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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2017 20:05:05 GMT
With two fast wingers either side. Which we haven't got. We don't need a slow forward who would be signed as a marketing gimmick. Thats the problem if it happened its a pr stunt, marketing gimmick whatever you want to call it. Its not a football signing as the cost of the package could be much more effectively used on signing players that could stand us in goos stead for years to come however you look at it unless its funded from outside the budget of the football club its effectively bet365 taking money out of the club. It would be the ultimate Stoke of the last two years signing. No football thought behind it, no long term football vision, short termism bullshit.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2017 20:07:28 GMT
With two fast wingers either side. Which we haven't got. We don't need a slow forward who would be signed as a marketing gimmick. Wayne Rooney merely a marketing gimmick....Jesus christ what planet are you on? Playing behind the striker he would transform the way we play. It's all bollocks because he won't be signing but to merely diss him as a marketing gimmick shows just how dumb you are. You are obsessed with young and quick. There is a bit more to football than that sunshine. Because football today is about pace, we have none and it's what we need. He would be signed by the board to make money for their company. That's a marketing gimmick and the footballing reasons come a poor second. Look at the best teams, pace is key to them all. If we signed a new forward line to play around him that were quick then I would be down with that. That isn't going to happen.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jun 13, 2017 20:08:20 GMT
With two fast wingers either side. Which we haven't got. We don't need a slow forward who would be signed as a marketing gimmick. Thats the problem if it happened its a pr stunt, marketing gimmick whatever you want to call it. Its not a football signing as the cost of the package could be much more effectively used on signing players that could stand us in goos stead for years to come however you look at it unless its funded from outside the budget of the football club its effectively bet365 taking money out of the club. It's their money though. We wouldn't even be in the Premier League without Bet365 never mind stay in it for 10 seasons. If they're happy to pay it (and at the risk of repeating myself I'm certain they won't) why should we worry. Bet365 made nearly half a billion pounds worth of profit last year.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2017 20:10:16 GMT
Thats the problem if it happened its a pr stunt, marketing gimmick whatever you want to call it. Its not a football signing as the cost of the package could be much more effectively used on signing players that could stand us in goos stead for years to come however you look at it unless its funded from outside the budget of the football club its effectively bet365 taking money out of the club. It's their money though. We wouldn't even be in the Premier League without Bet365 never mind stay in it for 10 seasons. If they're happy to pay it (and at the risk of repeating myself I'm certain they won't) why should we worry. Bet365 made nearly half a billion pounds worth of profit last year. Because we don't need him? A slow forward is the last thing we need in fact.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 13, 2017 20:10:29 GMT
I have never been his biggest fan. But.... ....it's Wayne Rooney. Why would we not take him if we could make it work financially?!?! We have zero need for him? Really? He's genuine top 6, even top 4, standard. Even in his twilight. How would we not benefit from signing him?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jun 13, 2017 20:11:17 GMT
It's their money though. We wouldn't even be in the Premier League without Bet365 never mind stay in it for 10 seasons. If they're happy to pay it (and at the risk of repeating myself I'm certain they won't) why should we worry. Bet365 made nearly half a billion pounds worth of profit last year. Because we don't need him? A slow forward is the last thing we need in fact. If we play him as a number ten, he'd be fucking mint for us. It's still not happening.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2017 20:11:56 GMT
We have zero need for him? Really? He's genuine top 6, even top 4, standard. Even in his twilight. How would we not benefit from signing him? He's shown he isn't.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2017 20:13:21 GMT
Because we don't need him? A slow forward is the last thing we need in fact. If we play him as a number ten, he'd be fucking mint for us. It's still not happening. Would he? Who's he getting the ball off? Who's making the runs? Who's going to do his running for him? Are Arnie and Shaq going to stay out his bastard way (he's not mobile enough to get around the front line like he'd need to get out of theirs), etc etc etc.
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Post by alster on Jun 13, 2017 20:13:33 GMT
Thats the problem if it happened its a pr stunt, marketing gimmick whatever you want to call it. Its not a football signing as the cost of the package could be much more effectively used on signing players that could stand us in goos stead for years to come however you look at it unless its funded from outside the budget of the football club its effectively bet365 taking money out of the club. It would be the ultimate Stoke of the last two years signing. No football thought behind it, no long term football vision, short termism bullshit. Yes but however you look at it if they're spending the football budget on promoting bet365 internationally they're taking out money a reversal of their investment. If thats a sign of things to come you have to be worried.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 13, 2017 20:14:43 GMT
Really? He's genuine top 6, even top 4, standard. Even in his twilight. How would we not benefit from signing him? He's shown he isn't. Like when he stuck a stunning free kick into our net six months ago?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2017 20:15:36 GMT
It would be the ultimate Stoke of the last two years signing. No football thought behind it, no long term football vision, short termism bullshit. Yes but however you look at it if they're spending the football budget on promoting bet365 internationally they're taking out money a reversal of their investment. If thats a sign of things to come you have to be worried. I've been worried for 18 months with the direction they're taking us.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 13, 2017 20:15:37 GMT
If we play him as a number ten, he'd be fucking mint for us. It's still not happening. Would he? Who's he getting the ball off? Who's making the runs? Who's going to do his running for him? Are Arnie and Shaq going to stay out his bastard way (he's not mobile enough to get around the front line like he'd need to get out of theirs), etc etc etc. Are we writing off Berahino then?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jun 13, 2017 20:15:38 GMT
If we play him as a number ten, he'd be fucking mint for us. It's still not happening. Would he? Who's he getting the ball off? Who's making the runs? Who's going to do his running for him? Are Arnie and Shaq going to stay out his bastard way (he's not mobile enough to get around the front line like he'd need to get out of theirs), etc etc etc. In a 4231 he'd get the ball off Fletcher. A front four of him, Saido, Arnie and Shaq would be very fucking exciting. It's still not happening though.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2017 20:17:54 GMT
Like when he stuck a stunning free kick into our net six months ago? Ah one thing. Countered by not being able to get in a top sixes teams side. Which kind of exactly proves what you said you wrong. And they're easily the worst side of the lot and there's no chance he'd get into any of the other top 6's side. He wouldn't get into Everton's either.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2017 20:18:27 GMT
Would he? Who's he getting the ball off? Who's making the runs? Who's going to do his running for him? Are Arnie and Shaq going to stay out his bastard way (he's not mobile enough to get around the front line like he'd need to get out of theirs), etc etc etc. Are we writing off Berahino then? No, Hughes is the problem. He hasn't got a clue with him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2017 20:19:49 GMT
Would he? Who's he getting the ball off? Who's making the runs? Who's going to do his running for him? Are Arnie and Shaq going to stay out his bastard way (he's not mobile enough to get around the front line like he'd need to get out of theirs), etc etc etc. In a 4231 he'd get the ball off Fletcher. A front four of him, Saido, Arnie and Shaq would be very fucking exciting. It's still not happening though. Fletcher shouldn't be in the starting XI. Is it? Maybe if Hughes figured out how to use Berahino. Which doesn't look like happening any time soon.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 13, 2017 20:21:02 GMT
Like when he stuck a stunning free kick into our net six months ago? Ah one thing. Countered by not being able to get in a top sixes teams side. Which kind of exactly proves what you said you wrong. And they're easily the worst side of the lot and there's no chance he'd get into any of the other top 6's side. He wouldn't get into Everton's either. He's not the force he was but he's head and shoulders above what we have. Still. And he'd start 20 games next season for any of the top six, bar maybe Chelsea.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 13, 2017 20:22:14 GMT
Are we writing off Berahino then? No, Hughes is the problem. He hasn't got a clue with him. But you surely answer your own question. Who's making runs off Rooney? Berahino. Not that it matters because it won't happen.
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Post by dutchstokie on Jun 13, 2017 20:23:16 GMT
STOP THIS NONSENSE!!!!!!!
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jun 13, 2017 20:23:17 GMT
In a 4231 he'd get the ball off Fletcher. A front four of him, Saido, Arnie and Shaq would be very fucking exciting. It's still not happening though. Fletcher shouldn't be in the starting XI. Is it? Maybe if Hughes figured out how to use Berahino. Which doesn't look like happening any time soon. I think Fletcher will do well for us.
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Post by alster on Jun 13, 2017 20:23:47 GMT
Thats the problem if it happened its a pr stunt, marketing gimmick whatever you want to call it. Its not a football signing as the cost of the package could be much more effectively used on signing players that could stand us in goos stead for years to come however you look at it unless its funded from outside the budget of the football club its effectively bet365 taking money out of the club. It's their money though. We wouldn't even be in the Premier League without Bet365 never mind stay in it for 10 seasons. If they're happy to pay it (and at the risk of repeating myself I'm certain they won't) why should we worry. Bet365 made nearly half a billion pounds worth of profit last year. Because bet365 has been our benefactor signing a player for the purpose of promoting their brand from the budget of the football club is the opposite thats bet365 leeching from the club. If they want to sign a player on a £45M package as a promotion of their brand they should write off £45M from what the club owes them its simply not a footballing descision.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2017 20:24:45 GMT
Fletcher shouldn't be in the starting XI. Is it? Maybe if Hughes figured out how to use Berahino. Which doesn't look like happening any time soon. I think Fletcher will do well for us. I think we'll get relegated.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jun 13, 2017 20:28:10 GMT
I think Fletcher will do well for us. I think we'll get relegated. Barmey Benji is dead, long live Barmey Bayern
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 13, 2017 20:30:12 GMT
I think we'll get relegated. Barmey Benji is dead, long live Barmey Bayern Our side looks bloody awful and we have no wiggle room to add to the areas where we need to. It looks like the full backs will be the same as last season. And we'll have a midfield of Fletcher Cameron and Allen. It's going to be relegation or a lot of turgid shite with Crouch up top. Can't wait.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jun 13, 2017 20:33:33 GMT
It's their money though. We wouldn't even be in the Premier League without Bet365 never mind stay in it for 10 seasons. If they're happy to pay it (and at the risk of repeating myself I'm certain they won't) why should we worry. Bet365 made nearly half a billion pounds worth of profit last year. Because bet365 has been our benefactor signing a player for the purpose of promoting their brand from the budget of the football club is the opposite thats bet365 leeching from the club. If they want to sign a player on a £45M package as a promotion of their brand they should write off £45M from what the club owes them its simply not a footballing descision. Like I say, it's all their money and if anyone really thinks we would sign one player like that with the net result being we wouldn't sign any others I think they're dreaming. It's more a case of Bet365 funding a deal if he was interested (which they in turn would benefit from as well). Edit: It's still not happening though! 😁
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Post by alster on Jun 13, 2017 20:41:38 GMT
Because bet365 has been our benefactor signing a player for the purpose of promoting their brand from the budget of the football club is the opposite thats bet365 leeching from the club. If they want to sign a player on a £45M package as a promotion of their brand they should write off £45M from what the club owes them its simply not a footballing descision. Like I say, it's all their money and if anyone really thinks we would sign one player like that with the net result being we wouldn't sign any others I think they're dreaming. It's more a case of Bet365 funding a deal if he was interested (which they in turn would benefit from as well). Edit: It's still not happening though! 😁 If they want to fund it thats fine but its not a footballing decision so shouldn't come from the clubs budget. I just don't see where a club in our position with our needs blows £45M on a package for Wayne Rooney.
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Post by march4 on Jun 13, 2017 20:44:06 GMT
Would he? Who's he getting the ball off? Who's making the runs? Who's going to do his running for him? Are Arnie and Shaq going to stay out his bastard way (he's not mobile enough to get around the front line like he'd need to get out of theirs), etc etc etc. Are we writing off Berahino then? That happened weeks ago.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jun 13, 2017 20:44:09 GMT
Like I say, it's all their money and if anyone really thinks we would sign one player like that with the net result being we wouldn't sign any others I think they're dreaming. It's more a case of Bet365 funding a deal if he was interested (which they in turn would benefit from as well). Edit: It's still not happening though! 😁 If they want to fund it thats fine but its not a footballing decision so shouldn't come from the clubs budget. I just don't see where a club in our position with our needs blows £45M on a package for Wayne Rooney. If they aren't scared of it, we don't need to be either. AND he would improve us hugely! It's still not happening though!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jun 13, 2017 20:47:04 GMT
Like I say, it's all their money and if anyone really thinks we would sign one player like that with the net result being we wouldn't sign any others I think they're dreaming. It's more a case of Bet365 funding a deal if he was interested (which they in turn would benefit from as well). Edit: It's still not happening though! 😁 If they want to fund it thats fine but its not a footballing decision so shouldn't come from the clubs budget. I just don't see where a club in our position with our needs blows £45M on a package for Wayne Rooney. Don't always agree with you but you're on the money here. If Coates wants to indulge this vanity project, that's his prerogative but it should come out of Bet365's marketing budget (or petty cash box!)
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Jun 13, 2017 20:50:43 GMT
If they want to fund it thats fine but its not a footballing decision so shouldn't come from the clubs budget. I just don't see where a club in our position with our needs blows £45M on a package for Wayne Rooney. Don't always agree with you but you're on the money here. If Coates wants to indulge this vanity project, that's his prerogative but it should come out of Bet365's marketing budget (or petty cash box!) I think folk are assuming a lot here (despite it not happening! 😁) If it was in the offing do we think any manager of a club like ours wouldn't want Wayne Rooney in their team? And knowing PC as we do, he doesn't interfere with team affairs and we won't sign any player the manager doesn't want.
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