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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 9:18:29 GMT
Might open pen the eyes of a few remainers.....I won’t hold my breath tho
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 18, 2019 10:42:09 GMT
Headlines on the BBC: No deal Brexit could cost UK £30 Billion says fiscal watch dog.
Winner we are £9 Billion up 🤣🤣🤣🤣😋
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Post by starkiller on Jul 18, 2019 11:00:52 GMT
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 18, 2019 11:08:10 GMT
Headlines on the BBC: No deal Brexit could cost UK £30 Billion says fiscal watch dog. Winner we are £9 Billion up 🤣🤣🤣🤣😋 You sure about that fella?
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Post by Northy on Jul 18, 2019 11:19:42 GMT
Headlines on the BBC: No deal Brexit could cost UK £30 Billion says fiscal watch dog. Winner we are £9 Billion up 🤣🤣🤣🤣😋 You sure about that fella? It's the BBC and that word 'could' again - remind you of anything about 3 years ago ?
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 18, 2019 11:26:36 GMT
You sure about that fella? It's the BBC and that word 'could' again - remind you of anything about 3 years ago ? We would have to pay the £39 billion whether we stay or leave.In fact we are paying it now.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 18, 2019 11:45:30 GMT
Might open pen the eyes of a few remainers.....I won’t hold my breath tho He’s a funny little man. Man of colour calls out a man of colour for saying he felt conspicuous in the EU Parliament, but also ridicules him for not conforming to an imaginary dress code. Millennial calls out young remainers for their naivety. Why do the Torys produce so many socially inept young-foggies...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 11:57:09 GMT
Might open pen the eyes of a few remainers.....I won’t hold my breath tho He’s a funny little man. Man of colour calls out a man of colour for saying he felt conspicuous in the EU Parliament, but also ridicules him for not conforming to an imaginary dress code. Millennial calls out young remainers for their naivety. Why do the Torys produce so many socially inept young- He’s saying they likely stopped him entering due to his dress sense as opposed to his colour........surely he’s right bath? and regardless of what you think of the guy who’s doing the video and more importantly...what do you think of the green mep’s thoughts on the Eu?
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 18, 2019 12:05:28 GMT
He’s a funny little man. Man of colour calls out a man of colour for saying he felt conspicuous in the EU Parliament, but also ridicules him for not conforming to an imaginary dress code. Millennial calls out young remainers for their naivety. Why do the Torys produce so many socially inept young- He’s saying they likely stopped him entering due to his dress sense as opposed to his colour........surely he’s right bath? and regardless of what you think of the guy who’s doing the video and more importantly...what do you think of the green mep’s thoughts on the Eu? The EU is not perfect, but little is...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 12:10:50 GMT
He’s saying they likely stopped him entering due to his dress sense as opposed to his colour........surely he’s right bath? and regardless of what you think of the guy who’s doing the video and more importantly...what do you think of the green mep’s thoughts on the Eu? The EU is not perfect, but little is... Is that it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 12:20:22 GMT
I see the usual suspects are at it again - Grieve, Letwin, Benn, Gauke, Clark have hi-jacked the Northern Ireland bill and turned it into an attempt to prevent prorogation of Parliament. Brexit: MPs debate fresh attempt to block autumn no-deal prorogation The vote should take place around 2.00pm. In theory David Gauke, the justice secretary, and Greg Clark, the business secretary, could be sacked for abstaining. If Tory MPs are being whipped to vote against the Benn amendment (as they are), an abstention counts as an act of dissent - although obviously it is not as serious as voting in favour. But, in practice, Number 10 is more likely to turn a blind eye - not least because, in private, Theresa May would probably not consider it the end of the world if MPs did vote for a mechanism to stop Boris Johnson proroguing parliament. Brexit: MPs debate fresh attempt to block autumn no-deal prorogatio link
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 18, 2019 12:46:30 GMT
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 18, 2019 12:51:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 13:00:24 GMT
Can’t wait for the next GE
Bring it on
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 18, 2019 13:11:03 GMT
Headlines on the BBC: No deal Brexit could cost UK £30 Billion says fiscal watch dog. Winner we are £9 Billion up 🤣🤣🤣🤣😋 You sure about that fella? I'm only quoting the OBR on their figures we could save £9 Billion with no deal. To leave with a deal cost £39 Billion OBR say no deal would cost the UK £30 Billion which is a saving by my book 😉
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 18, 2019 13:24:02 GMT
Can’t wait for the next GE Bring it on Lol nor me Nigel for PM 😁
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 18, 2019 13:31:15 GMT
It's the BBC and that word 'could' again - remind you of anything about 3 years ago ? We would have to pay the £39 billion whether we stay or leave.In fact we are paying it now. IF we leave with no deal we do not pay at all. The £39 Billion is the divorce bill for an amicable deal, no deal no money.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 13:34:34 GMT
We would have to pay the £39 billion whether we stay or leave.In fact we are paying it now. IF we leave with no deal we do not pay at all. The £39 Billion is the divorce bill for an amicable deal, no deal no money. But we do lose out on trade with the EU, and all subsequent trade deals the EU has, immediately.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 18, 2019 13:37:09 GMT
IF we leave with no deal we do not pay at all. The £39 Billion is the divorce bill for an amicable deal, no deal no money. But we do lose out on trade with the EU, and all subsequent trade deals the EU has, immediately. And so do they so maybe it suits both to sort shit out sharpish?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 13:39:03 GMT
But we do lose out on trade with the EU, and all subsequent trade deals the EU has, immediately. And so do they so maybe it suits both to sort shit out sharpish? It does indeed, but in the game of chicken that both candidates seem to want to play, we lose out far more in no deal than the EU do. They've already said if we want no deal then fine. Because they know it would cripple us for decades.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 18, 2019 13:50:07 GMT
And so do they so maybe it suits both to sort shit out sharpish? It does indeed, but in the game of chicken that both candidates seem to want to play, we lose out far more in no deal than the EU do. They've already said if we want no deal then fine. Because they know it would cripple us for decades. It's not chicken Germany want a deal desperately and their manufacturing leader are telling Merkel to do a deal. And it's all over the EU manufacturing wants to deal it's only arseholes in the EU and HoC are fudging it to stop it because of the EU fanatics.
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 18, 2019 13:54:51 GMT
And so do they so maybe it suits both to sort shit out sharpish? It does indeed, but in the game of chicken that both candidates seem to want to play, we lose out far more in no deal than the EU do. They've already said if we want no deal then fine. Because they know it would cripple us for decades. We will lose a fuckton more if we aren't out of the EU if / when deutsche bank goes down.
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Post by followyoudown on Jul 18, 2019 14:00:05 GMT
The pm does not have to force through a no deal, parliament already voted overwhelmingingly to leave, all he has to do is not apply for an extension to the WA and we leave, only the PM can do this and parliament can not force him to do it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 14:08:27 GMT
It does indeed, but in the game of chicken that both candidates seem to want to play, we lose out far more in no deal than the EU do. They've already said if we want no deal then fine. Because they know it would cripple us for decades. It's not chicken Germany want a deal desperately and their manufacturing leader are telling Merkel to do a deal. And it's all over the EU manufacturing wants to deal it's only arseholes in the EU and HoC are fudging it to stop it because of the EU fanatics. Well what did anyone expect? Of course they're going to fuck us over, otherwise every other country will leave aswell. We've handled this horrifically, and a no deal is not the magic button people think it is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 14:09:53 GMT
It does indeed, but in the game of chicken that both candidates seem to want to play, we lose out far more in no deal than the EU do. They've already said if we want no deal then fine. Because they know it would cripple us for decades. We will lose a fuckton more if we aren't out of the EU if / when deutsche bank goes down. No we won't. www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36456277
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 18, 2019 14:11:48 GMT
It does indeed, but in the game of chicken that both candidates seem to want to play, we lose out far more in no deal than the EU do. They've already said if we want no deal then fine. Because they know it would cripple us for decades. We will lose a fuckton more if we aren't out of the EU if / when deutsche bank goes down. It's when not if they are bricking it, however I'm sure they will survive with a massive bailout, just hope we don't have to contribute.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 18, 2019 14:15:08 GMT
It's not chicken Germany want a deal desperately and their manufacturing leader are telling Merkel to do a deal. And it's all over the EU manufacturing wants to deal it's only arseholes in the EU and HoC are fudging it to stop it because of the EU fanatics. Well what did anyone expect? Of course they're going to fuck us over, otherwise every other country will leave aswell. We've handled this horrifically, and a no deal is not the magic button people think it is. Taking all the best cards out of the deck before you start is shite, you are spot on we've been crap but it's because of the reluctance to walk away. Business 101 never let them know what you won't do🙄 we want a deal yeah but if we give you a crap one what will you do? Errrm nothing great negotiation tactic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 14:17:20 GMT
Well what did anyone expect? Of course they're going to fuck us over, otherwise every other country will leave aswell. We've handled this horrifically, and a no deal is not the magic button people think it is. Taking all the best cards out of the deck before you start is shite, you are spot on we've been crap but it's because of the reluctance to walk away. Business 101 never let them know what you won't do🙄 we want a deal yeah but if we give you a crap one what will you do? Errrm nothing great negotiation tactic. It isn't business though is it. It's international diplomacy. Why bother using no deal as a ploy when we know neither side can actually afford to do it? Bluffs only work if the other side believe you. And if the EU genuinely thought we were going to demolish our country by leaving with no deal then they'd know we're too stupid to do a deal with anyway.
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Post by franklin66 on Jul 18, 2019 14:23:01 GMT
Taking all the best cards out of the deck before you start is shite, you are spot on we've been crap but it's because of the reluctance to walk away. Business 101 never let them know what you won't do🙄 we want a deal yeah but if we give you a crap one what will you do? Errrm nothing great negotiation tactic. It isn't business though is it. It's international diplomacy. Why bother using no deal as a ploy when we know neither side can actually afford to do it? Bluffs only work if the other side believe you. And if the EU genuinely thought we were going to demolish our country by leaving with no deal then they'd know we're too stupid to do a deal with anyway. You see it is business AND we can afford to walk away and I think we will. All the rest of your post is fear you do not have the first clue what if any damage will result the same as me. Try having faith in our great country instead of wetting it. Anyone would think mad max is just around the corner it's funny.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2019 14:30:07 GMT
It isn't business though is it. It's international diplomacy. Why bother using no deal as a ploy when we know neither side can actually afford to do it? Bluffs only work if the other side believe you. And if the EU genuinely thought we were going to demolish our country by leaving with no deal then they'd know we're too stupid to do a deal with anyway. You see it is business AND we can afford to walk away and I think we will. All the rest of your post is fear you do not have the first clue what if any damage will result the same as me. Try having faith in our great country instead of wetting it. Anyone would think mad max is just around the corner it's funny. It isn't, like I said, it's international diplomacy. And no, we can't. You're right, I'm not certain at all. But the NHS has been stockpiling medicine. We have no plan for what to do with exports and imports for the day we leave. We have no trade routes open when we leave. We have no plan in place for small businesses (although Scotland has). We've lost several large businesses already. We have no Irish border plan. I don't like the EU at all, and I agree with leaving, but the clamour for no deal sounds like it's mostly people just going 'get it over with' rather than actually thinking.
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