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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 26, 2017 9:16:40 GMT
When an atrocity occurs the headline news is the amount of casualties. It is worth remembering those that have survived....I think what this lad has experienced focuses the mind....and it could have been any one of us or our loved ones. dailym.ai/2ww7O53
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Aug 26, 2017 11:12:58 GMT
When an atrocity occurs the headline news is the amount of casualties. It is worth remembering those that have survived....I think what this lad has experienced focuses the mind....and it could have been any one of us or our loved ones. dailym.ai/2ww7O53I always recall the words of one of the surgeons who operated on the casualties: "These children had battlefield injuries..." makes me shudder. Reading the article also makes me wonder what,and how obvious you have to be in your activities before the British Security services deem you to be a 'significant' threat?
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Post by xchpotter on Aug 26, 2017 12:07:38 GMT
When an atrocity occurs the headline news is the amount of casualties. It is worth remembering those that have survived....I think what this lad has experienced focuses the mind....and it could have been any one of us or our loved ones. dailym.ai/2ww7O53I always recall the words of one of the surgeons who operated on the casualties: "These children had battlefield injuries..." makes me shudder. Reading the article also makes me wonder what,and how obvious you have to be in your activities before the British Security services deem you to be a 'significant' threat? The problem is that those who are a significant threat do not have enough resources available to be thrown at them due to wasted money elsewhere, plus there is a never ending line of our favourite, blood sucking legal profession just waiting to protect and make money from this scum......I don't blame the security services at all, they are operating in impossible times.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Aug 29, 2017 11:08:33 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 29, 2017 14:24:19 GMT
I always recall the words of one of the surgeons who operated on the casualties: "These children had battlefield injuries..." makes me shudder. Reading the article also makes me wonder what,and how obvious you have to be in your activities before the British Security services deem you to be a 'significant' threat? The problem is that those who are a significant threat do not have enough resources available to be thrown at them due to wasted money elsewhere, plus there is a never ending line of our favourite, blood sucking legal profession just waiting to protect and make money from this scum......I don't blame the security services at all, they are operating in impossible times. We are at war fighting with one hand tied behind our backs for fear of upsetting certain religious groups.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 22, 2018 4:02:54 GMT
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Post by felonious on May 22, 2018 6:45:47 GMT
It was a tough listen on 5Live earlier. The one with the father who left his daughter in a car to go and find his wife and other daughter who then has to make a decision out of sheer humanity to stay with a dying women not knowing about the fate of his wife and daughter but also knowing that his daughter in the car is going to be in an abject state not knowing about the rest of her family. The father said he didn't sleep for 30 nights. He then found himself on the wrong side of a police cordon and it took an hour to get back to his daughter and locate the other two.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on May 22, 2018 7:52:48 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 22, 2019 18:14:36 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 23, 2019 8:43:18 GMT
Heartbreaking
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Post by kelw on May 23, 2019 8:46:21 GMT
And to think some people wanted a sympathiser to this event into the country
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Post by Eggybread on May 23, 2019 9:04:06 GMT
And to think some people wanted a sympathiser to this event into the country Dear god how embarrassing.
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Post by kelw on May 23, 2019 9:07:30 GMT
And to think some people wanted a sympathiser to this event into the country Dear god how embarrassing. God has a capital G. 8 year old level of spelling.
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Post by Eggybread on May 23, 2019 9:58:30 GMT
Dear god how embarrassing. God has a capital G. 8 year old level of spelling. Maybe in your religion to me god spelled backwards is dog its all the same to me.
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Post by thevoid on May 24, 2019 8:36:07 GMT
And to think some people wanted a sympathiser to this event into the country Dear god how embarrassing. I would have been if she was allowed in.
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Post by scfcwebby on May 24, 2019 8:55:41 GMT
I am not one to cry at stuff like this but this got me big time. Absolutely heartbreaking
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 0:07:17 GMT
I am not one to cry at stuff like this but this got me big time. Absolutely heartbreaking I don't have kids myself yet but the thought of losing my own through just because of attending a music concert, it's terrifying. Nowhere is safe
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Post by NassauDave on May 25, 2019 5:02:39 GMT
The people of Manchester handled this situation with amazing dignity.
Love and best wishes to them all.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 10, 2020 19:02:13 GMT
£2000 per week in benefits AFTER leaving the country.....our taxpayers' contribution to the MEN bombing.......there are some things in which common sense has gone out the window...and those receiving the money know that it is stupid. ......... From the links.... Manchester bomber used family benefit payouts to buy bomb parts, court hears www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/10/manchester-bomber-used-family-benefit-payouts-buy-bomb-parts/The family of Manchester Arena terrorist Salman Abedi claimed thousands of pounds a month in benefits, some of it used in the bomb plot, a jury heard. Mother-of-six Samia Abedi, continued to receive more than £2,000 each month in welfare payments, even after leaving the country for Libya. Manchester Arena bomb parts 'bought by brothers using mum's card' - BBC News www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-manchester-51446214Mrs Tabbal had been receiving tax credits, child and housing benefit of about £550 a week, even though she left the UK for Libya in October 2016.
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Post by foster on Feb 10, 2020 20:04:49 GMT
£2000 per week in benefits AFTER leaving the country.....our taxpayers' contribution to the MEN bombing.......there are some things in which common sense has gone out the window...and those receiving the money know that it is stupid. ......... From the links.... Manchester bomber used family benefit payouts to buy bomb parts, court hears www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/10/manchester-bomber-used-family-benefit-payouts-buy-bomb-parts/The family of Manchester Arena terrorist Salman Abedi claimed thousands of pounds a month in benefits, some of it used in the bomb plot, a jury heard. Mother-of-six Samia Abedi, continued to receive more than £2,000 each month in welfare payments, even after leaving the country for Libya. Manchester Arena bomb parts 'bought by brothers using mum's card' - BBC News www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-manchester-51446214Mrs Tabbal had been receiving tax credits, child and housing benefit of about £550 a week, even though she left the UK for Libya in October 2016. The core of the problem isn't so much people who try to scrounge on benefits. It's how they manage to get away with it in the first place. Too soft.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 11, 2020 21:49:06 GMT
£2000 per week in benefits AFTER leaving the country.....our taxpayers' contribution to the MEN bombing.......there are some things in which common sense has gone out the window...and those receiving the money know that it is stupid. ......... From the links.... Manchester bomber used family benefit payouts to buy bomb parts, court hears www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/10/manchester-bomber-used-family-benefit-payouts-buy-bomb-parts/The family of Manchester Arena terrorist Salman Abedi claimed thousands of pounds a month in benefits, some of it used in the bomb plot, a jury heard. Mother-of-six Samia Abedi, continued to receive more than £2,000 each month in welfare payments, even after leaving the country for Libya. Manchester Arena bomb parts 'bought by brothers using mum's card' - BBC News www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-manchester-51446214Mrs Tabbal had been receiving tax credits, child and housing benefit of about £550 a week, even though she left the UK for Libya in October 2016. The core of the problem isn't so much people who try to scrounge on benefits. It's how they manage to get away with it in the first place. Too soft. The core of the problem is the criminal scrotes who abuse our benefit system simple as that.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 11, 2020 21:53:42 GMT
£2000 per week in benefits AFTER leaving the country.....our taxpayers' contribution to the MEN bombing.......there are some things in which common sense has gone out the window...and those receiving the money know that it is stupid. ......... From the links.... Manchester bomber used family benefit payouts to buy bomb parts, court hears www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/10/manchester-bomber-used-family-benefit-payouts-buy-bomb-parts/The family of Manchester Arena terrorist Salman Abedi claimed thousands of pounds a month in benefits, some of it used in the bomb plot, a jury heard. Mother-of-six Samia Abedi, continued to receive more than £2,000 each month in welfare payments, even after leaving the country for Libya. Manchester Arena bomb parts 'bought by brothers using mum's card' - BBC News www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-manchester-51446214Mrs Tabbal had been receiving tax credits, child and housing benefit of about £550 a week, even though she left the UK for Libya in October 2016. The mother needs bringing to justice as well if this is true, absolute fcuking joke.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Feb 11, 2020 22:00:25 GMT
£2000 per week in benefits AFTER leaving the country.....our taxpayers' contribution to the MEN bombing.......there are some things in which common sense has gone out the window...and those receiving the money know that it is stupid. ......... From the links.... Manchester bomber used family benefit payouts to buy bomb parts, court hears www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/02/10/manchester-bomber-used-family-benefit-payouts-buy-bomb-parts/The family of Manchester Arena terrorist Salman Abedi claimed thousands of pounds a month in benefits, some of it used in the bomb plot, a jury heard. Mother-of-six Samia Abedi, continued to receive more than £2,000 each month in welfare payments, even after leaving the country for Libya. Manchester Arena bomb parts 'bought by brothers using mum's card' - BBC News www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-manchester-51446214Mrs Tabbal had been receiving tax credits, child and housing benefit of about £550 a week, even though she left the UK for Libya in October 2016. The mother needs bringing to justice as well if this is true, absolute fcuking joke. The question for me though Crap is ...."how does our " system" allow it to happen?".....If somehow she was legitimately getting the money or illegally claiming it with ease.....how much more of this is going on ?......Labour seem to think It's supposedly ok to try to ensure that those who are being deported are being treated fairly ( must admit I have not had time to check all this out).....I believe that they would gain more credibility with the ordinary working class if they made an issue of things like this....ordinary working people on low wages are incensed by this....and it adds to racial/ cultural stereotyping and tensions.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 11, 2020 22:07:36 GMT
The mother needs bringing to justice as well if this is true, absolute fcuking joke. The question for me though Crap is ....how does our " system" allow it to happen?".....If somehow she was legitimately getting the money or illegally claiming it with ease.....how much more of this is going on ?......Labour seem to think It's supposedly to try to ensure that those who are being deported are being treated fairly ( must admit I have not had time to check all this out).....I believe that they would gain more credibility with the ordinary working class if they made an issue of things like this....ordinary working people on low wages are incensed by this....and it adds to racial/ cultural stereotyping and tensions. It's also a major part of why millions of decent British working class people have turned their backs on the Labrador party, yet they still have failed to grasp the reality of the situation, they have lost all connection with their real core who feel better represented by the Boris Johnson and no wonder.
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Post by foster on Feb 12, 2020 8:41:15 GMT
The question for me though Crap is ....how does our " system" allow it to happen?".....If somehow she was legitimately getting the money or illegally claiming it with ease.....how much more of this is going on ?......Labour seem to think It's supposedly to try to ensure that those who are being deported are being treated fairly ( must admit I have not had time to check all this out).....I believe that they would gain more credibility with the ordinary working class if they made an issue of things like this....ordinary working people on low wages are incensed by this....and it adds to racial/ cultural stereotyping and tensions. It's also a major part of why millions of decent British working class people have turned their backs on the Labrador party, yet they still have failed to grasp the reality of the situation, they have lost all connection with their real core who feel better represented by the Boris Johnson and no wonder. It's not only immigrants who scrounge off benefits though. There's always news of people claiming disability benefits when they shouldn't, or claiming sick leave when it's not warranted. People having tons of kids so they never have to work, etc. It's clear that tougher restrictions are needed, the problem is that politicians are shit scared because there's a growing proportion of voters who systematically whinge about their rights being taken away. But hey, as long as the politicians get their massive wages and benefits, who gives a fuck about everyone else. Just throw out a few hard toned lines every now and again and people will think you're actually going to do something about it. Everything is turning to shit and no one has the balls to make a real change. We can't even recycle properly, let alone sort out the NHS, immigration, benefit cheats, etc.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 12, 2020 12:23:53 GMT
It's also a major part of why millions of decent British working class people have turned their backs on the Labrador party, yet they still have failed to grasp the reality of the situation, they have lost all connection with their real core who feel better represented by the Boris Johnson and no wonder. It's not only immigrants who scrounge off benefits though. There's always news of people claiming disability benefits when they shouldn't, or claiming sick leave when it's not warranted. People having tons of kids so they never have to work, etc. It's clear that tougher restrictions are needed, the problem is that politicians are shit scared because there's a growing proportion of voters who systematically whinge about their rights being taken away. But hey, as long as the politicians get their massive wages and benefits, who gives a fuck about everyone else. Just throw out a few hard toned lines every now and again and people will think you're actually going to do something about it. Everything is turning to shit and no one has the balls to make a real change. We can't even recycle properly, let alone sort out the NHS, immigration, benefit cheats, etc. I agree the system has to change, all immigrants should have no access to any benefits if they have contributed nothing, where else would they get money for nothing ? no wonder they flock here.
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Post by foster on Feb 12, 2020 15:12:28 GMT
It's not only immigrants who scrounge off benefits though. There's always news of people claiming disability benefits when they shouldn't, or claiming sick leave when it's not warranted. People having tons of kids so they never have to work, etc. It's clear that tougher restrictions are needed, the problem is that politicians are shit scared because there's a growing proportion of voters who systematically whinge about their rights being taken away. But hey, as long as the politicians get their massive wages and benefits, who gives a fuck about everyone else. Just throw out a few hard toned lines every now and again and people will think you're actually going to do something about it. Everything is turning to shit and no one has the balls to make a real change. We can't even recycle properly, let alone sort out the NHS, immigration, benefit cheats, etc. I agree the system has to change, all immigrants should have no access to any benefits if they have contributed nothing, where else would they get money for nothing ? no wonder they flock here. No problem for me. I also think that people shouldn't be able to vote unless they've contributed to society (paid taxes, retired or perform approved voluntary unpaid work). Excluding of course those unable to work for other valid reasons. I don't like the idea of freeloaders having a say in how things are run.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on May 22, 2021 8:22:44 GMT
Four years ago today
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 22, 2021 13:44:36 GMT
Blimey that’s soon passed. Even though this country is the world leader in extended mourning and justice seeking that can go on for decades this still unbelievable tragedy doesn’t seem to receive anywhere near the magnitude of “remembrance” nor general outrage that nothing more is being done to root out these mass murderers at source before they get anywhere near being able to slaughter our children on a whim.
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Post by questionable on May 22, 2021 13:56:58 GMT
I can recall saying to the wife I’ve just had an email about tickets for this venue/date due you fancy going?? As luck as it she wasn’t interested
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