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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 21, 2017 9:08:43 GMT
Chuka Umunna seemed unwilling or unable to answer this simple question from Andrew Neil(despite Neil's persistence) on This Week. At least have the balls to say what you really think, Chuka! And they wonder why people struggle to vote for such sneaky bastards!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 9:16:45 GMT
Chuka Umunna seemed unwilling or unable to answer this simple question from Andrew Neil(despite Neil's persistence) on This Week. At least have the balls to say what you really think, Chuka! And they wonder why people struggle to vote for such sneaky bastards! Could he be too " chicken " to say what he thinks ?
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 21, 2017 9:21:38 GMT
No
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 21, 2017 9:27:05 GMT
Didn't he chicken out of the labour leadership race in 2015 .
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 21, 2017 9:29:02 GMT
Didn't he chicken out of the labour leadership race in 2015 .
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 21, 2017 9:30:22 GMT
Chuka Umunna seemed unwilling or unable to answer this simple question from Andrew Neil(despite Neil's persistence) on This Week. At least have the balls to say what you really think, Chuka! And they wonder why people struggle to vote for such sneaky bastards! Could he be too " chicken " to say what he thinks ?
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Post by yeokel on Apr 21, 2017 9:32:36 GMT
Chuka Umunna seemed unwilling or unable to answer this simple question from Andrew Neil(despite Neil's persistence) on This Week. At least have the balls to say what you really think, Chuka! And they wonder why people struggle to vote for such sneaky bastards! Chuka is just too smarmy to give a straight answer to anything in my opinion. And I wonder if he fancies his chances of the leadership this time around. I know he bottled it last time but I think he still fancies it 'when the time is right'. Although he's no more a 'leader' than Corbyn. And, someone should tell Ann Widdecombe that she can't keep wearing the same clothes that she wore when she was a good deal plumper, some twenty years ago. She looked ridiculous in that outfit she wore last night. FFS Ann, get some small size stuff from a local charity shop. It will be much more in keeping with how you look these days. And, talking of plump, who was that tub of lard they had on at the end?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 9:38:09 GMT
Could he be too " chicken " to say what he thinks ? Tired ? ......go and take a nap for six weeks or so
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 21, 2017 9:51:09 GMT
Tired ? ......go and take a nap for six weeks or so At least, 'roge', 'followyouwherever' debate the points[and credit to them for that]? What I find interesting over time is to discover that many of the right-wing posters are very comfortably off indeed! 'Mary' talks about her investment manager, 'crap' talks about his civil service pension and emigrating? They're both extremely well sorted and can well afford the luxury of their 'loon and fruitcake' ideas going seriously wrong. Just asking' bispham' are you too very well sorted and can similarly afford cuts to jobs, pay, benefits, inc. pensions, public services inc.N.H.S.? Let's have a bit of honesty and clarity here?
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Post by flea79 on Apr 21, 2017 9:56:28 GMT
i don't believe he would be a good pm at all, he is just another rich boy who to avoid working became a politician, don't trust him, don't trust any of them at all
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Post by chuffedstokie on Apr 21, 2017 10:04:12 GMT
No. Not in my opinion.
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Post by marwood on Apr 21, 2017 10:18:47 GMT
He should be in the Tower, let alone house of commons
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 10:20:28 GMT
Tired ? ......go and take a nap for six weeks or so At least, 'roge', 'followyouwherever' debate the points[and credit to them for that]? What I find interesting over time is to discover that many of the right-wing posters are very comfortably off indeed! 'Mary' talks about her investment manager, 'crap' talks about his civil service pension and emigrating? They're both extremely well sorted and can well afford the luxury of their 'loon and fruitcake' ideas going seriously wrong. Just asking' bispham' are you too very well sorted and can similarly afford cuts to jobs, pay, benefits, inc. pensions, public services inc.N.H.S.? Let's have a bit of honesty and clarity here? My personal affairs with the greatest of respect are nothing to do with you or anybody else on here Nick , let's not try and turn this thread into a personal crusade against posters who share a different point of view than yourself shall we ?
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Post by retired on Apr 21, 2017 10:21:05 GMT
no oh m g never ever .
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Post by bringmesunshine on Apr 21, 2017 10:30:49 GMT
At least, 'roge', 'followyouwherever' debate the points[and credit to them for that]? What I find interesting over time is to discover that many of the right-wing posters are very comfortably off indeed! 'Mary' talks about her investment manager, 'crap' talks about his civil service pension and emigrating? They're both extremely well sorted and can well afford the luxury of their 'loon and fruitcake' ideas going seriously wrong. Just asking' bispham' are you too very well sorted and can similarly afford cuts to jobs, pay, benefits, inc. pensions, public services inc.N.H.S.? Let's have a bit of honesty and clarity here? My personal affairs with the greatest of respect are nothing to do with you or anybody else on here Nick , let's not try and turn this thread into a personal crusade against posters who share a different point of view than yourself shall we ? Quite right and when exactly did it become a crime to work hard be successful and earn enough money and have a few nice possessions in life ?
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Post by trickydicky73 on Apr 21, 2017 10:42:21 GMT
My personal affairs with the greatest of respect are nothing to do with you or anybody else on here Nick , let's not try and turn this thread into a personal crusade against posters who share a different point of view than yourself shall we ? Quite right and when exactly did it become a crime to work hard be successful and earn enough money and have a few nice possessions in life ? Since yesterday? Or whenever McDonnell's tax plans were announced.
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Post by bringmesunshine on Apr 21, 2017 10:47:32 GMT
Quite right and when exactly did it become a crime to work hard be successful and earn enough money and have a few nice possessions in life ? Since yesterday? Or whenever McDonnell's tax plans were announced. Well we can all sleep well knowing that they'll never get in, ever.
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Post by Mendicant on Apr 21, 2017 10:47:34 GMT
No, he looks shifty.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 21, 2017 10:49:58 GMT
At least, 'roge', 'followyouwherever' debate the points[and credit to them for that]? What I find interesting over time is to discover that many of the right-wing posters are very comfortably off indeed! 'Mary' talks about her investment manager, 'crap' talks about his civil service pension and emigrating? They're both extremely well sorted and can well afford the luxury of their 'loon and fruitcake' ideas going seriously wrong. Just asking' bispham' are you too very well sorted and can similarly afford cuts to jobs, pay, benefits, inc. pensions, public services inc.N.H.S.? Let's have a bit of honesty and clarity here? My personal affairs with the greatest of respect are nothing to do with you or anybody else on here Nick , let's not try and turn this thread into a personal crusade against posters who share a different point of view than yourself shall we ? I take it you are well sorted and can afford as David Cameron put it the ideas of "loons and fruitcakes". Anytime I spot any hypocrisy from you right-wingers I'll happily point it out! The pleasure will be all mine!
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 21, 2017 11:03:01 GMT
My personal affairs with the greatest of respect are nothing to do with you or anybody else on here Nick , let's not try and turn this thread into a personal crusade against posters who share a different point of view than yourself shall we ? Quite right and when exactly did it become a crime to work hard be successful and earn enough money and have a few nice possessions in life ? You are missing the point! It's not a crime to do that but it is crime to make poor, sick, disabled, elderly pay the price of a populist right-wing anti-E.U. crusade. Look at how many have run back to the Tories from U.K.I.P.? Reckless, Carswell et al. We had the sight of Carswell campaigning in the Stoke Central by-election for Nutall a couple of weeks ago but now is voting Tory. Don't you think that if we want proper government in the U.K. we should have politicians of integrity. We had Theresa May hiding all Referendum, we had Boris Johnson swapping sides because he wanted Cameron's job 12 months later. The point I'm making is that it's alright for Osborne with his Five Jobs and Cameron with his family assets in the Caribbean to screw up because they've sorted themselves out. Fine but we're having to pay for their mistakes not them! So, anybody else on the Tory Boy gravy train is fair game!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 11:03:28 GMT
My personal affairs with the greatest of respect are nothing to do with you or anybody else on here Nick , let's not try and turn this thread into a personal crusade against posters who share a different point of view than yourself shall we ? I take it you are well sorted and can afford as David Cameron put it the ideas "loons and fruitcakes". Anytime I spot any hypocrisy from you right-wingers I'll happily point it out! The pleasure will be all mine! You take what you wish , you have no idea what you are talking about .....as for " loons and fruitcakes " I suggest you take a look a good nearer home ....If you feel the need to point out any perceived hypocrisy feel free to do so if you have nothing better to do , but try to do it without the constant use of name calling to illustrate your point , it does show a certain degree of shallowness in your arguments I'm afraid , it's starting to get a little boring .
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 21, 2017 11:08:09 GMT
Corbo should follow Unite's policy on retirement age. "68 is too late"
A protester not a Prime Minister.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 21, 2017 11:08:17 GMT
I take it you are well sorted and can afford as David Cameron put it the ideas "loons and fruitcakes". Anytime I spot any hypocrisy from you right-wingers I'll happily point it out! The pleasure will be all mine! You take what you wish , you have no idea what you are talking about .....as for " loons and fruitcakes " I suggest you take a look a good nearer home ....If you feel the need to point out any perceived hypocrisy feel free to do so if you have nothing better to do , but try to do it without the constant use of name calling to illustrate your point , it does show a certain degree of shallowness in your arguments I'm afraid , it's starting to get a little boring . I apologise for using the leader of the Conservative Party's description of U.K.I.P.. I agree that he should have looked closer to home i.e. his own Eurosceptic wing! Shallow? You mean as shallow as Clucker's reasons for calling a general election?
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 21, 2017 11:36:03 GMT
Would Ian Huntley make a good babysitter? I think I'd rather take a chance on him as a babysitter than Cornyn as PM.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 21, 2017 11:37:20 GMT
My personal affairs with the greatest of respect are nothing to do with you or anybody else on here Nick , let's not try and turn this thread into a personal crusade against posters who share a different point of view than yourself shall we ? I take it you are well sorted and can afford as David Cameron put it the ideas of "loons and fruitcakes". Anytime I spot any hypocrisy from you right-wingers I'll happily point it out! The pleasure will be all mine! Anyone who votes Tory does so either because they can afford it as you say Nick, or because they're thick and believe what the establishment tells them. Those two reasons cover all the Tories on here. In Bispham's case, you can add "boring nobhead" to the list of reasons too
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Post by essexstokey on Apr 21, 2017 11:56:58 GMT
Its a shame that Allen Johnson is not standing again for Labour heed have made a great PM
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 12:01:26 GMT
I take it you are well sorted and can afford as David Cameron put it the ideas of "loons and fruitcakes". Anytime I spot any hypocrisy from you right-wingers I'll happily point it out! The pleasure will be all mine! Anyone who votes Tory does so either because they can afford it as you say Nick, or because they're thick and believe what the establishment tells them. Those two reasons cover all the Tories on here. In Bispham's case, you can add "boring nobhead" to the list of reasons too It's obviously still the school holidays ....the kids are on More name calling from the intelligent elite
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Post by bringmesunshine on Apr 21, 2017 12:32:27 GMT
Quite right and when exactly did it become a crime to work hard be successful and earn enough money and have a few nice possessions in life ? You are missing the point! It's not a crime to do that but it is crime to make poor, sick, disabled, elderly pay the price of a populist right-wing anti-E.U. crusade. Look at how many have run back to the Tories from U.K.I.P.? Reckless, Carswell et al. We had the sight of Carswell campaigning in the Stoke Central by-election for Nutall a couple of weeks ago but now is voting Tory. Don't you think that if we want proper government in the U.K. we should have politicians of integrity. We had Theresa May hiding all Referendum, we had Boris Johnson swapping sides because he wanted Cameron's job 12 months later. The point I'm making is that it's alright for Osborne with his Five Jobs and Cameron with his family assets in the Caribbean to screw up because they've sorted themselves out. Fine but we're having to pay for their mistakes not them! So, anybody else on the Tory Boy gravy train is fair game! The majority of leave voters that I've spoken to aren't anti EU and would have voted remain if there was even a whiff of reform or change in the EU, we voted out because we could see where they are heading and we were of the opinion that we would be far better out than in. The reason that the finances of the country are so bad can be traced back to Blair and Brown with the financial deregulation and resulting crash in 2008, we're still paying the price and still running a deficit for another monumental financial cock up, yet again by the Labour party. Cam and Oss were an abject disappointment and should have done more in the intervening period but didn’t and to be honest I'm glad the pair have gone. The flip flopping between parties and sides of Reckless and Boris is a disgrace and I wouldn’t have either of them. We could and should do more for the sick, disabled and elderly but without the money coming into the treasury we can’t, they can’t just magic up a couple of billion and I’ll say it again, we’re still running a deficit, I agree that corporations get away with paying too little tax and something should be done to address that immediately. But here is the crux of the matter from any angle, to pay for services and help our fellow Britain’s we need an economy that is well run and thrives, not policies of irresponsible unaffordable spending in the hope things will get better, we also need a strong negotiator to deliver a Brexit that isn’t a watered-down compromise where we are still bound by the EU’s demands and laws whilst it claims we are out. So here’s your choice, who do you think will run the economy best, whilst negotiating a Brexit that gives us our total independence, Is it May, corbin or would you be happy to see a coalition of Lib, Lab and SNP?
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Post by salopstick on Apr 21, 2017 13:09:06 GMT
One is for certain Jezza would make a better PM than chukka
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Apr 21, 2017 13:30:52 GMT
You are missing the point! It's not a crime to do that but it is crime to make poor, sick, disabled, elderly pay the price of a populist right-wing anti-E.U. crusade. Look at how many have run back to the Tories from U.K.I.P.? Reckless, Carswell et al. We had the sight of Carswell campaigning in the Stoke Central by-election for Nutall a couple of weeks ago but now is voting Tory. Don't you think that if we want proper government in the U.K. we should have politicians of integrity. We had Theresa May hiding all Referendum, we had Boris Johnson swapping sides because he wanted Cameron's job 12 months later. The point I'm making is that it's alright for Osborne with his Five Jobs and Cameron with his family assets in the Caribbean to screw up because they've sorted themselves out. Fine but we're having to pay for their mistakes not them! So, anybody else on the Tory Boy gravy train is fair game! The majority of leave voters that I've spoken to aren't anti EU and would have voted remain if there was even a whiff of reform or change in the EU, we voted out because we could see where they are heading and we were of the opinion that we would be far better out than in. The reason that the finances of the country are so bad can be traced back to Blair and Brown with the financial deregulation and resulting crash in 2008, we're still paying the price and still running a deficit for another monumental financial cock up, yet again by the Labour party. Cam and Oss were an abject disappointment and should have done more in the intervening period but didn’t and to be honest I'm glad the pair have gone. The flip flopping between parties and sides of Reckless and Boris is a disgrace and I wouldn’t have either of them. We could and should do more for the sick, disabled and elderly but without the money coming into the treasury we can’t, they can’t just magic up a couple of billion and I’ll say it again, we’re still running a deficit, I agree that corporations get away with paying too little tax and something should be done to address that immediately. But here is the crux of the matter from any angle, to pay for services and help our fellow Britain’s we need an economy that is well run and thrives, not policies of irresponsible unaffordable spending in the hope things will get better, we also need a strong negotiator to deliver a Brexit that isn’t a watered-down compromise where we are still bound by the EU’s demands and laws whilst it claims we are out. So here’s your choice, who do you think will run the economy best, whilst negotiating a Brexit that gives us our total independence, Is it May, corbin or would you be happy to see a coalition of Lib, Lab and SNP? I've read all that! The choice I've made is to vote for my Labour M.P. Jim Dowd? Why? Because the last time the Tories had a 100 seat majority they introduced The Poll Tax! My hope is that we can save as many good Labour M.P. s as possible because we do have hard working, decent, committed M.P.s. If I was in a Tory-Lib Dem marginal, I would vote Lib Dem tactically to avoid a Tory landslide. In the 2015 general election Cameron ruthlessly attacked his five year colleagues the Lib Dems and cost them tens of seats. The aim of this g.e. is to do the same to Labour. It's got nowt to do with 'Brexit' because May by 2020 would have got the divorce agreed and got halfway if not pretty much completed trade talks too. Look, I don't blame her? I said to Labour relatives she would be mad not to? But, let's not pretend it's about Brexit being stopped by 9 Lib Dem M.P.s or a bunch of geriatric peers?
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