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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 12:12:17 GMT
If they knock it down to 60 minutes, that's me finished!
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 18, 2017 12:18:11 GMT
Where the fuck do these people dream up shit like this? Fuck sake! How bastard difficult is it to just put technology into football? Video ref and clock stoppage is all that's needed to eradicate dick Brain cheating bastards. What the fuck they're on about having 30 minute halfs for I don't know. The actual game isn't the problem. It's some of the fuck wits that play it !!! If the research is correct in that you only get 30 minutes playing time on average at present, then 30 or 35 minutes of "clock" time is all most players' fitness levels would cope with. 30 minutes does seem a bit low - I'd make it 35 minutes per half and see how that went for a trial period. |
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Post by VolvicStokie on Jun 18, 2017 12:22:13 GMT
Where the fuck do these people dream up shit like this? Fuck sake! How bastard difficult is it to just put technology into football? Video ref and clock stoppage is all that's needed to eradicate dick Brain cheating bastards. What the fuck they're on about having 30 minute halfs for I don't know. The actual game isn't the problem. It's some of the fuck wits that play it !!! If the research is correct in that you only get 30 minutes playing time on average at present, then 30 or 35 minutes of "clock" time is all most players' fitness levels would cope with. 30 minutes does seem a bit low - I'd make it 35 minutes per half and see how that went for a trial period. But then you're going to get backlash of fans who will be getting charged more and more whilst getting effectively less time at the match. Regardless of actual playing time. Basically.. they just want to eradicate the cheats and time wasters. Clock stoppage for various aspects.. video ref.. and injuries where they should just do a carbon copy from Rugby ... sorts out the major time wasters and cheating. Period |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 18, 2017 12:23:00 GMT
If they knock it down to 60 minutes, that's me finished! Rugby games are 80 minutes of "clock time" but the games actually last longer than football games in many cases. As I said above, I'd be inclined to trial 35 minutes "clock time" per half and see how it goes and review it after one season. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 13:56:17 GMT
Why don't they scrap football altogether and with all this technology where no-one is allowed to make a mistake and just have Cyber football. Well they already play in slippers with a soft ball on a half artificial surface with no mud or snow in a NO CONTACT sport where grown men fall over and cry like little girls. Not exactly the sport it was is it? Soon the maad arses will ban headers altogether and ban tackling. Oh and no shouting in the crowd it might upset someone. The do gooders won't stop until the sport is gone then they will say it was barbaric and move on to their next target. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Jun 18, 2017 14:57:18 GMT
When you play Man Utd if they haven't scored against you in normal , then time will be added until they do
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2017 17:26:40 GMT
When you play Man Utd if they haven't scored against you in normal , then time will be added until they do They already do this for United, Arsenal , Chelsea and Liverpool and have done for years. |
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jun 18, 2017 17:31:50 GMT
So will the admission prices be reduced by a third? Haha, my thoughts exactly. |
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jun 18, 2017 19:52:50 GMT
Don't do it. It would only be a matter of time before commercial breaks start inserting themselves in the crevices of clock stoppages--it's bad enough having logos on every square inch of wall and shirts (folks that's 2.54 cm squared for you non-US modern gorillas). Most sports here in the States have become unwatchable due to the amount of commercials--literally every chance there's a drop in the action, we're blessed with at least 2 minutes of beer and car ads. Nothing is as bad as the dung heap NFL as far as commercials go, but Hockey is becoming a slow sport recently due to additional ads as well. The "Masters" golf and soccer (that's football - see note above regarding non-metric units) are the only respite from commercials we have over here.
I do like the no-follow up on penalty kicks though.
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Post by tqstokie on Jun 18, 2017 20:02:40 GMT
All this fiddling with the rules and some really daft changes like the offside law and this business of being able to kick to you own goalkeeper at kick off is making the game complicated and unwatchable. Put a stop to this nonsense immediately I say!
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Post by woodstein on Jun 18, 2017 21:00:58 GMT
If they're going to go down the controlled clock way, then why not give us a bit more football and make it 35 minutes each way? I imagine games would last a bit longer than they do now as players would probably stop for longer to rest as they wouldn't be officially wasting game time any more. Also, why tie in the big clock to the referee's watch? Just have an official time keeper and be done with it and let the ref focus on refereeing. You should be able to score off penalty rebounds. Stopping that is a stupid suggestion. Not sure what I think about allowing dribbling straight from a free kick. It would be chaotic at first. Would you have to wait for the whistle or could you take the free kick quickly and essentially run in and carry on? All the ideas are shite but the free kick dribble is a joke. Direct free kicks are one of the most exciting parts of the game, unless you're Joe Hart! |
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Post by StoKeith on Jun 18, 2017 22:06:41 GMT
If they're going to go down the controlled clock way, then why not give us a bit more football and make it 35 minutes each way? I imagine games would last a bit longer than they do now as players would probably stop for longer to rest as they wouldn't be officially wasting game time any more. Also, why tie in the big clock to the referee's watch? Just have an official time keeper and be done with it and let the ref focus on refereeing. You should be able to score off penalty rebounds. Stopping that is a stupid suggestion. Not sure what I think about allowing dribbling straight from a free kick. It would be chaotic at first. Would you have to wait for the whistle or could you take the free kick quickly and essentially run in and carry on? All the ideas are shite but the free kick dribble is a joke. Direct free kicks are one of the most exciting parts of the game, unless you're Joe Hart! They're not saying you have to dribble it. They're creating the option. You can still take a direct free kick if you want to. It would give more scope for creativity with free kicks, so the defenders would have to have their wits about them. |
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Post by woodstein on Jun 19, 2017 5:37:32 GMT
Wits about them for the de-fense (new name for defenders) but twits about them for folk thinking sbout changing a game that doesn't need it.
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Post by 1982stokie on Jun 19, 2017 6:48:23 GMT
Why don't they scrap football altogether and with all this technology where no-one is allowed to make a mistake and just have Cyber football. Well they already play in slippers with a soft ball on a half artificial surface with no mud or snow in a NO CONTACT sport where grown men fall over and cry like little girls.
Not exactly the sport it was is it? Soon the maad arses will ban headers altogether and ban tackling. Oh and no shouting in the crowd it might upset someone. The do gooders won't stop until the sport is gone then they will say it was barbaric and move on to their next target. There can't be many professional sports where it has become exceptable for grown men to roll around pretending they have been smashed in the face, or screaming in fake agony when they get brushed passed, it is fast becoming embarrassing to watch. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 19, 2017 7:40:13 GMT
So will the admission prices be reduced by a third? Haha, my thoughts exactly. The admission prices will be going up, after all there will be a full 60 mins. of nogger.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 11:35:43 GMT
Don't do it. It would only be a matter of time before commercial breaks start inserting themselves in the crevices of clock stoppages--it's bad enough having logos on every square inch of wall and shirts (folks that's 2.54 cm squared for you non-US modern gorillas). Most sports here in the States have become unwatchable due to the amount of commercials--literally every chance there's a drop in the action, we're blessed with at least 2 minutes of beer and car ads. Nothing is as bad as the dung heap NFL as far as commercials go, but Hockey is becoming a slow sport recently due to additional ads as well. The "Masters" golf and soccer (that's football - see note above regarding non-metric units) are the only respite from commercials we have over here. I do like the no-follow up on penalty kicks though. I already record the F1 on Chanel 4 so I can fast forward the adverts and Coulthard. The importance of a secure man cave where a news blackout is strictly enforced is becoming more and more important. Watched Le Mans on Eurosport this weekend and it was wall to wall Disney adverts I was expecting a pace car so we could have a word from our sponsors =) On metric units we must be the only country in the world where petrol is sold in litres but the fuel gauges are marked in gallons, couldn't be they don't want you to work out your mpg could it^ |
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Post by Hannibal on Jun 19, 2017 11:39:55 GMT
Sounds a bit too American for my liking! Here are some other really bad ideas we already have "over here": Unlimited substitutions? Two referees: one for each side of the pitch? No heading under 12 years old? This may actually be a good idea.Mixed teams ("co-ed")? No slide-tackling under 12 years old? Four quarters (for very young kids)? Pulis would be screwed! |
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Post by Kjones9 on Jun 19, 2017 11:43:14 GMT
It's to keep the sky sports/twitter/football manager geration zombies interested so the poor little blighters don't get bored.
They need more Ipad at the match time after all.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jun 19, 2017 11:48:09 GMT
Its nice they have so much time on their hands to come up with this utter bullshit.
Why dont they figure out a way of getting rid of Agents and the stupid salaries.
Also TalkSport was mentioning last week we will soon have 7.45pm kick-offs on a Saturday night. There will soon be no just one 3pm sat kick-off left so that games can be shown on TV all through the weekend.
But who cares about the fans on in the stadiums because they dont contribute as much money to the game right.
The thing is we the supporters are the MUGS because we keep paying our money and showing up
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 19, 2017 13:14:17 GMT
If they can stop the clock when playing 60 mins. Why not just stop the clock when playing the 90 mins?  Because the match would take over 2 hours to complete and the players would have to be a hell of a lot fitter. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 19, 2017 13:15:45 GMT
If the research is correct in that you only get 30 minutes playing time on average at present, then 30 or 35 minutes of "clock" time is all most players' fitness levels would cope with. 30 minutes does seem a bit low - I'd make it 35 minutes per half and see how that went for a trial period. But then you're going to get backlash of fans who will be getting charged more and more whilst getting effectively less time at the match. Regardless of actual playing time. Basically.. they just want to eradicate the cheats and time wasters. Clock stoppage for various aspects.. video ref.. and injuries where they should just do a carbon copy from Rugby ... sorts out the major time wasters and cheating. Period They'd get the same amount of time at the match - approximately 90 mins. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 19, 2017 15:19:29 GMT
To be honest players would just find ways of "in play" time wasting such as passing back to the keeper or holding the ball by the corner flag. I'm sure there are more subtle ways. Exactly. I don't think there's any evidence this would reduce time-wasting at all, and my hunch is it would actually increase it. Winning teams would develop all manner of negative tactics to eat away the final minutes of a game in chunks of 15 seconds at a time. And anyway is time-wasting really such a huge problem in the game at the moment? Surely there are less drastic ways to reduce it than completely changing the format of the entire game. Also who decided that just because 30 minutes happens to be the average time a ball is in play, that that's what we want in every game? Surely there's a fair bit of variation in that from game to game, and even half to half - I bet second half averages are generally lower than first half averages. In short it's a load of old rubbish. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 19, 2017 15:25:35 GMT
Don't do it. It would only be a matter of time before commercial breaks start inserting themselves in the crevices of clock stoppages--it's bad enough having logos on every square inch of wall and shirts (folks that's 2.54 cm squared for you non-US modern gorillas). Most sports here in the States have become unwatchable due to the amount of commercials--literally every chance there's a drop in the action, we're blessed with at least 2 minutes of beer and car ads. Nothing is as bad as the dung heap NFL as far as commercials go, but Hockey is becoming a slow sport recently due to additional ads as well. The "Masters" golf and soccer (that's football - see note above regarding non-metric units) are the only respite from commercials we have over here. I do like the no-follow up on penalty kicks though. It's 6.45cm squared for us non-US modern gorillas actually.  |
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Post by hotterpotter on Jun 19, 2017 15:37:29 GMT
In terms of affecting the game what difference would it actually make apart from stopping the ridiculous slow walking when substituted and making it pointless wasting time when taking throw-ins/goal kicks/pretending to be injured?
If they did implement clock stopping would you even notice it was happening? When watching rugby I don't think I'm constantly thinking "oh this is really different because the clock is not running".
If you're worried about games only being 62 minutes long because of minimal clock stoppages, you could say each half has to last at least 45 minutes including clock stoppages. (Edit: that probably wouldn't work, or would it? I can't even work it out - somebody can I'm sure)
I'm not really for or against but I'm not convinced it would ruin anything. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 19, 2017 16:14:03 GMT
Don't do it. It would only be a matter of time before commercial breaks start inserting themselves in the crevices of clock stoppages--it's bad enough having logos on every square inch of wall and shirts (folks that's 2.54 cm squared for you non-US modern gorillas). Most sports here in the States have become unwatchable due to the amount of commercials--literally every chance there's a drop in the action, we're blessed with at least 2 minutes of beer and car ads. Nothing is as bad as the dung heap NFL as far as commercials go, but Hockey is becoming a slow sport recently due to additional ads as well. The "Masters" golf and soccer (that's football - see note above regarding non-metric units) are the only respite from commercials we have over here. I do like the no-follow up on penalty kicks though. It's 6.45cm squared for us non-US modern gorillas actually. Beat me to it damn! If they did reduce the game to one hour do you recon that admission prices would drop by a third? No I didn't think so  |
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Post by robstokie on Jun 19, 2017 21:43:29 GMT
I think the new proposals are awful. Football has its problems but implementing these proposals will take the game away from those who know and love it and turn it into another soulless consumer product. If these go through, I'm finished.
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Post by takeshikovacs on Jun 19, 2017 21:59:17 GMT
30 minute halves would be great. Fewer 4-0 drubbings!
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Post by FbrgVaStkFan on Jun 20, 2017 1:42:37 GMT
It's 6.45cm squared for us non-US modern gorillas actually. Beat me to it damn! If they did reduce the game to one hour do you recon that admission prices would drop by a third? No I didn't think so Nope, it's 2.54 centimeters/centimetres squared, or another way of stating 6.45 square centimeters/centimetres...assuming y'alls multiplying is correct. But, who's picking nits? |
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