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Post by followyoudown on Apr 5, 2017 8:40:39 GMT
So he's found guilty of anti semitism but is merely suspended, this suspension means he can't stand as a party official but can still attend meetings and vote. That'll learn him......
Corbyn cronyism or is the Labour party now instituitionally racist
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Post by bathstoke on Apr 5, 2017 10:26:20 GMT
He hasn't been found criminally culpable by anyone...
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 5, 2017 11:03:47 GMT
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Post by stockportstokie on Apr 5, 2017 11:47:26 GMT
What's he actually said that was wrong? Full of cunts who couldn't give a fuck about racism. The UK doesn't have a problem with anti Semitism. Apart from linking Jews to wealth i have never heard anything that could be construed as a anti Jewish, it doesn't exist. By the same token i could walk into any boozer and without fail you'd hear the words paki, ragheads, asylum seekers etc etc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 11:50:16 GMT
If he'd have been in ukip he'd have been burnt at the stake by now
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 5, 2017 12:04:11 GMT
A shameful day for Labour - Jewish Chronicle "The truth is that had he been a UKIP member, he would have been expelled for his actions. That is the state of Labour today: more tolerant of bigotry than UKIP." Stephen Pollard, JC. Shocking state of affairs.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 12:09:36 GMT
As brexiters are branded racist for voting leave, does this mean we can label labour supporters anti semitic. Labels seem to be very popular at the moment.
As for livingstone, someone should give him a shovel. He should have been removed, it is clear he has upset many people and his failure to acknowledge what he has done wrong is shameful. Labour really are a useless party aren't they.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 12:12:14 GMT
A shameful day for Labour - Jewish Chronicle "The truth is that had he been a UKIP member, he would have been expelled for his actions. That is the state of Labour today: more tolerant of bigotry than UKIP." Stephen Pollard, JC. Shocking state of affairs. I wouldn't defend either party. UKIP are a slightly better alternative to the BNP. Labour are a slightly better alternative to UKIP. |
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Post by manmarking on Apr 5, 2017 12:18:30 GMT
What's he actually said that was wrong? Full of cunts who couldn't give a fuck about racism. The UK doesn't have a problem with anti Semitism. Apart from linking Jews to wealth i have never heard anything that could be construed as a anti Jewish, it doesn't exist. By the same token i could walk into any boozer and without fail you'd hear the words paki, ragheads, asylum seekers etc etc. The EE board is seemingly full of racists and racism apologists piously lecturing the world on the evils of racism (to be fair, they would know I suppose  ) Ken is a fuckwit. I've no idea of the factual (in)accuracy of what he said. The Regular EE Keyboard Battalion wouldn't have the humility to admit this but I'll freely accept I'm not an expert on the history of Zionism. If it was inaccurate then clearly more should be done and the Labour Party should be ashamed of itself. But quite why the likes of Todger and fraise (and even carps on previous occasions ) feel they have a right to moral outrage is unfathomable. The very mob which advocates using Nazi tactics on Muslims. Anyone would think they're just amoral opportunists.... |
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Post by felonious on Apr 5, 2017 12:27:39 GMT
Well worth a listen to Ken defending on Newsnight what he actually said halfway down this BBC article. He was guilty of talking about a subject that you cannot discuss in modern day Britain.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39499640
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 5, 2017 12:28:51 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 5, 2017 12:30:36 GMT
Tom Watson has a rather unique view of morality, very proactive on News international phone hacking, not a dickie bird said on daily mirror hacking by the once daily mirror columnist Tom Watson. Very vocal on racism yet happily took 500k donation from Max Moseley. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 5, 2017 12:36:07 GMT
Tom Watson has a rather unique view of morality, very proactive on News international phone hacking, not a dickie bird said on daily mirror hacking by the once daily mirror columnist Tom Watson. Very vocal on racism yet happily took 500k donation from Max Moseley. He's an enigma wrapped in a pork pie. |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 5, 2017 12:36:22 GMT
What's he actually said that was wrong? Full of cunts who couldn't give a fuck about racism. The UK doesn't have a problem with anti Semitism. Apart from linking Jews to wealth i have never heard anything that could be construed as a anti Jewish, it doesn't exist. By the same token i could walk into any boozer and without fail you'd hear the words paki, ragheads, asylum seekers etc etc. Well apart from suggesting Hitler who killed millions of Jews supported zionism nothing wrong at all - it's strange how people feel confident to tell jewish people what they should find anti-semitic or not, just betting you wouldn't be as confident telling a non-white person what they should find racist or not. I suggest you look at the number of anti semitic attacks in the UK, the figures tell a different story to you anecdotal evidence. |
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Post by stockportstokie on Apr 5, 2017 12:51:08 GMT
What's he actually said that was wrong? Full of cunts who couldn't give a fuck about racism. The UK doesn't have a problem with anti Semitism. Apart from linking Jews to wealth i have never heard anything that could be construed as a anti Jewish, it doesn't exist. By the same token i could walk into any boozer and without fail you'd hear the words paki, ragheads, asylum seekers etc etc. Well apart from suggesting Hitler who killed millions of Jews supported zionism nothing wrong at all - it's strange how people feel confident to tell jewish people what they should find anti-semitic or not, just betting you wouldn't be as confident telling a non-white person what they should find racist or not. I suggest you look at the number of anti semitic attacks in the UK, the figures tell a different story to you anecdotal evidence. There isn't antisemitism within the UK and the figures you speak of are nothing compared non white incidents. I'd be confident in telling anyone they're wrong regardless of race. I myself am from Jewish heritage. Ken wasn't antisemitic and there isn't an issue within society. Your made up bollox doesn't change that reality. |
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Post by manmarking on Apr 5, 2017 12:57:58 GMT
What's he actually said that was wrong? Full of cunts who couldn't give a fuck about racism. The UK doesn't have a problem with anti Semitism. Apart from linking Jews to wealth i have never heard anything that could be construed as a anti Jewish, it doesn't exist. By the same token i could walk into any boozer and without fail you'd hear the words paki, ragheads, asylum seekers etc etc. Well apart from suggesting Hitler who killed millions of Jews supported zionism nothing wrong at all - it's strange how people feel confident to tell jewish people what they should find anti-semitic or not, just betting you wouldn't be as confident telling a non-white person what they should find racist or not. I suggest you look at the number of anti semitic attacks in the UK, the figures tell a different story to you anecdotal evidence. And yet you're allowed to lecture all and sundry on what is and isn't racist. By the by, not all Jewish people are "white", either in their appearance or in how they'd identify themselves. Yer daft racist. |
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Post by manmarking on Apr 5, 2017 12:58:44 GMT
Well apart from suggesting Hitler who killed millions of Jews supported zionism nothing wrong at all - it's strange how people feel confident to tell jewish people what they should find anti-semitic or not, just betting you wouldn't be as confident telling a non-white person what they should find racist or not. I suggest you look at the number of anti semitic attacks in the UK, the figures tell a different story to you anecdotal evidence. There isn't antisemitism within the UK and the figures you speak of are nothing compared non white incidents. I'd be confident in telling anyone they're wrong regardless of race. I myself am from Jewish heritage. Ken wasn't antisemitic and there isn't an issue within society. Your made up bollox doesn't change that reality. There is antisemitism in the UK to be fair mate. |
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Post by stockportstokie on Apr 5, 2017 13:07:49 GMT
There isn't antisemitism within the UK and the figures you speak of are nothing compared non white incidents. I'd be confident in telling anyone they're wrong regardless of race. I myself am from Jewish heritage. Ken wasn't antisemitic and there isn't an issue within society. Your made up bollox doesn't change that reality. There is antisemitism in the UK to be fair mate. I've never experienced it. I'm not just saying that for the purposes of this thread either. I could walk down the road to hear racism relating to Islam any day of the week but I've not once heard antisemitic tones in my entire life. Those influential figures create it imo. |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 5, 2017 13:16:19 GMT
Well apart from suggesting Hitler who killed millions of Jews supported zionism nothing wrong at all - it's strange how people feel confident to tell jewish people what they should find anti-semitic or not, just betting you wouldn't be as confident telling a non-white person what they should find racist or not. I suggest you look at the number of anti semitic attacks in the UK, the figures tell a different story to you anecdotal evidence. There isn't antisemitism within the UK and the figures you speak of are nothing compared non white incidents. I'd be confident in telling anyone they're wrong regardless of race. I myself am from Jewish heritage. Ken wasn't antisemitic and there isn't an issue within society. Your made up bollox doesn't change that reality. There's no antisemitism because the attacks are less than non white attacks, yeah errr ok then. I'll give you there is not an issue within wider society with anti semitism but within a certain section of society, the left there is a massive problem. |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 5, 2017 13:26:12 GMT
Well apart from suggesting Hitler who killed millions of Jews supported zionism nothing wrong at all - it's strange how people feel confident to tell jewish people what they should find anti-semitic or not, just betting you wouldn't be as confident telling a non-white person what they should find racist or not. I suggest you look at the number of anti semitic attacks in the UK, the figures tell a different story to you anecdotal evidence. And yet you're allowed to lecture all and sundry on what is and isn't racist. By the by, not all Jewish people are "white", either in their appearance or in how they'd identify themselves. Yer daft racist. Clifftard back to namecalling and strawman arguments. Show me where i've lectured anyone on being racist, i've stated something widely accepted as being anti-semitic is anti semitic. Of course people of all nationalities and skin colours can be jewish, it's a religion not a nationality, what an epically silly strawman argument even for you. |
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Post by manmarking on Apr 5, 2017 13:52:39 GMT
And yet you're allowed to lecture all and sundry on what is and isn't racist. By the by, not all Jewish people are "white", either in their appearance or in how they'd identify themselves. Yer daft racist. Clifftard back to namecalling and strawman arguments. Show me where i've lectured anyone on being racist, i've stated something widely accepted as being anti-semitic is anti semitic. Of course people of all nationalities and skin colours can be jewish, it's a religion not a nationality, what an epically silly strawman argument even for you. I didn't name-call mate. I called you a racist because you said something racist. I just stated a fact. Of course you name-called but then you're allowed to. Goes without saying, doesn't it Also, nice strawman but I'm not the one who brought skin colour into it; you did. You clearly differentiated between Jewish people and "non-white" ones when, as you now admit, there may be no difference in many cases. At least you admit you were wrong  |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 5, 2017 16:36:44 GMT
Clifftard back to namecalling and strawman arguments. Show me where i've lectured anyone on being racist, i've stated something widely accepted as being anti-semitic is anti semitic. Of course people of all nationalities and skin colours can be jewish, it's a religion not a nationality, what an epically silly strawman argument even for you. I didn't name-call mate. I called you a racist because you said something racist. I just stated a fact. Of course you name-called but then you're allowed to. Goes without saying, doesn't it Also, nice strawman but I'm not the one who brought skin colour into it; you did. You clearly differentiated between Jewish people and "non-white" ones when, as you now admit, there may be no difference in many cases. At least you admit you were wrong Smiley faces don't make your juvenile arguments smarter or funny. Do you understand that anti-semitism just like islamophobia is prejudice \ racism based solely on a person's religion? Anti semitism seems to be the only type of racism that people who are not from the group being abused feel confident to tell those being abused what they should find offensive \ racist, I don't see it with other types of racism towards non-white people like islamophobia or racism towards black people. So you're not right surprise, surprise and you clearly have no idea (generally and specifically) of what racism actually is. |
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Post by boothenboy75 on Apr 5, 2017 19:14:20 GMT
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 6, 2017 8:04:32 GMT
London Mayor employees having a party for Ken's 55th birthday |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 6, 2017 8:47:21 GMT
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 6, 2017 10:36:19 GMT
So you're seeking to defend Livingstone, just for context he was defending another Labour MP who had liked a post suggesting the whole start of Israel should be forcibly relocated, that MP has apoligised and admitted it was anti-semitic, something Ken still denies, as for his point being correct, it's bollocks and if you want to propogate the idea it is correct you aren't much better than him. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Apr 6, 2017 10:42:50 GMT
So you're seeking to defend Livingstone, just for context he was defending another Labour MP who had liked a post suggesting the whole start of Israel should be forcibly relocated, that MP has apoligised and admitted it was anti-semitic, something Ken still denies, as for his point being correct, it's bollocks and if you want to propogate the idea it is correct you aren't much better than him. Lies and distortion, simple. We all know what this is really about. |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 6, 2017 10:54:44 GMT
So you're seeking to defend Livingstone, just for context he was defending another Labour MP who had liked a post suggesting the whole start of Israel should be forcibly relocated, that MP has apoligised and admitted it was anti-semitic, something Ken still denies, as for his point being correct, it's bollocks and if you want to propogate the idea it is correct you aren't much better than him. Lies and distortion, simple. We all know what this is really about. Yes it's about soft twats defending anti-semitism. What dear old Ken is saying is the same as saying american slaves had good working conditions because they got free housing and food, do you reckon Labour would just suspend an MP for two years who said that? |
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Post by manmarking on Apr 7, 2017 12:39:39 GMT
I didn't name-call mate. I called you a racist because you said something racist. I just stated a fact. Of course you name-called but then you're allowed to. Goes without saying, doesn't it Also, nice strawman but I'm not the one who brought skin colour into it; you did. You clearly differentiated between Jewish people and "non-white" ones when, as you now admit, there may be no difference in many cases. At least you admit you were wrong Smiley faces don't make your juvenile arguments smarter or funny. Do you understand that anti-semitism just like islamophobia is prejudice \ racism based solely on a person's religion? Anti semitism seems to be the only type of racism that people who are not from the group being abused feel confident to tell those being abused what they should find offensive \ racist, I don't see it with other types of racism towards non-white people like islamophobia or racism towards black people. So you're not right surprise, surprise and you clearly have no idea (generally and specifically) of what racism actually is. Being lectured on racism by someone who doesn't understand racism yet is lecturing people that they're not allowed to lecture people on racism. Lol. Well it would be, if it wasn't so absurd. |
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Post by felonious on Mar 27, 2018 15:18:08 GMT
What's Ken up to these days?
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