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Post by longdistancekiddie on Sept 16, 2020 22:02:10 GMT
The older generation were scared /blackmailed into voting to stay, it will be independence next time can't see them wanting to stay connected to the corrupt tories. For sure the rest of Europe would have helped the Scots Scottish independence is dead in the water Untill at least 2024/25 And wee Jimmy krankie can scream and scream and scream untill she's sick for how much good it will do her Of course are beloved leader Boris could play a blinder and tell her she can have her vote two months after Shetland and the orkneys have there's Good luck on wee Jimmy convincing the Scottish people to vote for a separate curency a potential hard boarder And no oil as Shetland will have buggerd off with it They had there once in a lifetime chance and blew it Three years will fly. Buffer will be long gone
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Sept 16, 2020 22:04:43 GMT
The older generation were scared /blackmailed into voting to stay, it will be independence next time can't see them wanting to stay connected to the corrupt tories. For sure the rest of Europe would have helped the Scots Scottish independence is dead in the water Untill at least 2024/25 And wee Jimmy krankie can scream and scream and scream untill she's sick for how much good it will do her Of course are beloved leader Boris could play a blinder and tell her she can have her vote two months after Shetland and the orkneys have there's Good luck on wee Jimmy convincing the Scottish people to vote for a separate curency a potential hard boarder And no oil as Shetland will have buggerd off with it They had there once in a lifetime chance and blew it Three years will fly. Buffer will be long gone, plenty of oil and gas left. They will be selling energy to their neighbour. They will be copying Norway
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 17, 2020 6:22:25 GMT
Although, presidents negotiate trade deals Congress votes on them! Looks like Boris has upset the Irish American constituency? And now Biden has chipped in. Unsurprisingly. That “breaking international law” comment is about the dumbest political statement I can recall for many a long year.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Sept 17, 2020 7:13:04 GMT
Scottish independence is dead in the water Untill at least 2024/25 And wee Jimmy krankie can scream and scream and scream untill she's sick for how much good it will do her Of course are beloved leader Boris could play a blinder and tell her she can have her vote two months after Shetland and the orkneys have there's Good luck on wee Jimmy convincing the Scottish people to vote for a separate curency a potential hard boarder And no oil as Shetland will have buggerd off with it They had there once in a lifetime chance and blew it Three years will fly. Buffer will be long gone, plenty of oil and gas left. They will be selling energy to their neighbour. They will be copying Norway Dangerous water to tread if Jimmy Krankie thinks the North Sea gas and oil belongs to Scotland because, although administered in Aberdeen on behalf of the U.K., the majority of the oil fields will lie in English Economic Sea Space. Here’s why....the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea defines how 200 mile Economic Sea Space (ESS) is divided in disputed areas. It states that a line of the boarder between 2 countries must be extrapolated into the disputed ESS and that boarder will constitute the division between the 2 countries ESS. In the case of English/Scottish ESS the line between Carlisle and Berwick will be extrapolated in a NE direction to the limit of the sea space. This puts the majority of the oil and gas fields in English ESS. Wee krankie decided to use the line of latitude from Berwick into the North Sea and claim Scottish ESS to the North thus claimiming the majority of the oil fields. I’m hoping the U.K. government are keeping their powders dry on this one and fire it during any IndyRef2 in the future.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 17, 2020 7:19:38 GMT
Three years will fly. Buffer will be long gone, plenty of oil and gas left. They will be selling energy to their neighbour. They will be copying Norway Dangerous water to tread if Jimmy Krankie thinks the North Sea gas and oil belongs to Scotland because, although administered in Aberdeen on behalf of the U.K., the majority of the oil fields will lie in English Economic Sea Space. Here’s why....the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea defines how 200 mile Economic Sea Space (ESS) is divided in disputed areas. It states that a line of the boarder between 2 countries must be extrapolated into the disputed ESS and that boarder will constitute the division between the 2 countries ESS. In the case of English/Scottish ESS the line between Carlisle and Berwick will be extrapolated in a NE direction to the limit of the sea space. This puts the majority of the oil and gas fields in English ESS. Wee krankie decided to use the line of latitude from Berwick into the North Sea and claim Scottish ESS to the North thus claimiming the majority of the oil fields. I’m hoping the U.K. government are keeping their powders dry on this one and fire it during any IndyRef2 in the future. So basically most of the oil and gas will belong to England and the Crown dependency of the Shetland island
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 17, 2020 7:32:12 GMT
Dangerous water to tread if Jimmy Krankie thinks the North Sea gas and oil belongs to Scotland because, although administered in Aberdeen on behalf of the U.K., the majority of the oil fields will lie in English Economic Sea Space. Here’s why....the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea defines how 200 mile Economic Sea Space (ESS) is divided in disputed areas. It states that a line of the boarder between 2 countries must be extrapolated into the disputed ESS and that boarder will constitute the division between the 2 countries ESS. In the case of English/Scottish ESS the line between Carlisle and Berwick will be extrapolated in a NE direction to the limit of the sea space. This puts the majority of the oil and gas fields in English ESS. Wee krankie decided to use the line of latitude from Berwick into the North Sea and claim Scottish ESS to the North thus claimiming the majority of the oil fields. I’m hoping the U.K. government are keeping their powders dry on this one and fire it during any IndyRef2 in the future. So basically most of the oil and gas will belong to England and the Crown dependency of the Shetland island Oil has now passed peak usage, according to BP. From what I read, this means two things 1) huge amounts of conventional and unconventional fossil fuel will remain where they are and 2) a price war will see oil prices at around $40-50. So, less oil at a lower price. You may recall the SNP estimated a price of $110 in 2014 in their (in)famous Independence white paper. This means tough times ahead for oil based economies. It’s not a commodity you’d be planning on going forward.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 17, 2020 7:46:03 GMT
So basically most of the oil and gas will belong to England and the Crown dependency of the Shetland island Oil has now passed peak usage, according to BP. From what I read, this means two things 1) huge amounts of conventional and unconventional fossil fuel will remain where they are and 2) a price war will see oil prices at around $40-50. So, less oil at a lower price. You may recall the SNP estimated a price of $110 in 2014 in their (in)famous Independence white paper. This means tough times ahead for oil based economies. It’s not a commodity you’d be planning on going forward. I don't think it's so much the oil as the gas
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 17, 2020 7:56:42 GMT
Oil has now passed peak usage, according to BP. From what I read, this means two things 1) huge amounts of conventional and unconventional fossil fuel will remain where they are and 2) a price war will see oil prices at around $40-50. So, less oil at a lower price. You may recall the SNP estimated a price of $110 in 2014 in their (in)famous Independence white paper. This means tough times ahead for oil based economies. It’s not a commodity you’d be planning on going forward. I don't think it's so much the oil as the gas Same difference. All fossil fuels are in decline meaning supply will increasingly (and significantly) exceed demand. This is a big problem for Russia over the next 30+ years.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Sept 17, 2020 8:10:22 GMT
I don't think it's so much the oil as the gas Same difference. All fossil fuels are in decline meaning supply will increasingly (and significantly) exceed demand. This is a big problem for Russia over the next 30+ years. When I worked in the Middle East, countries like Bahrain are working towards a post hydrocarbon economy if not already there. To sell an independent Scotland with this as a major component for wealth generation is folly.
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Post by dutchstokie on Sept 17, 2020 8:27:10 GMT
I don't think it's so much the oil as the gas Same difference. All fossil fuels are in decline meaning supply will increasingly (and significantly) exceed demand. This is a big problem for Russia over the next 30+ years. Fair comments there Partick but I would inject a note of caution, in as much as although the fossil fuels are in decline, there are enough reserves to last the next 150-200 years in the North Sea. It may be the case that BP have indicated this in some sort of document or paper, I havent read up on it, but when Ive done safety checks on some of the vessels in the North sea and the rigs, you get to start speaking to the people on the coal face so to speak and to a man they tell you that the global players like BP, Shell etc are playing the 'responsibility' card here and showing that they're doing something to change the energy mix currently going on - from fossil fuels to renewables. You see this constantly from adverts on TV and in the papers. In short dont believe everything the mouth pieces from the multinationals tell us As regards to Russia they wont have any issues at all believe me.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 17, 2020 8:56:26 GMT
Same difference. All fossil fuels are in decline meaning supply will increasingly (and significantly) exceed demand. This is a big problem for Russia over the next 30+ years. Fair comments there Partick but I would inject a note of caution, in as much as although the fossil fuels are in decline, there are enough reserves to last the next 150-200 years in the North Sea. It may be the case that BP have indicated this in some sort of document or paper, I havent read up on it, but when Ive done safety checks on some of the vessels in the North sea and the rigs, you get to start speaking to the people on the coal face so to speak and to a man they tell you that the global players like BP, Shell etc are playing the 'responsibility' card here and showing that they're doing something to change the energy mix currently going on - from fossil fuels to renewables. You see this constantly from adverts on TV and in the papers. In short dont believe everything the mouth pieces from the multinationals tell us As regards to Russia they wont have any issues at all believe me. True - this may well be corporate speak. It does seem to have struck a chord this week though eg Expect More Venezuelas in the Post-Peak Oil EraThis chart shows neatly summarises the argument they are making. Worrying if you base your economy on fossil fuels (if it is correct!).
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 17, 2020 9:03:37 GMT
Although, presidents negotiate trade deals Congress votes on them! Looks like Boris has upset the Irish American constituency? Maybe they'll start clubbing together again and start funding the murder of innocent British subjects like the last time Funnily enough 3 out of 4 were most likely doing this previously, probably now Jezza.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Sept 17, 2020 9:47:50 GMT
Maybe the congressman is no friend of peace but that’s totally irrelevant to the fact he still has a vote on any trade deal(assuming he is re-elected in November)! Only our right wingers can deflect from the mess we’re in by throwing more sheisse!
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 17, 2020 10:07:55 GMT
Maybe the congressman is no friend of peace but that’s totally irrelevant to the fact he still has a vote on any trade deal(assuming he is re-elected in November)! Only our right wingers can deflect from the mess we’re in by throwing more sheisse! Anyway it will all be irrelevant when trump wins the election
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 18, 2020 5:48:28 GMT
Why does the Right always blame other people?
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 18, 2020 6:52:02 GMT
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Sept 18, 2020 9:30:37 GMT
‘Reach’ publishes The Sentinel too so you know the accuracy of this report is gold plated!😂
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Post by followyoudown on Sept 18, 2020 10:24:16 GMT
Maybe the congressman is no friend of peace but that’s totally irrelevant to the fact he still has a vote on any trade deal(assuming he is re-elected in November)! Only our right wingers can deflect from the mess we’re in by throwing more sheisse! Its very relevant, firstly he's playing to the vote for re-election, secondly by the time a FTA is ready to be agreed with USA, it will have been all settled with the EU and thirdly despite noises to the contrary they will always put the interests and profits of american companies before stucking up for their irish brothers.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 18, 2020 12:08:28 GMT
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 18, 2020 12:39:09 GMT
Distinctly bad news That fop haired bastard is about to sell us out Saying well I got them to back down on Northern Ireland No deal the only true Brexit
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 18, 2020 12:54:08 GMT
"Britain may ban fur products post Brexit". Well done, Carrie, something we can all get behind. No idea what you see in that tubby Bluffer but good on you for bringing some decency to the government at last.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 18, 2020 13:16:33 GMT
That's very interesting. However, the slightly more trustworthy (and far less insane) Telegraph says the complete opposite! "Government backs down in Brussels food blockade row" "Britain yesterday backed down in the food blockade row with Brussels and agreed to EU demands for further details on its food and animal health regime after Brexit..." It goes on, but you get the gist. One more U-turn to add to the list. Oh, and The Express is reporting utter bollocks as normal.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 18, 2020 13:46:31 GMT
That's very interesting. However, the slightly more trustworthy (and far less insane) Telegraph says the complete opposite! "Government backs down in Brussels food blockade row" "Britain yesterday backed down in the food blockade row with Brussels and agreed to EU demands for further details on its food and animal health regime after Brexit..." It goes on, but you get the gist. One more U-turn to add to the list. Oh, and The Express is reporting utter bollocks as normal. It made me laugh. That “ breaking international” law gambit is just about the most stupid thing I’ve heard in many years. It’s a Ratner moment. Possibly even exceeds Ratner.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Sept 18, 2020 21:35:36 GMT
Three years will fly. Buffer will be long gone, plenty of oil and gas left. They will be selling energy to their neighbour. They will be copying Norway Dangerous water to tread if Jimmy Krankie thinks the North Sea gas and oil belongs to Scotland because, although administered in Aberdeen on behalf of the U.K., the majority of the oil fields will lie in English Economic Sea Space. Here’s why....the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea defines how 200 mile Economic Sea Space (ESS) is divided in disputed areas. It states that a line of the boarder between 2 countries must be extrapolated into the disputed ESS and that boarder will constitute the division between the 2 countries ESS. In the case of English/Scottish ESS the line between Carlisle and Berwick will be extrapolated in a NE direction to the limit of the sea space. This puts the majority of the oil and gas fields in English ESS. Wee krankie decided to use the line of latitude from Berwick into the North Sea and claim Scottish ESS to the North thus claimiming the majority of the oil fields. I’m hoping the U.K. government are keeping their powders dry on this one and fire it during any IndyRef2 in the future. Why NE direction,?
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Post by discodave on Sept 19, 2020 6:52:05 GMT
Although, presidents negotiate trade deals Congress votes on them! Looks like Boris has upset the Irish American constituency? And now Biden has chipped in. Unsurprisingly. That “breaking international law” comment is about the dumbest political statement I can recall for many a long year. Cam someone remind me again how many times Merkel along with the Central Bank have said no on treaties ...time to go and for me on a no deal basis
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 19, 2020 6:54:03 GMT
And now Biden has chipped in. Unsurprisingly. That “breaking international law” comment is about the dumbest political statement I can recall for many a long year. Cam someone remind me again how many times Merkel along with the Central Bank have said no on treaties ...time to go and for me on a no deal basis It’s not what you do, it’s what you say. That is the essence of politics.
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Post by discodave on Sept 19, 2020 6:57:46 GMT
Maybe the congressman is no friend of peace but that’s totally irrelevant to the fact he still has a vote on any trade deal(assuming he is re-elected in November)! Only our right wingers can deflect from the mess we’re in by throwing more sheisse! Anyway it will all be irrelevant when trump wins the election Yes please I want to see some Democrats and kiddy fiddlers facing some jail time. WWG1WGA
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Post by discodave on Sept 19, 2020 7:02:06 GMT
Always have in the back of your mind the comments of David Davies 4 years ago..nothing will be decided until the end of the process. We are coming to this point Strike the best deal for the UK...#TAKEBACKCONTROL
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 19, 2020 7:03:25 GMT
And now Biden has chipped in. Unsurprisingly. That “breaking international law” comment is about the dumbest political statement I can recall for many a long year. Cam someone remind me again how many times Merkel along with the Central Bank have said no on treaties ...time to go and for me on a no deal basis No idea, but I'll bet the UK has benefited more from "saying no on treaties" than almost every other EU nation, and still the EU is apparently the bully! The reality is that the UK has routinely negotiated special dispensations from various EU obligations many times over. It's only the likes of the headbangers in the Tory Party supported by the Express, Mail and Torygraph promoting the "unfair bullying" line that allows some people to think the UK has been treated harshly. You can see why they do it, it does reel a lot of folk in... Edit: just checked - at the time we left, the UK had the most opt outs of any EU country...oh, those nasty unfair EU bullies!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 19, 2020 7:06:09 GMT
Always have in the back of your mind the comments of David Davies 4 years ago..nothing will be decided until the end of the process. We are coming to this point Strike the best deal for the UK...#TAKEBACKCONTROL His comments often are in the back of my mind. Easiest trade deal in history, he said, concluded in an afternoon. He's a fucking idiot who was soon replaced from DexEU when it was blindingly obvious he was a fucking idiot, completely out of his depth!
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