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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 23, 2021 19:23:55 GMT
We really are turning into a panicking and scare mongering society. Looking at the above link in detail: The headline says "set to become.....shortages" as if definite fact. Paragraph 1 says: " could be faced......with shortage". Paragraph 2 says: "Suppliers warning .... could be shortage". Paragraph 3 says: "...difficult to harvest......tricky to import". Paragraph 4 says: " but ... growers....insisting.....more than enough"It used to be said " lies, lies, and statistics"; nowadays it is more a case of " lies, lies, and the media".The other way of looking at that, of course, is that certain sections of society are turning (have turned) into persistent deniers of the realities of post-Brexit Britain, and need to downplay those consequences at every opportunity, including blaming the media, in order to shore up their belief that Brexit is going great.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 23, 2021 20:25:50 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2021 20:33:07 GMT
Fortunately rumours of a Mini Kiev shortage have been greatly exaggerated
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 23, 2021 20:33:53 GMT
Oh say can you see, By the dawns early light, That our Brexit trade deal, Isn't even in sight.
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Still, we've got Tim Tams and 13p-a-bottle cheaper Aussie chardonnay.
And the Clandestine Channel Threat Commander is having a cracking summer.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 23, 2021 20:35:31 GMT
'Wattle' happen at Christmas?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 23, 2021 20:40:30 GMT
'Wattle' happen at Christmas? Buddum tish🥁
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 23, 2021 20:47:32 GMT
Let's face it, if you still think Brexit is a good idea, all of the shit that has happened as a result (NI tensions, farming and fishing sold down the river, food and labour shortages, lowering of environmental protection standards etc etc) are just minor irritations that don't really matter and should be downplayed at every opportunity, especially if they've only affected other people/businesses. In which case, Brexit is going great... Conversely, anyone who still thinks Brexit is a shit idea has got plenty of evidence so far to persist in that view, as very very little, if anything, has changed noticeably for the better. That £350mill a week we were supposed to be seeing the benefit of certainly didn't stretch very far... You're simply not believing in Britain enough. If you're worried about the happy empty British shelves or the new sovereign energy prices I'd recommend switching to Union Jack underwear and a rousing rendition of Strong Britain, Great Nation to start the day. If you have space above the mantelpiece, a portrait of the Supreme Leader as a good luck charm will also help.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 23, 2021 20:55:13 GMT
Let's face it, if you still think Brexit is a good idea, all of the shit that has happened as a result (NI tensions, farming and fishing sold down the river, food and labour shortages, lowering of environmental protection standards etc etc) are just minor irritations that don't really matter and should be downplayed at every opportunity, especially if they've only affected other people/businesses. In which case, Brexit is going great... Conversely, anyone who still thinks Brexit is a shit idea has got plenty of evidence so far to persist in that view, as very very little, if anything, has changed noticeably for the better. That £350mill a week we were supposed to be seeing the benefit of certainly didn't stretch very far... You're simply not believing in Britain enough. If you're worried about the happy empty British shelves or the new sovereign energy prices I'd recommend switching to Union Jack underwear and a rousing rendition of Strong Britain, Great Nation to start the day. If you have space above the mantelpiece, a portrait of the Supreme Leader as a good luck charm will also help. Not sure a picture of Nicola Sturgeon over the mantelpiece is going to help much. But you never know.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 23, 2021 21:27:41 GMT
You're simply not believing in Britain enough. If you're worried about the happy empty British shelves or the new sovereign energy prices I'd recommend switching to Union Jack underwear and a rousing rendition of Strong Britain, Great Nation to start the day. If you have space above the mantelpiece, a portrait of the Supreme Leader as a good luck charm will also help. Not sure a picture of Nicola Sturgeon over the mantelpiece is going to help much. But you never know. It's Scottish headbangers I feel most sorry for. Not only do they have to line up behind the Supreme Leader in Westminster, they then have to fall in line to an ex-ref. Still, hopefully between Sarwar and Ross they can do enough to keep the racehorse in the stable.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 23, 2021 21:36:15 GMT
Not sure a picture of Nicola Sturgeon over the mantelpiece is going to help much. But you never know. It's Scottish headbangers I feel most sorry for. Not only do they have to line up behind the Supreme Leader in Westminster, they then have to fall in line to an ex-ref. Still, hopefully between Sarwar and Ross they can do enough to keep the racehorse in the stable. Don’t worry about us here. As the old expression goes… there’s always the hills. And we’ve got hunners of those. Literally. And if climbing hills don’t float your boat, well, there’s popping pills. Which is now cushty… Class A drug possession effectively decriminalised in Scotland
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Sept 23, 2021 21:41:34 GMT
It's Scottish headbangers I feel most sorry for. Not only do they have to line up behind the Supreme Leader in Westminster, they then have to fall in line to an ex-ref. Still, hopefully between Sarwar and Ross they can do enough to keep the racehorse in the stable. Don’t worry about us here. As the old expression goes… there’s always the hills. And we’ve got hunners of those. Literally. And if climbing hills don’t float your boat, well, there’s popping pills. Which is now cushty… Class A drug possession effectively decriminalised in ScotlandAnother to add to the list of 'Stoke cures' after a dismal display though, surely? You are blessed with serene beauty, incredible wilderness and the ability to deep-fry anything.
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Post by essexstokey on Sept 24, 2021 1:41:14 GMT
Hope the Brexit supporters on here take full responsibility for the lack of petrol and food because we dont have those nasty foreign lory drivers and workers that made our economy tick
Well done to you all for the shambles you have brought upon us
My guess is they will find some excuses as to why inflation is at 3 percent and likely to climb and why shops have empty shelves and our petrol stations are running dry
Something we warned about but you ignored But we have a blue passport back made by the French so alls fine isn't it
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Post by thevoid on Sept 24, 2021 5:36:20 GMT
Hope the Brexit supporters on here take full responsibility for the lack of petrol and food because we dont have those nasty foreign lory drivers and workers that made our economy tick Well done to you all for the shambles you have brought upon us My guess is they will find some excuses as to why inflation is at 3 percent and likely to climb and why shops have empty shelves and our petrol stations are running dry Something we warned about but you ignored But we have a blue passport back made by the French so alls fine isn't it As long as Labour voters take responsibility for the illegal war we were taken into by Blair that we're still having repercussions from? And I wouldn't worry about passports, you can't afford one 😆
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Post by thevoid on Sept 24, 2021 5:38:59 GMT
Don't like turkey. Far too dry.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 24, 2021 5:42:39 GMT
Don't like turkey. Far too dry. I’m more of a gammon man myself😉
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 24, 2021 5:55:54 GMT
Wonder what beautiful benefits Brexit will bring us today?
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 24, 2021 6:13:05 GMT
Wonder what beautiful benefits Brexit will bring us today? Just going out to hobble around with the dog Blue sky and sunshine by the looks of it
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 24, 2021 6:17:00 GMT
Hope the Brexit supporters on here take full responsibility for the lack of petrol and food because we dont have those nasty foreign lory drivers and workers that made our economy tick Well done to you all for the shambles you have brought upon us My guess is they will find some excuses as to why inflation is at 3 percent and likely to climb and why shops have empty shelves and our petrol stations are running dry Something we warned about but you ignored But we have a blue passport back made by the French so alls fine isn't it It's ok, cars run on sovereignty these days... I see the govt is planning to provide visas for foreign lorry drivers and extend the visas for seasonal workers as Christmas food/supply shortages intensify...It's almost as if immigrants weren't the problem that was portrayed so vividly and repeatedly five years ago, who'd've thought it!
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 24, 2021 7:44:40 GMT
Don't like turkey. Far too dry. Try brining it first....fabulous
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 24, 2021 7:57:58 GMT
I almost shed a tear for the bastard who has for years been allowed to get away treating the workforce like shit through using such thing as agencies
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Post by 3putts on Sept 24, 2021 8:01:39 GMT
Hope the Brexit supporters on here take full responsibility for the lack of petrol and food because we dont have those nasty foreign lory drivers and workers that made our economy tick Well done to you all for the shambles you have brought upon us My guess is they will find some excuses as to why inflation is at 3 percent and likely to climb and why shops have empty shelves and our petrol stations are running dry Something we warned about but you ignored But we have a blue passport back made by the French so alls fine isn't it As long as Labour voters take responsibility for the illegal war we were taken into by Blair that we're still having repercussions from? And I wouldn't worry about passports, you can't afford one 😆 So you believe the labour government should have ignored the attacks on the twin towers or the London bombings? Don't recall too many tories at the time opposing the war on terror, guess its good to have hindsight eh?
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 24, 2021 8:22:30 GMT
As long as Labour voters take responsibility for the illegal war we were taken into by Blair that we're still having repercussions from? And I wouldn't worry about passports, you can't afford one 😆 So you believe the labour government should have ignored the attacks on the twin towers or the London bombings? Don't recall too many tories at the time opposing the war on terror, guess its good to have hindsight eh? Higher % of Tories and Lim Dem MPs voted for it than Labour's MPs
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 24, 2021 8:50:35 GMT
I almost shed a tear for the bastard who has for years been allowed to get away treating the workforce like shit through using such thing as agencies Totally agree mate, properly unionised and properly paid workforces are required.
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Post by mrcoke on Sept 24, 2021 8:56:50 GMT
Thank you Huddy, but we can all search the internet to find a story that suits our agenda. If you google Paul Kelly turkey farmer you will find masses of stuff. A man who has built up a huge business exploiting low paid workers and possibly made a fortune with his brand Kellybronze. Kelly has also been peddling the story about Christmas shortage due to a CO2 shortage, due to an energy shortage that is a European wide issue as industry surges out of the pandemic and there has to be maintenance of gas plants postponed during the pandemic. uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/turkeys-wont-christmas-menu-co2-161259362.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANEZQAgSqPu-P3Ad8tVZOWY7g-9pnDq0Fme8YeKHnxGLKVLHPIoEgeu4xvz2US_Pb2QKlT8ABW3qqvUk10VznfjRv0avXX5V7cbyqiHsUeY44wXGN6OQ62QEJ-poOqRYtD-RCAbTowVEypg8zHbPsYzPg5A4879Gui3BKCdqA5EII suggest Mr Kelly is on a mission to sell turkeys, but I draw you attention to this link about this particular turkey farmer. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/turkey-farm-kelly-turkeys-animal-cruelty-christmas-dinner-essex-greenbury-poultry-danbury-rights-welfare-viva-undercover-a7486381.htmlIf he treats his employees the same as he treats turkeys, it isn't surprising no one wants to work for him, would you ? Ask yourself if you would. Can someone on this message board please post how they have personally suffered because of Brexit? I would be interested to know. I must live in a bubble; the only thing I can think that has affected me is that there isn't all those guys washing cars that I used to used, they seem to have all disappeared. I did a huge shop at Tesco on Monday, the shelves were full and nothing was in short supply. I didn't try and buy turkey though, but there were loads of chickens of all sizes corn fed, organic, etc., etc. If we have problems they are due to lorry drivers shortage, discussed on another non Brexit thread, and shortage of labour because the economy is booming and employment is back to pre-pandemic record levels. I have no objection to the government allowing people in if they are going to full fill a need. www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-payrolled-employment-rises-by-record-241000-august-2021-09-14/I suspect some remainers would prefer to hear about unemployment they predicted if we left the EU.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 24, 2021 9:02:55 GMT
I almost shed a tear for the bastard who has for years been allowed to get away treating the workforce like shit through using such thing as agencies Totally agree mate, properly unionised and properly paid workforces are required. Totally agree
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Post by thevoid on Sept 24, 2021 9:18:34 GMT
As long as Labour voters take responsibility for the illegal war we were taken into by Blair that we're still having repercussions from? And I wouldn't worry about passports, you can't afford one 😆 So you believe the labour government should have ignored the attacks on the twin towers or the London bombings? Don't recall too many tories at the time opposing the war on terror, guess its good to have hindsight eh? The London bombings that took place afterwards you mean? As I said, repercussions....That's the usual left wing 'go to' excuse for these events is it not- foreign policy?
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Post by thevoid on Sept 24, 2021 9:22:02 GMT
Thank you Huddy, but we can all search the internet to find a story that suits our agenda. If you google Paul Kelly turkey farmer you will find masses of stuff. A man who has built up a huge business exploiting low paid workers and possibly made a fortune with his brand Kellybronze. Kelly has also been peddling the story about Christmas shortage due to a CO2 shortage, due to an energy shortage that is a European wide issue as industry surges out of the pandemic and there has to be maintenance of gas plants postponed during the pandemic. uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/turkeys-wont-christmas-menu-co2-161259362.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANEZQAgSqPu-P3Ad8tVZOWY7g-9pnDq0Fme8YeKHnxGLKVLHPIoEgeu4xvz2US_Pb2QKlT8ABW3qqvUk10VznfjRv0avXX5V7cbyqiHsUeY44wXGN6OQ62QEJ-poOqRYtD-RCAbTowVEypg8zHbPsYzPg5A4879Gui3BKCdqA5EII suggest Mr Kelly is on a mission to sell turkeys, but I draw you attention to this link about this particular turkey farmer. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/turkey-farm-kelly-turkeys-animal-cruelty-christmas-dinner-essex-greenbury-poultry-danbury-rights-welfare-viva-undercover-a7486381.htmlIf he treats his employees the same as he treats turkeys, it isn't surprising no one wants to work for him, would you ? Ask yourself if you would. Can someone on this message board please post how they have personally suffered because of Brexit? I would be interested to know. I must live in a bubble; the only thing I can think that has affected me is that there isn't all those guys washing cars that I used to used, they seem to have all disappeared. I did a huge shop at Tesco on Monday, the shelves were full and nothing was in short supply. I didn't try and buy turkey though, but there were loads of chickens of all sizes corn fed, organic, etc., etc. If we have problems they are due to lorry drivers shortage, discussed on another non Brexit thread, and shortage of labour because the economy is booming and employment is back to pre-pandemic record levels. I have no objection to the government allowing people in if they are going to full fill a need. www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-payrolled-employment-rises-by-record-241000-august-2021-09-14/I suspect some remainers would prefer to hear about unemployment they predicted if we left the EU. You'd think a reporter worth their salt would be able to spell Kelly correctly too- or at least employ a spell checker....
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 24, 2021 9:44:08 GMT
Thank you Huddy, but we can all search the internet to find a story that suits our agenda. If you google Paul Kelly turkey farmer you will find masses of stuff. A man who has built up a huge business exploiting low paid workers and possibly made a fortune with his brand Kellybronze. Kelly has also been peddling the story about Christmas shortage due to a CO2 shortage, due to an energy shortage that is a European wide issue as industry surges out of the pandemic and there has to be maintenance of gas plants postponed during the pandemic. uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/turkeys-wont-christmas-menu-co2-161259362.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYmluZy5jb20v&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANEZQAgSqPu-P3Ad8tVZOWY7g-9pnDq0Fme8YeKHnxGLKVLHPIoEgeu4xvz2US_Pb2QKlT8ABW3qqvUk10VznfjRv0avXX5V7cbyqiHsUeY44wXGN6OQ62QEJ-poOqRYtD-RCAbTowVEypg8zHbPsYzPg5A4879Gui3BKCdqA5EII suggest Mr Kelly is on a mission to sell turkeys, but I draw you attention to this link about this particular turkey farmer. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/turkey-farm-kelly-turkeys-animal-cruelty-christmas-dinner-essex-greenbury-poultry-danbury-rights-welfare-viva-undercover-a7486381.htmlIf he treats his employees the same as he treats turkeys, it isn't surprising no one wants to work for him, would you ? Ask yourself if you would. Can someone on this message board please post how they have personally suffered because of Brexit? I would be interested to know. I must live in a bubble; the only thing I can think that has affected me is that there isn't all those guys washing cars that I used to used, they seem to have all disappeared. I did a huge shop at Tesco on Monday, the shelves were full and nothing was in short supply. I didn't try and buy turkey though, but there were loads of chickens of all sizes corn fed, organic, etc., etc. If we have problems they are due to lorry drivers shortage, discussed on another non Brexit thread, and shortage of labour because the economy is booming and employment is back to pre-pandemic record levels. I have no objection to the government allowing people in if they are going to full fill a need. www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-payrolled-employment-rises-by-record-241000-august-2021-09-14/I suspect some remainers would prefer to hear about unemployment they predicted if we left the EU. You'd think a reporter worth their salt would be able to spell Kelly correctly too- or at least employ a spell checker.... Does the byline times actually use journalist Or are they just raving left wing loons using there spare bedrooms
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 24, 2021 10:07:33 GMT
You'd think a reporter worth their salt would be able to spell Kelly correctly too- or at least employ a spell checker.... Does the byline times actually use journalist Or are they just raving left wing loons using there spare bedrooms It's a crank operation and I say that as someone who purchased its founders book Beyond Contempt about phone hacking, its funded by subscribers like huddy who pay for their sub-standard six degrees of kevin bacon journalism that mainly just links something bad with someone who might know someone who is a Tory type bollocks. But as long as they throw in the Trump / Tommy you wont hear this on MSM stuff they all lap it up.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Sept 24, 2021 10:33:01 GMT
Does the byline times actually use journalist Or are they just raving left wing loons using there spare bedrooms It's a crank operation and I say that as someone who purchased its founders book Beyond Contempt about phone hacking, its funded by subscribers like huddy who pay for their sub-standard six degrees of kevin bacon journalism that mainly just links something bad with someone who might know someone who is a Tory type bollocks. But as long as they throw in the Trump / Tommy you wont hear this on MSM stuff they all lap it up. I'm not a subscriber and they are far more accurate than your paymasters at CCHQ or Guido.
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