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Post by foster on Nov 23, 2020 10:16:25 GMT
Would you rather a) snog Boris, b) let Gove finger your arse, c) give cummings a handjob or d) give Patel a rimjob?
Option (d) for me.
Get Brexit done!
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Post by dutchstokie on Nov 23, 2020 10:45:25 GMT
Would you rather a) snog Boris, b) let Gove finger your arse, c) give cummings a handjob or d) give Patel a rimjob? Option (d) for me. Get Brexit done!
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 23, 2020 12:40:29 GMT
Has anyone who claims on here to simply increase trade with countries on the other side of the planet actually stopped to consider the environmental implications? It's all good and well saying we'll get our oranges or whatever from the other side of the world, but personally I want food to be produced locally, or come from neighbouring countries. The idea that people are supporting sending more planes up into the air and further increasing pollution when most of the produce is on our doorstep, doesn't sit well with me. I’d prefer as much as possible to be grown and manufactured in this country Was reading a article about sewerage treatment plants and the hot water created could heat sufficient glass houses to stop us having to import tomatoes this sort of thing is the way forward Good news for you today: www.theguardian.com/business/2020/nov/23/covid-and-brexit-could-see-uk-manufacturers-bringing-it-all-back-home
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 23, 2020 12:45:23 GMT
It’s good news for everyone More employment Lower Lead time Better for the environment
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 13:05:31 GMT
Would you rather a) snog Boris, b) let Gove finger your arse, c) give cummings a handjob or d) give Patel a rimjob? Option (d) for me. Get Brexit done! Do I get to put my nose up her fanny?
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Post by foster on Nov 23, 2020 15:14:24 GMT
Would you rather a) snog Boris, b) let Gove finger your arse, c) give cummings a handjob or d) give Patel a rimjob? Option (d) for me. Get Brexit done! Do I get to put my nose up her fanny? Of course. I doubt she'd give you the choice tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2020 16:09:04 GMT
Do I get to put my nose up her fanny? Of course. I doubt she'd give you the choice tbh. An extraordinary rendition... Of my best opera singing. Muffled, of course
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Post by prestwichpotter on Nov 23, 2020 18:52:12 GMT
Any truth in the Nissan story doing the rounds from German media?
Haven’t read up enough to know if it’s “fake news” or not?
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 23, 2020 19:02:08 GMT
Any truth in the Nissan story doing the rounds from German media? Haven’t read up enough to know if it’s “fake news” or not? So complete hyper bollocks Nissan may shut its Sunderland plant if we have a no deal and tariffs are to high
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 23, 2020 19:11:12 GMT
Any truth in the Nissan story doing the rounds from German media? Haven’t read up enough to know if it’s “fake news” or not? So complete hyper bollocks Nissan may shut its Sunderland plant if we have a no deal and tariffs are to high If it was just tariffs the UK could compensate, more important is the japan-eu free trade deal now means that cars can be imported direct from parent company so they condolidate and save costs on production. They already closed a spanish plant last year.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 23, 2020 19:26:13 GMT
So complete hyper bollocks Nissan may shut its Sunderland plant if we have a no deal and tariffs are to high If it was just tariffs the UK could compensate, more important is the japan-eu free trade deal now means that cars can be imported direct from parent company so they condolidate and save costs on production. They already closed a spanish plant last year. I think a lot of car plants days are numbered due to the switch to electricity But on the bright side I saw a bit on the BBC news about Cornwall having a lithium deposit one of only two commercial amounts in Europe the other Slovakia And the fact they tend to build battery and car plants near lithium deposits as this mitigates the risk of transporting dangerous chemicals to far So we may well see old car plants closing and new ones opening in different areas Though sadly that is no consolation for those that lose their jobs
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 23, 2020 19:51:00 GMT
So complete hyper bollocks Nissan may shut its Sunderland plant if we have a no deal and tariffs are to high If it was just tariffs the UK could compensate, more important is the japan-eu free trade deal now means that cars can be imported direct from parent company so they condolidate and save costs on production. They already closed a spanish plant last year. That is correct. Last year Honda announced the closure of the Swindon plant next year for that reason. The move to electric cars requires massive investment and the Japanese quite rightly intend to do that in Japan, now they have a trade deal with the EU. Nothing to do with Brexit. www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47287386There is one other issue that goes through my mind. Nissan have constantly threatened to close the Sunderland plant to put pressure on the UK government, local authority, and the workers to squeeze more performance out of the plant which has historically been one of the most efficient in the world. The German press may be misinterpreting a Nissan comment, and if the German press article is true it represents a complete turnaround on the Nissan announcement last March to invest £400m in the plant. www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/03/06/nissan-safeguards-sunderland-plant-400m-boost/www.theguardian.com/business/2020/may/28/nissan-sunderland-factory-safe-but-plant-in-barcelona-will-close-coronaviruswww.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/nissan-announces-major-cuts-sunderland-plant-safeI have visited the Nissan Sunderland plant twice and had the full tour and been on the test bed. (not what your thinking!) The plant has been one of the most efficient in the world for decades. The car manufacturing industry have a league table of efficiency and if my memory serves me right the Sunderland plant is always one of the top 10 in the world and there are only 2 plants in the top 10 outside of Japan and South Korea. uk.nissannews.com/en-GB/releases/release-11576-what-makes-nissan-s-sunderland-car-plant-europe-s-most-efficientI have been round the Tata Jaguar plant as well, which is very impressive, but a long way behind Nissan in efficiency. Because of the UK's high wages and other costs, a UK car manufacturer has to be super efficient to survive in a world wide cut throat market. Particularly as the British public are far less loyal to their own car producers (I plead guilty as well) than the Germans, French, and Italians.
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Post by Kilo on Nov 23, 2020 19:54:34 GMT
If it was just tariffs the UK could compensate, more important is the japan-eu free trade deal now means that cars can be imported direct from parent company so they condolidate and save costs on production. They already closed a spanish plant last year. I think a lot of car plants days are numbered due to the switch to electricity But on the bright side I saw a bit on the BBC news about Cornwall having a lithium deposit one of only two commercial amounts in Europe the other Slovakia And the fact they tend to build battery and car plants near lithium deposits as this mitigates the risk of transporting dangerous chemicals to far So we may well see old car plants closing and new ones opening in different areas Though sadly that is no consolation for those that lose their jobs It almost makes me wish I was in the car industry. If my employer asked me to relocate from Sunderland to Cornwall I'd be looking in the dictionary to find out what's smaller than a nanosecond.
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Post by mrcoke on Nov 23, 2020 20:31:56 GMT
If it was just tariffs the UK could compensate, more important is the japan-eu free trade deal now means that cars can be imported direct from parent company so they condolidate and save costs on production. They already closed a spanish plant last year. I think a lot of car plants days are numbered due to the switch to electricity But on the bright side I saw a bit on the BBC news about Cornwall having a lithium deposit one of only two commercial amounts in Europe the other Slovakia And the fact they tend to build battery and car plants near lithium deposits as this mitigates the risk of transporting dangerous chemicals to far So we may well see old car plants closing and new ones opening in different areas Though sadly that is no consolation for those that lose their jobs Just as an interesting aside, one of the most expensive things to transport in the motor industry is tyres. That is because they are relatively light but very bulky. A lorry load of tyres is limited by "cubic capacity" or volume rather than the usual factor "weight". So in effect you are transporting a lot of air when you move tyres about.
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Post by AlliG on Nov 23, 2020 20:32:05 GMT
I think a lot of car plants days are numbered due to the switch to electricity But on the bright side I saw a bit on the BBC news about Cornwall having a lithium deposit one of only two commercial amounts in Europe the other Slovakia And the fact they tend to build battery and car plants near lithium deposits as this mitigates the risk of transporting dangerous chemicals to far So we may well see old car plants closing and new ones opening in different areas Though sadly that is no consolation for those that lose their jobs It almost makes me wish I was in the car industry. If my employer asked me to relocate from Sunderland to Cornwall I'd be looking in the dictionary to find out what's smaller than a nanosecond. A picosecond. I knew all the education 40 years ago would come in useful one day.
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Post by Kilo on Nov 23, 2020 22:31:22 GMT
It almost makes me wish I was in the car industry. If my employer asked me to relocate from Sunderland to Cornwall I'd be looking in the dictionary to find out what's smaller than a nanosecond. A picosecond. I knew all the education 40 years ago would come in useful one day. I knew that, I should really have used a smiley face as I was just taking the piss out of Sunderland I could have used Zepto but that would have been lost on some.
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 24, 2020 9:03:51 GMT
A picosecond. I knew all the education 40 years ago would come in useful one day. I knew that, I should really have used a smiley face as I was just taking the piss out of Sunderland I could have used Zepto but that would have been lost on some.
Better still a yocto.
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Post by followyoudown on Nov 24, 2020 12:49:18 GMT
Seems it was bollocks anyway
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 25, 2020 19:31:17 GMT
Seems it was bollocks anyway Are you sure it’s not like remainers to invent scare stories
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 28, 2020 6:53:12 GMT
Starmer certainly has had his Damascene conversion... Starmer prepares to reopen old Labour wounds over Brexit deal voteHe is going to whip his MPs to support Boris’s Brexit deal says the Guardian as “a signal to red wall voters that the party has heard them”. Out with the old (2nd referendum as well as JC) and in with the new (Brexit loving, serious on anti-semitism). He seems to have fully grasped Blair’s notion that power trumps principle.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 28, 2020 7:40:07 GMT
Starmer certainly has had his Damascene conversion... Starmer prepares to reopen old Labour wounds over Brexit deal voteHe is going to whip his MPs to support Boris’s Brexit deal says the Guardian as “a signal to red wall voters that the party has heard them”. Out with the old (2nd referendum as well as JC) and in with the new (Brexit loving, serious on anti-semitism). He seems to have fully grasped Blair’s notion that power trumps principle. Well if only he had come to that conclusion a year and a half ago he might of been the one doing the deal And the country could of had a labour government
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 28, 2020 8:20:14 GMT
Starmer certainly has had his Damascene conversion... Starmer prepares to reopen old Labour wounds over Brexit deal voteHe is going to whip his MPs to support Boris’s Brexit deal says the Guardian as “a signal to red wall voters that the party has heard them”. Out with the old (2nd referendum as well as JC) and in with the new (Brexit loving, serious on anti-semitism). He seems to have fully grasped Blair’s notion that power trumps principle. Well if only he had come to that conclusion a year and a half ago he might of been the one doing the deal And the country could of had a labour government He reminds me of a cricket captain who places his field based on the last shot the batsmen made. Edge - put in a slip. 4 - take the slip out.
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 28, 2020 9:26:34 GMT
Well if only he had come to that conclusion a year and a half ago he might of been the one doing the deal And the country could of had a labour government He reminds me of a cricket captain who places his field based on the last shot the batsmen made. Edge - put in a slip. 4 - take the slip out. The guy is a unprincipled opportunistic charlatan And I agree with momo there’s something slightly sinister about him
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 28, 2020 20:05:04 GMT
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Post by ravey123 on Nov 28, 2020 21:09:48 GMT
So this will be an agreement to allow the French to fish in BRITISH waters in agreement for the french to try a bit harder to stop migrants from crossing the channel from FRANCE I know it doesn't say that but we all know this is what it really is - yet again we cave in. Basically it will end up with the French fishermen taking our fish and doing bugger all else to prevent the migrants. SELL OUT
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 29, 2020 4:52:49 GMT
So this will be an agreement to allow the French to fish in BRITISH waters in agreement for the french to try a bit harder to stop migrants from crossing the channel from FRANCE I know it doesn't say that but we all know this is what it really is - yet again we cave in. Basically it will end up with the French fishermen taking our fish and doing bugger all else to prevent the migrants. SELL OUT Possibly. But I’d wait until it happens before getting wound up about it.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Nov 29, 2020 8:13:20 GMT
So Iain Duncan Smith reckons the govt will be in "grave peril" if it doesn't deliver on "sovereignty" ie fish!
Rubbish, most folk don't give a shit about Brexit any more, even less about fishing, they just want it all over so they never have to hear about it again.
Unless, of course, IDS refers to the grave peril to the govt coming from the Tory Party itself, which further underscores the source of the whole farce itself - an internal Tory Party spat which is about to wipe 4% off the economy (govt figures, best outcome), and will probably fracture 300 years of the United Kingdom.
Still, they're always there doing what's best for the ordinary man and woman throughout the country, the Tories!
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Post by Timmypotter on Nov 29, 2020 8:58:16 GMT
Starmer certainly has had his Damascene conversion... Starmer prepares to reopen old Labour wounds over Brexit deal voteHe is going to whip his MPs to support Boris’s Brexit deal says the Guardian as “a signal to red wall voters that the party has heard them”. Out with the old (2nd referendum as well as JC) and in with the new (Brexit loving, serious on anti-semitism). He seems to have fully grasped Blair’s notion that power trumps principle. Well if only he had come to that conclusion a year and a half ago he might of been the one doing the deal And the country could of had a labour government This is the most frustrating thing about Labour and Brexit. Why have Labour, and the left in general, forgotten their previous qualms about the EU? Why have they struggled to see that their natural position should have been to oppose what the EU represents? I guess the real reason is that they're no more a party of labour than the tories are. They're tories lite with some identity politics (which pretty much seems to be what left wing means these days).
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Post by partickpotter on Nov 30, 2020 7:19:01 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Nov 30, 2020 7:20:16 GMT
New farming subsidies bill now starting to go through Parliament Slowly fazing out subsidies based on the Eu model based on the amount of land owned And bringing back to diversity and environmental reasons
Another fine example of brexit removing money from the undeserving and directed to the benefit of the majority
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