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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 26, 2020 15:46:36 GMT
More Africans voted to remain,more Asians voted to remain etc etc.Understand? Now now, don't get pissy just because you can't construct a post correctly! Your "Fact" clearly stated "No" not more or less so it was incorrect and not a fact, understand? Totally agree but let's not let the truth spoil a poorly executed point
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Post by Davef on Feb 26, 2020 16:06:01 GMT
None just facts. Information is power. To solve the problem first of all you need to understand it. The public were given a free, democratic vote and exercised their right to do so. The result not going the way you wanted it to go doesn't mean there's a problem.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 26, 2020 16:12:24 GMT
More Africans voted to remain,more Asians voted to remain etc etc.Understand? Seems a bit racist to me I am pretty sure everyone who voted was a british citizen and therefore strange you would imply they are not by calling them Africans and Asians.
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 26, 2020 16:12:50 GMT
None just facts. Information is power. To solve the problem first of all you need to understand it. The public were given a free, democratic vote and exercised their right to do so. The result not going the way you wanted it to go doesn't mean there's a problem. To solve anything you need to understand it.Not really difficult is it.
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Post by algor on Feb 26, 2020 16:54:03 GMT
The public were given a free, democratic vote and exercised their right to do so. The result not going the way you wanted it to go doesn't mean there's a problem. To solve anything you need to understand it.Not really difficult is it. What is it you are trying to solve?
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 26, 2020 16:57:43 GMT
The public were given a free, democratic vote and exercised their right to do so. The result not going the way you wanted it to go doesn't mean there's a problem. To solve anything you need to understand it.Not really difficult is it. So working class white men are a 'problem' that needs to be 'solved'? Is it off to the gulags for re-education or straight to the gas chambers?
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Post by franklin66 on Feb 26, 2020 17:17:15 GMT
To solve anything you need to understand it.Not really difficult is it. So working class white men are a 'problem' that needs to be 'solved'? Is it off to the gulags for re-education or straight to the gas chambers? It's a bizarre comment to make it's clear to anyone he is denigrating voters because he knows best.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 26, 2020 18:56:37 GMT
More Africans voted to remain,more Asians voted to remain etc etc.Understand? Seems a bit racist to me I am pretty sure everyone who voted was a british citizen and therefore strange you would imply they are not by calling them Africans and Asians. i do think that the constant reference to colour and race largely by white people, possibly to make themselves feel better, is doing more harm to race relations than almost anything else
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Post by felonious on Feb 26, 2020 20:41:58 GMT
Just a few facts Most over 65 voted brexit. The lower working class voted the most for brexit. More men than women voted for brexit. The unemployed voted mostly to leave. No ethnic minorities voted to leave. And? Natalie Wood is no longer with us?
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 26, 2020 22:09:26 GMT
Natalie Wood is no longer with us? But she is still with Eggy
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Post by Eggybread on Feb 27, 2020 8:37:56 GMT
To solve anything you need to understand it.Not really difficult is it. So working class white men are a 'problem' that needs to be 'solved'? Is it off to the gulags for re-education or straight to the gas chambers? I may as well not post anything on here because people just read something twist it to their agenda and go on the attack again and again.Its all very amusing. Attacked for my post about "white men" attacked on the post about "black men" "denigrating voters because he knows best"
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Post by algor on Feb 27, 2020 8:46:38 GMT
So working class white men are a 'problem' that needs to be 'solved'? Is it off to the gulags for re-education or straight to the gas chambers? I may as well not post anything on here because people just read something twist it to their agenda and go on the attack again and again.Its all very amusing. Attacked for my post about "white men" attacked on the post about "black men" "denigrating voters because he knows best" At last we agree on something.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 27, 2020 10:49:23 GMT
So a new no deal deadline in four months and fuck the consequences for industry and workers.
Get Brexit done my hairy ringpiece.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 27, 2020 12:18:34 GMT
So a new no deal deadline in four months and fuck the consequences for industry and workers. Get Brexit done my hairy ringpiece. Seems like a reasonable starting point for negotiation.
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Post by felonious on Feb 27, 2020 12:24:05 GMT
So a new no deal deadline in four months and fuck the consequences for industry and workers. Get Brexit done my hairy ringpiece. Seems like a reasonable starting point for negotiation. Just three and a half years late due to Labour's politicking
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 27, 2020 12:28:28 GMT
Perhaps it's just as apt to ask " What now for the EU?"...as that is the road we could be on?
It seems to me that since we left it has dawned on quite a few people how our sovereignty had been undermined, without consent.
Irrespective of whether you believe in the strategy that Ursula is talking about.....where is the scrutiny and debate, where did the impetus for it originate? It isn't enough and it isn't democracy to say that at some point in the EU structures the nation states have bought into and consented to the system. What has happened, as Tony Benn put very well, through governmental mechanisms in each of the member states democracy and the democratic system have been ceded to these unknown bureaucrats who are revelling in the power ( and financial rewards/ lifestyle) that this project has given them.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 27, 2020 12:30:29 GMT
So a new no deal deadline in four months and fuck the consequences for industry and workers. Get Brexit done my hairy ringpiece. Seems like a reasonable starting point for negotiation. Yeah, it's great. The hard right wing Brexit Zealots thinking of the working man.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 27, 2020 12:36:15 GMT
Seems like a reasonable starting point for negotiation. Yeah, it's great. The hard right wing Brexit Zealots thinking of the working man. I’d have thought any self respecting socialist would be backing Johnson on this as he is refusing, among other things, to accept EU state aid regulations which would, of course, allow a UK government to undertake nationalisation of any and as many industries as it wanted to.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 27, 2020 12:42:46 GMT
Finally drawing the beast of the EU to the table. Hold your nerve Boris and back up what you say. As much as some actually want this to go wrong so they can wallow in self righteousness, we will be fine.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 27, 2020 13:16:31 GMT
Yeah, it's great. The hard right wing Brexit Zealots thinking of the working man. I’d have thought any self respecting socialist would be backing Johnson on this as he is refusing, among other things, to accept EU state aid regulations which would, of course, allow a UK government to undertake nationalisation of any and as many industries as it wanted to. The right wing loons are running the show now, this is not about state aid or anything else it's pure dogma. Their own assessments reveal what will happen to the weakest in our society if there is a no deal.....and they simply don't give a fuck.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Feb 27, 2020 13:37:15 GMT
I’d have thought any self respecting socialist would be backing Johnson on this as he is refusing, among other things, to accept EU state aid regulations which would, of course, allow a UK government to undertake nationalisation of any and as many industries as it wanted to. The right wing loons are running the show now, this is not about state aid or anything else it's pure dogma. Their own assessments reveal what will happen to the weakest in our society if there is a no deal.....and they simply don't give a fuck. I don't get your short term view of the whole situation. By the time 'Brexit is done' we'll already be a year down the line of this Tory government, it would then take them atleast another year to implement most of the changes you're fearing they might do, so then at the very worst we'll have 3 years left of them, and if they're going to be as bad/nasty/evil as you say they are, surely Labour will piss the next election & we then end up with the Labour government you want, and if the Labour government are going to be as good as you say they are they'll surely stay in power for decades to come... And thanks to us being out of the EU they'll be able to do whatever they like.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 27, 2020 13:39:20 GMT
Seems like a reasonable starting point for negotiation. Just three and a half years late due to Labour's politicking Yes I forgot in those 3 years there wasnt a single Conservative MP to vote against the 'deal' was there? 🙄
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 27, 2020 13:44:39 GMT
The right wing loons are running the show now, this is not about state aid or anything else it's pure dogma. Their own assessments reveal what will happen to the weakest in our society if there is a no deal.....and they simply don't give a fuck. I don't get your short term view of the whole situation. By the time 'Brexit is done' we'll already be a year down the line of this Tory government, it would then take them atleast another year to implement most of the changes you're fearing they might do, so then at the very worst we'll have 3 years left of them, and if they're going to be as bad/nasty/evil as you say they are, surely Labour will piss the next election & we then end up with the Labour government you want, and if the Labour government are going to be as good as you say they are they'll surely stay in power for decades to come... And thanks to us being out of the EU they'll be able to do whatever they like. I think Momo's view of the world via the man saves small child being savaged by a dog by hitting it with a stick joke is Labour supporter risks life to save child from rabid dog Tory supporter attacks family pet
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 27, 2020 13:45:58 GMT
I’d have thought any self respecting socialist would be backing Johnson on this as he is refusing, among other things, to accept EU state aid regulations which would, of course, allow a UK government to undertake nationalisation of any and as many industries as it wanted to. The right wing loons are running the show now, this is not about state aid or anything else it's pure dogma. Their own assessments reveal what will happen to the weakest in our society if there is a no deal.....and they simply don't give a fuck. The assessments are by the people who couldn't get what happens the day after a brexit vote right so...............
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 27, 2020 13:56:19 GMT
The right wing loons are running the show now, this is not about state aid or anything else it's pure dogma. Their own assessments reveal what will happen to the weakest in our society if there is a no deal.....and they simply don't give a fuck. I don't get your short term view of the whole situation. By the time 'Brexit is done' we'll already be a year down the line of this Tory government, it would then take them atleast another year to implement most of the changes you're fearing they might do, so then at the very worst we'll have 3 years left of them, and if they're going to be as bad/nasty/evil as you say they are, surely Labour will piss the next election & we then end up with the Labour government you want, and if the Labour government are going to be as good as you say they are they'll surely stay in power for decades to come... And thanks to us being out of the EU they'll be able to do whatever they like. Mo can’t see past the end of his nose.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 27, 2020 17:09:46 GMT
A bold statement that needs to be said......but it simply emphasises the starting point for any independent country.....ie what is " ours" is " ours" ....there' s no shame in that.....eg....the starting point for Japan , Australia or the USA
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Feb 27, 2020 17:27:09 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 27, 2020 17:47:42 GMT
I wouldn't presume that criminal law and justice is the same across Europe in respect of offences, evidence and fair trials....and I seem to recall that Barnier threatened to kick us out anyway if we left the EU without a " soft " Brexit....although that may prove to have been another fear/ threat tactic.
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Post by Davef on Feb 27, 2020 17:52:34 GMT
The EAW is an EU competence, so of course we're withdrawing from it.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 27, 2020 23:25:14 GMT
A bold statement that needs to be said......but it simply emphasises the starting point for any independent country.....ie what is " ours" is " ours" ....there' s no shame in that.....eg....the starting point for Japan , Australia or the USA What a week, fish and blue passports! Get the bunting up. 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 So in essence from today's revelations we are actively seeking a 'Canada style deal' 🇨🇦 Britain is setting a hard-ish deadline of if you prefer, red line, of June to show progress is being made.⏳ If no progress has been made we will be pulling the plug and going for an Australia style agreement/deal.* 🇦🇺 *of which there is no such thing ❌ **for those interested one of the reasons it doesnt exist is due to cartogenics involving beef 🐃 Ultimately leading to no deal (but we don't want to call it that) and the economical cliff edge. 🖲 Now, as we are in the position we are in I sincerely hope we have the shit hottest of negotiators dealing with Brussels 🙏, however I won't be holding my breath.
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