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Post by nathstoke86 on May 23, 2017 8:04:39 GMT
I've always thought every year the fan can see a player with quality but Hughes never seems too spot them or don't try too get them. For one when Everton got bolasie palace got benteke and sigurdson before he went back Swansea morgan schneiderlin was class and proven in the league but yet Hughes waste 18 mill on imbula who never played in the prem same as Joselu and diouf he wasted some money
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Post by capto on May 23, 2017 8:10:55 GMT
The problem is, what player or his agent, will want to come to stoke? Everton and all the London clubs will offer more money and are bigger attractions. So we have to gamble on players that may come good eg Jack. But 18 mill on Imbula does make you wonder what was going thru his head? Same with 10 mill on Palacious?
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 23, 2017 8:22:22 GMT
Yeah that's my point, last season I think we finished above Everton or season before and people were saying we equal to them but they have spent wise on quality and now they pushed on we haven't. It all comes down too a 25 goal a season striker. If we offloaded all the old players and the money we generate and wages we save we could pay 20/25 mill for sturrige or get Defoe on free and get bojan back playing get shaq bojan arnie behind berinho get another cm to play with Allen and get cb and 2 wing backs we will have a good swason
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Post by salopstick on May 23, 2017 8:43:03 GMT
It's somthing that will continue unless we pay crazy money, which we won't
We try and fail with imbula and succeed with shaquiri and Arnie
Win some lose some and one of the reason we stick with older but proven players in Walters and Crouch
The primary aim is to avoid relegation. League position a bonus
Just the facts of where we are as a club
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Post by lordb on May 23, 2017 8:43:24 GMT
Benteke scored a handy 14 goals and cost about £35m
Scary isn't it?
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Post by salopstick on May 23, 2017 8:45:32 GMT
Benteke scored a handy 14 goals and cost about £35m Scary isn't it? And we'll over £100k per week And nearly got relegated Was it money well spent? |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 23, 2017 8:48:34 GMT
We have bought good players in,but good players are not enough unless we play a system that suits them,we could have 11 world class players, but what would that achieve if we are not a team but 11 individuals?
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 23, 2017 8:51:57 GMT
I think it's money well spent you only had too look what he did at villa, he will score lot more next season he will hit 20 goals. What stoke problem is they spend 10 mill and 6 mill on striker and they do nothing might as well spend 20+ mill on 1 good striker and I can't argue with how well crouch as done but is that just because shows how poor the rest are?? Like how can bony lose is class when he comes too stoke ?? He always scored goals. I read what Alex furguson said yesterday that players mirror there manager on how they performe, we only have look how much passion Hughes shows... nothing he looks like he cba
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Post by jimmygscfc on May 23, 2017 9:37:23 GMT
I think it's money well spent you only had too look what he did at villa, he will score lot more next season he will hit 20 goals. What stoke problem is they spend 10 mill and 6 mill on striker and they do nothing might as well spend 20+ mill on 1 good striker and I can't argue with how well crouch as done but is that just because shows how poor the rest are?? Like how can bony lose is class when he comes too stoke ?? He always scored goals. I read what Alex furguson said yesterday that players mirror there manager on how they performe, we only have look how much passion Hughes shows... nothing he looks like he cba  |
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Post by BraveSirRobin on May 23, 2017 10:39:28 GMT
I think it's money well spent you only had too look what he did at villa, he will score lot more next season he will hit 20 goals. What stoke problem is they spend 10 mill and 6 mill on striker and they do nothing might as well spend 20+ mill on 1 good striker and I can't argue with how well crouch as done but is that just because shows how poor the rest are?? Like how can bony lose is class when he comes too stoke ?? He always scored goals. I read what Alex furguson said yesterday that players mirror there manager on how they performe, we only have look how much passion Hughes shows... nothing he looks like he cba Oh lordy lordy. |
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Post by clarkeda on May 23, 2017 10:44:39 GMT
I think it's money well spent you only had too look what he did at villa, he will score lot more next season he will hit 20 goals. What stoke problem is they spend 10 mill and 6 mill on striker and they do nothing might as well spend 20+ mill on 1 good striker and I can't argue with how well crouch as done but is that just because shows how poor the rest are?? Like how can bony lose is class when he comes too stoke ?? He always scored goals. I read what Alex furguson said yesterday that players mirror there manager on how they performe, we only have look how much passion Hughes shows... nothing he looks like he cba Let's see how they do once lukaku goes, he's going to be a hell of a hole to fill. |
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 23, 2017 10:57:55 GMT
That's my point without him we are very even matched, with a goal scorer we be very close too them
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Post by Davef on May 23, 2017 11:09:53 GMT
What was Mark Hughes saying about computer games last week?
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 23, 2017 11:13:48 GMT
I no but what's he on about computer games ?? No one said it's Fifa, but everyone else in the league is in the same position reguarding players and improving all we need is maybe 4 players
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Post by GoBoks on May 23, 2017 11:53:48 GMT
I've always thought every year the fan can see a player with quality but Hughes never seems too spot them or don't try too get them. For one when Everton got bolasie palace got benteke and sigurdson before he went back Swansea morgan schneiderlin was class and proven in the league but yet Hughes waste 18 mill on imbula who never played in the prem same as Joselu and diouf he wasted some money Always is a long time, in fact, far longer than Hughes has been our manager. |
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Post by GoBoks on May 23, 2017 11:59:17 GMT
Yeah that's my point, last season I think we finished above Everton or season before and people were saying we equal to them but they have spent wise on quality and now they pushed on we haven't. It all comes down too a 25 goal a season striker. If we offloaded all the old players and the money we generate and wages we save we could pay 20/25 mill for sturrige or get Defoe on free and get bojan back playing get shaq bojan arnie behind berinho get another cm to play with Allen and get cb and 2 wing backs we will have a good swason So logically in the years we finished above them, their fans were probably saying the same thing? Like someone else said, " you win some, you lose some". Compare Everton's record over any 10 year period, and you'll find that currently we are doing better relative to them than at any point in our history. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 12:00:36 GMT
What about this Gibson lad from Middlesbrough. Paper talk on about Pulis and some other manager after him. Seems to get good reports, or do we not need him in the position he plays? Thoughts!
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 23, 2017 12:40:21 GMT
I agree Gibson and harry maguire why not get both and Bruno there are back 3 shawcross no where near good enough these days all he does is boots it in the air. Hughes needs grow some balls and get rid why he maybe get 5 million back for him and get youth and quality
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Post by arnie3010 on May 23, 2017 13:05:21 GMT
Schneiderlin only cost 2 or 3 million more than Imbula...
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 23, 2017 13:08:30 GMT
Yeah and he was proven in the premiship and it's like Saha when he left Utd why not get him once again proven premier league player
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Post by jezzascfc on May 23, 2017 13:10:17 GMT
What was Mark Hughes saying about computer games last week? Indeed, and the schools aren't even out for summer yet!  |
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Post by clarkeda on May 23, 2017 13:12:09 GMT
Yeah and he was proven in the premiship and it's like Saha when he left Utd why not get him once again proven premier league player I can't work out if you mean Saha or if you actually meant Zaha |
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 23, 2017 13:23:18 GMT
Zaha sorrt spell check changed It ha. I just think if Hughes got all these contacts from city Chelsea Utd Barca etc why not get loftus check and ake or buma offer them good price john terry be good for a season but then we going have get new again
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 13:33:19 GMT
Apparently skool is out already.
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Post by nathstoke86 on May 23, 2017 13:43:16 GMT
Skool??
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Post by duckling on May 23, 2017 18:52:38 GMT
The problem is, what player or his agent, will want to come to stoke? Everton and all the London clubs will offer more money and are bigger attractions. I also suspect that the London clubs have large networks among each other and with foreign clubs. They particularly seem immersed in the loan market. Deals are done very quickly with the London clubs. Even the lower league clubs in the area have no trouble getting promising young players on loan from Premier League clubs. For normal income people, Stoke has an advantage in terms of lower cost of living. That's not an issue for top tier professional footballers. |
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Post by oslostokie1 on May 23, 2017 18:55:34 GMT
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Post by leicspotter on May 23, 2017 19:00:56 GMT
or even 'scool...totally lost on young 'nath'  whoosh |
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Post by GeneralFaye on May 23, 2017 19:04:04 GMT
Is this thread one big wind up? I hope so for the op's sanity.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2017 20:50:24 GMT
There isn't a player around who would join everton over stoke because they won some trophies in the 80's.
All these players care about is the money.
But everton spent a shed load of cash on bolasie and look what happened.
They have also boldly declared they have 100 million to spend, well they have just added ten mill to the price of any player they sign and thereby inflated the transfer market even more.
We really need to focus on our own coaching, improving our own youngsters and giving them chances in the first team. There is no good value in the transfer market for any premier league club
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