send anyone over the age of fifty into a semi comatose state ....
I can see why increasing numbers of people seem to be switching off their TVs and in some cases doing without one altogether ...
The question is could you , or would you ? I think I could if I had retired and lived in a more remote rural area ....
I'd definitely have to hang onto some sports coverage though .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 13:48:53 GMT
Try 10 years fella. You'll lose count of the amount of court challenges/rulings that will come about as a result of Brexit. It will be painful.......
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Post by flashman on Jun 27, 2017 13:56:22 GMT
Try 10 years fella. You'll lose count of the amount of court challenges/rulings that will come about as a result of Brexit. It will be painful....... Yes ....that's true . Mind boggling . There seems to be an ongoing war or competition between the kuenssberg woman and others of a similar arrogance as to who can be the most rude and provocative to whoever she is asked to interview. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 14:07:00 GMT
Interesting one, this.
Are we to take it that we should abandon our televisions? There have been hints of favouring both technocracy and adhocracy in previous posts, but this is a chance to have a definitive answer once and for all. I can see the benefits of both, absolutely. Hopefully this is a chance to silence those members of the commentariat who allege inconsistency, though granted we came close to finding a position which harmonised a number of schools of thought in recent history. I might be inclined to argue that both mainstream views can be held concurrently, though we do risk facing a schism in the subject if we are not careful.
It is fantastic to observe this debate being opened up though, absolutely.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jun 27, 2017 14:25:18 GMT
The thing that really boils my blood
Is there insistence that they speak for me they speak for the nation
No they don't they speak for their agenda
I don't need a TV to tell me how I feel or should feel when there's a disaster
I know why I voted for what I did I don't need to be told it was for this or that reason
I am more than capable of speaking for myself
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jun 27, 2017 14:47:59 GMT
The BBC have lurched very far to the left recently and will do so even more now the DU 'abolish the licence fee' P have a say in Downing Street.
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Post by flashman on Jun 27, 2017 14:58:55 GMT
The BBC have lurched very far to the left recently and will do so even more now the DU 'abolish the licence fee' P have a say in Downing Street. They certainly have , and in doing so have left themselves wide open to less favourable taunts of unprofessionable behaviour not befitting a national news presenter . Burley is is another one who likes the sound of her own voice .....and if she sat astride me , I'd gladly listen intently and compassionately .  |
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 27, 2017 15:15:35 GMT
The BBC have lurched very far to the left recently and will do so even more now the DU 'abolish the licence fee' P have a say in Downing Street. Was listening to some no Mark BBC reporter questioning a spokesman from the FST about safe standing, question ... isn't it less likely now to pass this after the grenfell fire proving that fire safety regulations cannot be trusted |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 15:21:30 GMT
Got rid of sky tv 12 months ago
Recently cut out 90% of tv news
I've replaced it with more music and getting my arse moving (not to be mistaken with grooving)
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Post by capto on Jun 27, 2017 15:59:53 GMT
The BBC have lurched very far to the left recently and will do so even more now the DU 'abolish the licence fee' P have a say in Downing Street. Yeah, you're 'right' , since the beeb stopped sucking up to you far right flag wavers, it must be really annoying that they're just right wing. Oh well, it can't really be a surprise that people hold different views that you? And that all your shouting and name calling hasn't changed their minds? Maybe, just maybe, you're wrong? No no never, can't be, you're always right, never made a mistake in your life. What's the word for people like you? |
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Post by Gods on Jun 27, 2017 16:01:24 GMT
The BBC have lurched very far to the left recently and will do so even more now the DU 'abolish the licence fee' P have a say in Downing Street. Yes either that or there hasn't been much good news to report of late. |
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Post by hammered on Jun 27, 2017 16:28:02 GMT
Got rid of sky tv 12 months ago Recently cut out 90% of tv news I've replaced it with more music and getting my arse moving (not to be mistaken with grooving) Same; Got the old vinyl out - can hardly be bothered watching patronising, mind conditioning from the media these days when we can all see what's going on. Most layers of our social hierarchy from PM/Opposition, MP's, Local Authorities, Planners etc..along with MSM have all been exposed as self serving hypocrites; with only the dedication and professionalism of our Armed Services, Police, Fire, Ambulance, NHS etc..shown to be propping the bull-shit up. We are living in challenging times (not all BREXIT) if I'm honest, concerning times. Maybe the system needs a re-set cause the turmoil seems to be intensifying - May is weak and surrounded, opportunistic (dangerous) Corbyn in the wings, with indigenous populations' tolerance being tested. 10,000 football fans marched from St Pauls to London Bridge yesterday - but it doesn't suit the narrative..to report it.. You've got to think the authorities took note though...they can't be having football fans thought of as concerned citizens as a collective force now can they? "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell. |
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Post by Gods on Jun 27, 2017 16:50:21 GMT
Got rid of sky tv 12 months ago Recently cut out 90% of tv news I've replaced it with more music and getting my arse moving (not to be mistaken with grooving) Same; Got the old vinyl out - can hardly be bothered watching patronising, mind conditioning from the media these days when we can all see what's going on. Most layers of our social hierarchy from PM/Opposition, MP's, Local Authorities, Planners etc..along with MSM have all been exposed as self serving hypocrites; with only the dedication and professionalism of our Armed Services, Police, Fire, Ambulance, NHS etc..shown to be propping the bull-shit up. We are living in challenging times (not all BREXIT) if I'm honest, concerning times. Maybe the system needs a re-set cause the turmoil seems to be intensifying - May is weak and surrounded, opportunistic (dangerous) Corbyn in the wings, with indigenous populations' tolerance being tested. 10,000 football fans marched from St Pauls to London Bridge yesterday - but it doesn't suit the narrative..to report it.. You've got to think the authorities took note though...they can't be having football fans thought of as concerned citizens as a collective force now can they? "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell. Doesn't suit what narrative? There is no single narrative. The media is as broad as it is wide, from the right wing stance of the Murdoch press and Sky TV to the left wing position of Trinity Mirror and everything in between. Lots and lots of specialist outlets too with no political positioning, everything under the sun in fact. The test they would give it is 'tell me why my readers/viewers should care?'. "Some testosterone fuelled football fans calling themselves 'lads' marched in London today but no dissenting voices had the 'bollocks to turn up' whatever that implies" isn't going to cut it. If they didn't run it then it was because they thought there readership or viewers wouldn't care. For my benefit what was the message they took to London? Why were they in some way uniquely positioned to carry it? And who are they asking to do what and why? Otherwise it just looks like a few piss heads took half a day out of Wetherspoons in the close season to march in London. I am sure it was great fun but that doesn't make it news. Answer some of that and you might have half a story. |
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Post by flashman on Jun 27, 2017 17:03:20 GMT
Got rid of sky tv 12 months ago Recently cut out 90% of tv news I've replaced it with more music and getting my arse moving (not to be mistaken with grooving) Im getting rid of sky tomorrow . It remains to be seen as the new football season approaches as to whether it gets replaced . I've got that NOW TV which is ok , but not quite my cup of tea . I do like some of the other channels it provides like Nat Geo , Discovery etc , but I'm not a lover of the thousands of American junk shit dramas which feature ageing no mark actors and actresses keen to hang onto their Botox riddled faces . ITV is a complete no go area ....I can't abide most of the shit on Channel 4 ....and in all honesty the whole sorry state of British TV leaves a horrible taste in my mouth . I think SKY subscription must be in decline as I know of plenty that have parted company , but I suppose with a vast empire such as it is , then they won't be going bankrupt anytime soon . I suspect their subscription charges eleswhere in the EU will be far less than what we pay because a lot of EU countries are not as infatuated with it as we seem to pay . Obviously there is also the language barrier to consider but where applicable I expect its dubbed over with native tongue . Its what pays the highly paid Prima Donnas their crust and whilst it does , then the sun will shine out of sky's arse . That said .... A new rainbow of gold has now opened up in China to throw a spanner in the works ....watch this space .! |
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Post by potterinleeds on Jun 27, 2017 17:05:18 GMT
Wall to wall hour by hour coverage of Brexit and other major atrocities that will invetibaly rear their ugly heads . Ive always had a keen interest in the news and current affairs but just recently have become less interested by it all as the news editors keep devoting more and more time on the more tedious political rows between the two main parties . Everything seems to be micro analysed to point where it could send anyone over the age of fifty into a semi comatose state .... I can see why increasing numbers of people seem to be switching off their TVs and in some cases doing without one altogether ... The question is could you , or would you ? I think I could if I had retired and lived in a more remote rural area .... I'd definitely have to hang onto some sports coverage though . Easily. I watch very little TV nowadays, hardly ever open a newspaper, still listen to a fair bit of radio though. As I've entered my late 40s, I've gone back to reading widely again and spending as much time as possible outside - I'm lucky that I have a job that often allows me to be alone in reasonably remote places, with no phone / wifi coverage. It isn't a question of withdrawing from the world, just choosing how I engage with it - I still do as much as I can for my family, local community and causes that I support abroad. In addition, I constantly remind my teenage children that what they see isn't The News, just the news that that particular outlet has chosen to highlight. Like others on here, I too am tired of the cult of personality of the political presenter, whatever their supposed political biases are. Paxman's ludicrous posturing during the recent leaders' "interviews" was about the bottom of the barrel. Bring back Brian Walden. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 17:07:30 GMT
Got rid of sky tv 12 months ago Recently cut out 90% of tv news I've replaced it with more music and getting my arse moving (not to be mistaken with grooving) Same; Got the old vinyl out - can hardly be bothered watching patronising, mind conditioning from the media these days when we can all see what's going on. Most layers of our social hierarchy from PM/Opposition, MP's, Local Authorities, Planners etc..along with MSM have all been exposed as self serving hypocrites; with only the dedication and professionalism of our Armed Services, Police, Fire, Ambulance, NHS etc..shown to be propping the bull-shit up. We are living in challenging times (not all BREXIT) if I'm honest, concerning times. Maybe the system needs a re-set cause the turmoil seems to be intensifying - May is weak and surrounded, opportunistic (dangerous) Corbyn in the wings, with indigenous populations' tolerance being tested. 10,000 football fans marched from St Pauls to London Bridge yesterday - but it doesn't suit the narrative..to report it.. You've got to think the authorities took note though...they can't be having football fans thought of as concerned citizens as a collective force now can they? "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell. Excellent mate  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2017 17:15:42 GMT
Got rid of sky tv 12 months ago Recently cut out 90% of tv news I've replaced it with more music and getting my arse moving (not to be mistaken with grooving) Im getting rid of sky tomorrow . It remains to be seen as the new football season approaches as to whether it gets replaced . I've got that NOW TV which is ok , but not quite my cup of tea . I do like some of the other channels it provides like Nat Geo , Discovery etc , but I'm not a lover of the thousands of American junk shit dramas which feature ageing no mark actors and actresses keen to hang onto their Botox riddled faces . ITV is a complete no go area ....I can't abide most of the shit on Channel 4 ....and in all honesty the whole sorry state of British TV leaves a horrible taste in my mouth . I think SKY subscription must be in decline as I know of plenty that have parted company , but I suppose with a vast empire such as it is , then they won't be going bankrupt anytime soon . I suspect their subscription charges eleswhere in the EU will be far less than what we pay because a lot of EU countries are not as infatuated with it as we seem to pay . Obviously there is also the language barrier to consider but where applicable I expect its dubbed over with native tongue . Its what pays the highly paid Prima Donnas their crust and whilst it does , then the sun will shine out of sky's arse . That said .... A new rainbow of gold has now opened up in China to throw a spanner in the works ....watch this space .! I used to watch similar mate. but when you stand back and see that probably 2/3rds of it is just repeated over and over on their other channels i stopped it for the same reasons hammers mentioned along with making better use of my time same goes with my season ticket too.....will listen to radio at work and earn instead of spend mr Coates doesn't need my £400 a season anyway  |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Jun 27, 2017 17:37:44 GMT
Get most of me current affairs from short wave radio and the dawn and dusk choruses.
Not had an idiotbox for 20 years.
Did a bit of I playering on the laptop for documentaries and laughs but now you have to log in so they can 'better suit yr profile' I'm out.
I go me mum's to watch 'Come Dine With me' catch up on a sunday.
Disengaged from mainstream politics several decades ago.
Whoever you vote for.government wins.
Jezza's ok by me though.
I don't think I fully understand the question.
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Post by hammered on Jun 27, 2017 17:50:08 GMT
Gods I agree there is no single narrative to all that we see from our seemingly increasingly disfunctioning society. Left/right media - it's all the same and right is the new centre anyway.
There were plenty that went on that march yesterday who post on KUMB - from their accounts - a collective of usually rival groups having a common cause to unite against extremists and the discord in our society. 10,000 this time - how many next.
From what I've read I don't see them as offering solutions or a political message, just a reminder (as forgotten people) that they exist and that PC tolerance for many is being pushed. If 10,000, predominantly working class (core of UK including women/mixed ethnicity) no team colours, no politics, wreaths laid and a huge show of respect between usually bitter rivals marching across London isn't worthy of news - what is?!!
I'm sure if it was some minority group MSM would be all over it...there's your narrative..
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Post by rat on Jun 27, 2017 17:58:03 GMT
Gods I agree there is no single narrative to all that we see from our seemingly increasingly disfunctioning society. Left/right media - it's all the same and right is the new centre anyway. There were plenty that went on that march yesterday who post on KUMB - from their accounts - a collective of usually rival groups having a common cause to unite against extremists and the discord in our society. 10,000 this time - how many next. From what I've read I don't see them as offering solutions or a political message, just a reminder (as forgotten people) that they exist and that PC tolerance for many is being pushed. If 10,000, predominantly working class (core of UK including women/mixed ethnicity) no team colours, no politics, wreaths laid and a huge show of respect between usually bitter rivals marching across London isn't worthy of news - what is?!! I'm sure if it was some minority group MSM would be all over it...there's your narrative.. It was a part EDL march. What do you expect? |
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Post by robstokie on Jun 27, 2017 18:15:00 GMT
To be fair, the beeb is chock full of young, urban uni-educated feminists, anarchists and champagne socailists (ie. the Corbyn crowd), so is it any real surprise that the old Commie is idolised by those who work there. Its probably also why they wouldn't take on a non uni educated, white, working class, tory boy when I applied for a job with them a while back - because I am the antithesis of everything they stand for, and I believe they should have to make their own money rather than hitch a ride on the tax-payers back...
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Post by manmarking on Jun 27, 2017 18:48:16 GMT
To be fair, the beeb is chock full of young, urban uni-educated feminists, anarchists and champagne socailists (ie. the Corbyn crowd), so is it any real surprise that the old Commie is idolised by those who work there. Its probably also why they wouldn't take on a non uni educated, white, working class, tory boy when I applied for a job with them a while back - because I am the antithesis of everything they stand for, and I believe they should have to make their own money rather than hitch a ride on the tax-payers back... The BBC's own Political Editor was recently sanctioned for misreporting what Jeremy Corbyn said on shoot to kill. So evidently not that biased towards him. But don't let that get you downbeat about your job application rejection - if it helps your self-esteem, believe whatever gibberish you like  |
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Post by rat on Jun 27, 2017 18:50:56 GMT
To be fair, the beeb is chock full of young, urban uni-educated feminists, anarchists and champagne socailists (ie. the Corbyn crowd), so is it any real surprise that the old Commie is idolised by those who work there. Its probably also why they wouldn't take on a non uni educated, white, working class, tory boy when I applied for a job with them a while back - because I am the antithesis of everything they stand for, and I believe they should have to make their own money rather than hitch a ride on the tax-payers back... It sounds like you'd find radical Islam appealing, making those sort of comments |
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Post by manmarking on Jun 27, 2017 19:04:08 GMT
The BBC have lurched very far to the left recently and will do so even more now the DU 'abolish the licence fee' P have a say in Downing Street. Yeah, you're 'right' , since the beeb stopped sucking up to you far right flag wavers, it must be really annoying that they're just right wing. Oh well, it can't really be a surprise that people hold different views that you? And that all your shouting and name calling hasn't changed their minds? Maybe, just maybe, you're wrong? No no never, can't be, you're always right, never made a mistake in your life. What's the word for people like you? I think the word is "uninformed"  To be fair to owd todger, the BBC is left-leaning socially. It's very right-on. Too right-on in many ways. But todge can't get his head round the concept that a person or organisation can be socially leftist but economically rightist. I've explained this to him myriad times but he prefers to eschew my teachings in favour of the Twitter feeds of grey -skinned frothing adenoidal imbeciles like Paul Joseph Watson. And as you say, he's not exactly Mr Humility either. Each to their own On balance, both left and right are constantly moaning about BBC bias so to be fair, they're probably doing something right  |
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Post by rat on Jun 27, 2017 19:50:54 GMT
Yeah, you're 'right' , since the beeb stopped sucking up to you far right flag wavers, it must be really annoying that they're just right wing. Oh well, it can't really be a surprise that people hold different views that you? And that all your shouting and name calling hasn't changed their minds? Maybe, just maybe, you're wrong? No no never, can't be, you're always right, never made a mistake in your life. What's the word for people like you? I think the word is "uninformed" To be fair to owd todger, the BBC is left-leaning socially. It's very right-on. Too right-on in many ways. But todge can't get his head round the concept that a person or organisation can be socially leftist but economically rightist. I've explained this to him myriad times but he prefers to eschew my teachings in favour of the Twitter feeds of grey -skinned frothing adenoidal imbeciles like Paul Joseph Watson. And as you say, he's not exactly Mr Humility either. Each to their own On balance, both left and right are constantly moaning about BBC bias so to be fair, they're probably doing something right I much prefer UK CNN these days, obviously as long as Richard Quest gets a wide berth |
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