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Post by followyoudown on Apr 3, 2017 7:44:17 GMT
Most importantly lets hope the young lad attacked fully recovers and it already seems most of the cowardly scum who attacked him have been arrested or will be very shortly. Straight away I notice this was linked to Brexit by some, SWP were organising a stand up to racism rally, Dianne Abbott was straight on the megaphone blaming the Tory government for failing to crack down on hate crime, well.............. for some reason this is now being reported only as a suspected hate crime and Diane and the SWP have gone awfully quiet  |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 3, 2017 8:01:59 GMT
Diane Abbott hasn't gone quiet - she has retweeted the link to that exact story a couple of hours ago.
I can't see much difference in how it's being reported now from a couple of days ago - I've only checked the Guardian and the Independent, but both of them all along have either the term hate crime in quotes or called it a suspected hate crime. The BBC have only mentioned hate crime when it's been mentioned by the police or Sadiq Khan.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 3, 2017 8:14:19 GMT
Diane Abbott hasn't gone quiet - she has retweeted the link to that exact story a couple of hours ago. I can't see much difference in how it's being reported now from a couple of days ago - I've only checked the Guardian and the Independent, but both of them all along have either the term hate crime in quotes or called it a suspected hate crime. The BBC have only mentioned hate crime when it's been mentioned by the police or Sadiq Khan. A retweet after her usual megaphone outrage, has she corrected where she linked it to brexit yet? It's a gang attack by the look of it and now it doesn't suit the agenda the politicisation of this cowardly attack will be quietly dropped. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Apr 3, 2017 8:51:05 GMT
Make an example of them.........shoot em
Sends out a clear message
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Post by Skankmonkey on Apr 3, 2017 9:22:03 GMT
Scum.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 3, 2017 9:30:56 GMT
Diane Abbott hasn't gone quiet - she has retweeted the link to that exact story a couple of hours ago. I can't see much difference in how it's being reported now from a couple of days ago - I've only checked the Guardian and the Independent, but both of them all along have either the term hate crime in quotes or called it a suspected hate crime. The BBC have only mentioned hate crime when it's been mentioned by the police or Sadiq Khan. A retweet after her usual megaphone outrage, has she corrected where she linked it to brexit yet? It's a gang attack by the look of it and now it doesn't suit the agenda the politicisation of this cowardly attack will be quietly dropped. Like it or not, people are going to link some issues to Brexit - sometimes correctly, sometimes incorrectly. It's the equivalent of people linking all our problems to the EU - sometimes correctly, sometimes incorrectly - before the referendum. |
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Post by Skankmonkey on Apr 3, 2017 9:51:59 GMT
Not sure whether any connection to Brexit, who said or tweeted what etc. etc. is really the issue is it.
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Post by StokieNath on Apr 3, 2017 10:29:41 GMT
Bring back national service.
The only way you can discipline todays youth.
Hopefully, the victim names and shames them so when they go to the YO they'll get a good kicking.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 3, 2017 11:20:12 GMT
A retweet after her usual megaphone outrage, has she corrected where she linked it to brexit yet? It's a gang attack by the look of it and now it doesn't suit the agenda the politicisation of this cowardly attack will be quietly dropped. Like it or not, people are going to link some issues to Brexit - sometimes correctly, sometimes incorrectly. It's the equivalent of people linking all our problems to the EU - sometimes correctly, sometimes incorrectly - before the referendum. Nonsense. All smoke and mirrors. Nobody was linking South London gang assaults with the fragile condition of the Eurozone economies before the Referendum. They weren't even linking South London gang assaults with South Italian gang assaults. We just called a spade a shovel and that was that. The only 'spin' I can see is why names and images weren't released sooner. Why, from the get-go was this reported by ALL media outlets as a "teenager asylum seeker" being attacked? Why use 'asylum seeker' and 'hate crime' if it's not spinning it in racial terms? Why try and politicise it instead of just saying we're looking for local black gang members? Chief Superintendent Jeff Boothe, Croydon's borough commander, called it a "savage attack". Boothe went on to say "This is not Croydon, Croydon is a very diverse community - they celebrate their diversity and as recently as Thursday at the town hall we had a number of leaders from different faith groups saying we are all united and stand together."Why bring Faith Leaders and "diverse community" into the conversation instead of just saying we're looking for local black gang members? |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 3, 2017 11:29:05 GMT
Like it or not, people are going to link some issues to Brexit - sometimes correctly, sometimes incorrectly. It's the equivalent of people linking all our problems to the EU - sometimes correctly, sometimes incorrectly - before the referendum. Nonsense. All smoke and mirrors. Nobody was linking South London gang assaults with the fragile condition of the Eurozone economies before the Referendum. They weren't even linking South London gang assaults with South Italian gang assaults. We just called a spade a shovel and that was that. The only 'spin' I can see is why names and images weren't released sooner. Why, from the get-go was this reported by ALL media outlets as a "teenager asylum seeker" being attacked? Why use 'asylum seeker' and 'hate crime' if it's not spinning it in racial terms? Why try and politicise it instead of just saying we're looking for local black gang members? Chief Superintendent Jeff Boothe, Croydon's borough commander, called it a "savage attack". Boothe went on to say "This is not Croydon, Croydon is a very diverse community - they celebrate their diversity and as recently as Thursday at the town hall we had a number of leaders from different faith groups saying we are all united and stand together."Why bring Faith Leaders and "diverse community" into the conversation instead of just saying we're looking for local black gang members? Because the victim was a teenager, an asylum seeker, and he was attacked. Why use 'asylum seeker' and 'hate crime' if it's not spinning it in racial terms?Because the victim was attacked specifically because he was an asylum seeker, and the police's statement said it was a "suspected hate crime". Why try and politicise it instead of just saying we're looking for local black gang members?That is what they've done today in releasing photos of the people that are wanted - although not sure they've mentioned they are in a gang (I've not seen it mentioned that they were in a gang, but not read much news today). |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 3, 2017 12:06:21 GMT
Why, from the get-go was this reported by ALL media outlets as a "teenager asylum seeker" being attacked? Because the victim was a teenager, an asylum seeker, and he was attacked. Why use 'asylum seeker' and 'hate crime' if it's not spinning it in racial terms?Because the victim was attacked specifically because he was an asylum seeker, and the police's statement said it was a "suspected hate crime". Why try and politicise it instead of just saying we're looking for local black gang members?That is what they've done today in releasing photos of the people that are wanted - although not sure they've mentioned they are in a gang (I've not seen it mentioned that they were in a gang, but not read much news today). My question was, why use 'asylum seeker' and 'hate crime' before any facts are known if it's not spinning it in racial terms? He could have also been a Chelsea fan but they didn't report that. This idea that he was only attacked because he was an asylum seeker isn't fact. It could have been two old people or two white woman or two Japanese tourists or two homeless people. Maybe the scumbags coming out of the pub were just looking for a fight with anyone. The fact that the media used "suspected" or the BBC was only quoting Khan or the Police makes no difference. The story has been linked to a certain narrative from the beginning. Why did the Chief Superintendent even mention Faith Leaders meeting in a local Town Hall? What's that got to do with anything. And gang as in a group of individuals known to each other 'ganging' up on someone. Or did you immediately start thinking Bloods and Crips because they were black? Do you ever get past the headlines? Or more specifically the headlines that you agree with? |
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Post by manmarking on Apr 3, 2017 12:18:09 GMT
Why, from the get-go was this reported by ALL media outlets as a "teenager asylum seeker" being attacked? Because the victim was a teenager, an asylum seeker, and he was attacked. Why use 'asylum seeker' and 'hate crime' if it's not spinning it in racial terms?Because the victim was attacked specifically because he was an asylum seeker, and the police's statement said it was a "suspected hate crime". Why try and politicise it instead of just saying we're looking for local black gang members?That is what they've done today in releasing photos of the people that are wanted - although not sure they've mentioned they are in a gang (I've not seen it mentioned that they were in a gang, but not read much news today). Todger enjoys getting himself worked up at abstract things like rivers of blood and how we can't call spades spades anymore. It gives him something to do. It's why he's given to such hyperbole and abject bollocks  You might also ask him why he's used deliberately inflammatory language like "black gangs" when he hasn't the faintest idea who's been arrested/charged, and when at least one suspect looks suspiciously like a white man (fake news no doubt) To be fair to him, if the Goat pub was still allowed to erect "No blacks, no dogs, no Irish" signs, then at least some of those responsible wouldn't have been able to get tanked up and this might not have happened. We could've all been merrily getting on with the important business of hating the asylum seeker for coming over here and stealing our jobs and our benefits. As it is, the bastard is now stealing our national sympathy too. Fucking snowflakes/SJWs/Remoaners/lefties/socialists/do-gooders etc etc etc......  |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 3, 2017 12:19:57 GMT
Why, from the get-go was this reported by ALL media outlets as a "teenager asylum seeker" being attacked? Because the victim was a teenager, an asylum seeker, and he was attacked. Why use 'asylum seeker' and 'hate crime' if it's not spinning it in racial terms?Because the victim was attacked specifically because he was an asylum seeker, and the police's statement said it was a "suspected hate crime". Why try and politicise it instead of just saying we're looking for local black gang members?That is what they've done today in releasing photos of the people that are wanted - although not sure they've mentioned they are in a gang (I've not seen it mentioned that they were in a gang, but not read much news today). My question was, why use 'asylum seeker' and 'hate crime' before any facts are known if it's not spinning it in racial terms? He could have also been a Chelsea fan but they didn't report that. This idea that he was only attacked because he was an asylum seeker isn't fact. It could have been two old people or two white woman or two Japanese tourists or two homeless people. Maybe the scumbags coming out of the pub were just looking for a fight with anyone. The fact that the media used "suspected" or the BBC was only quoting Khan or the Police makes no difference. The story has been linked to a certain narrative from the beginning. Why did the Chief Superintendent even mention Faith Leaders meeting in a local Town Hall? What's that got to do with anything. And gang as in a group of individuals known to each other 'ganging' up on someone. Or did you immediately start thinking Bloods and Crips because they were black? Do you ever get past the headlines? Or more specifically the headlines that you agree with? For the police to describe it as a "hate crime" it must be an attack "which the victim, or anyone else, thinks is based on someones prejudice towards them because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, disability or because they are transgender.". Now presumably something in this attack has been said or done that suggests he was attacked because he was an asylum seeker. Going from that, the police release information that is it is a suspected hate crime and the media report it as such. It may still be incorrect of course, but then it will be the fault of the police for reporting it as a hate crime and not the grand media conspiracy that it's being made out to be. |
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Post by dexta on Apr 3, 2017 12:37:30 GMT
If it was an english teenager who had taken an hiding of so called immigrants would it be all over the news
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Post by crapslinger on Apr 3, 2017 14:16:46 GMT
If it was an english teenager who had taken an hiding of so called immigrants would it be all over the news Don't be silly. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 14:35:21 GMT
I'm sure crapslingers post on the subject would have been considerably longer had it been the other way around too. As for RogerJones I can't believe what I am reading...the mind boggles. So, have you just recently become a hypocrite or were you born that way?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 3, 2017 14:55:04 GMT
I'm sure crapslingers post on the subject would have been considerably longer had it been the other way around too. As for RogerJones I can't believe what I am reading...the mind boggles. So, have you just recently become a hypocrite or were you born that way? Ha, ha it seems it doesn't take much to boggle your mind. |
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Post by Boothen on Apr 5, 2017 17:22:02 GMT
I notice how the white-hating liberal mainstream media and certain race-baiting politicians are ignoring this story now the perpetrators have turned out to mainly be blacks and 'wigga' gang members with absolutely zero affiliation with any right-wing organisations. So, this must be that multi-cultural and ethnic diversity that they're always bleating on about?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 5, 2017 21:46:33 GMT
I notice how the white-hating liberal mainstream media and certain race-baiting politicians are ignoring this story now the perpetrators have turned out to mainly be blacks and 'wigga' gang members with absolutely zero affiliation with any right-wing organisations. So, this must be that multi-cultural and ethnic diversity that they're always bleating on about? My money is that we'll have to wait until they're all in court next month to find out they were just a pissed up gang of local scumbags who still would have beaten him up if he'd told them he was a train spotter. Until then we're just racist, right wing apologists, apparently. Oh, and Brexit's to blame. |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 5, 2017 21:51:25 GMT
So now the media is not reporting enough about an attack on an asylum seekers? It was a outrage when it was big news, and now it's an outrage that it's not news.
This story is the gift that keeps on giving for some.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 22:35:27 GMT
So now the media is not reporting enough about an attack on an asylum seekers? It was a outrage when it was big news, and now it's an outrage that it's not news. This story is the gift that keeps on giving for some. I think the point is the media are quick to jump on this hateful racist attack on an asylum seeker, hatred has increased since brexit story, and then when they are wrong they don't correct their view. The hate is spread by the media and their urge to relate all negative stories to brexit. They are misinforming the public ànd stirring the pot. The anger within this country is quite bad at the moment and the media should try to be more careful with their reports and should really do more research. The seed has already been planted now so the media or whoever found this story may have possibly achieved their intention. The papers, media, politicians, celebrities, businesswomen and men are all guilty of having their own agendas and it is really difficult for the public to know what and who to believe. It was a sick attack but the details which were so clear in the reports immediately afterwards now don't seem to be so clear. It just looks like an opportunists story which has backfired, but it will still be related to brexit. So it's not about whether the media have posted enough, but have they posted the truth. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 5, 2017 23:23:59 GMT
As shocking as the attack was here's a bit of perspective....... What is a hate crime and how many are there each month in Croydon? - Croydon Advertiser "In January alone there were 51 hate crimes recorded in Croydon." "Of the reported hate crimes in Croydon, 45 of the incidents were religious or racial hate crimes, four were homophobic attacks and two were Islamophobic crimes." "Crime statistics, published by the Metropolitan Police, reveal that London had a total of 1,411 religious, sexual and racial hate crimes reported in January." How come Abbott wasn't on her megaphone for the other 50 reported incidents? Could it be because the media were salivating when they discovered the poor fella was an asylum seeker and all the virtue signalling Liberals saw a bandwagon and jumped. A sad excuse for a bit of Brexit bashing. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 5, 2017 23:35:32 GMT
How about this one...... Woman found dead in Bristol gorge 'feared deportation' after Brexit vote - The Guardian, April 5th 2017 So the story starts..... "Care worker Miriam Macarrón Arroyo, 42, told friends she was worried she would be sent back to Spain, inquest hears." It goes on to disclose that the poor woman had suffered from chronic pain illness since 2003 and struggled with depression. The court was told "Macarrón Arroyo was troubled by work problems at the time of her death. She also lacked close family ties apart from with her mother, who lived in Madrid, and had been receiving letters relating to tax arrears." The assistant coroner ruled that there was no “conclusive evidence” Macarrón Arroyo intended to take her own life. She left no suicide note. The article finishes with the number for the Samaritans and a web address for suicide.org Brexit my arse. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 5:56:19 GMT
How about this one...... Woman found dead in Bristol gorge 'feared deportation' after Brexit vote - The Guardian, April 5th 2017 So the story starts..... "Care worker Miriam Macarrón Arroyo, 42, told friends she was worried she would be sent back to Spain, inquest hears." It goes on to disclose that the poor woman had suffered from chronic pain illness since 2003 and struggled with depression. The court was told "Macarrón Arroyo was troubled by work problems at the time of her death. She also lacked close family ties apart from with her mother, who lived in Madrid, and had been receiving letters relating to tax arrears." The assistant coroner ruled that there was no “conclusive evidence” Macarrón Arroyo intended to take her own life. She left no suicide note. The article finishes with the number for the Samaritans and a web address for suicide.org Brexit my arse. Wish they'd threaten me with being sent to Spain Haven't had a good holiday for years |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 6, 2017 7:31:37 GMT
So now the media is not reporting enough about an attack on an asylum seekers? It was a outrage when it was big news, and now it's an outrage that it's not news. This story is the gift that keeps on giving for some. I think the point is the media are quick to jump on this hateful racist attack on an asylum seeker, hatred has increased since brexit story, and then when they are wrong they don't correct their view. The hate is spread by the media and their urge to relate all negative stories to brexit. They are misinforming the public ànd stirring the pot. The anger within this country is quite bad at the moment and the media should try to be more careful with their reports and should really do more research. The seed has already been planted now so the media or whoever found this story may have possibly achieved their intention. The papers, media, politicians, celebrities, businesswomen and men are all guilty of having their own agendas and it is really difficult for the public to know what and who to believe. It was a sick attack but the details which were so clear in the reports immediately afterwards now don't seem to be so clear. It just looks like an opportunists story which has backfired, but it will still be related to brexit. So it's not about whether the media have posted enough, but have they posted the truth. They haven't really reported anything wrong. It was a hateful racist attack according to the police, who are the best source in situations like these. If there proves to be little evidence of it being a racist attack, then the police will have created the false narrative (either intenionally or unintentionally). The media are always prone to exaggeration in order to sell news. The sad truth is that if the news reported stuff in a dry, accurate manner, not enough people buy/read the stuff. Not many people seemed to mind when the EU or immigration were the target of sensationalist hearsay, but now it's their beloved Brexit they don't want anything negative reported. The slow trickle of often-false stories about daft EU regulations over the past 10-15 years played such a big part in Brexit happening, I find it quite ironic that peopleare now whinging about stories being linked to Brexit. |
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Post by dutchstokie on Apr 6, 2017 13:42:21 GMT
I notice how the white-hating liberal mainstream media and certain race-baiting politicians are ignoring this story now the perpetrators have turned out to mainly be blacks and 'wigga' gang members with absolutely zero affiliation with any right-wing organisations. So, this must be that multi-cultural and ethnic diversity that they're always bleating on about? Yeah but don't forget...... black lives matter Apparently.....🙄 |
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 6, 2017 14:17:31 GMT
As shocking as the attack was here's a bit of perspective....... What is a hate crime and how many are there each month in Croydon? - Croydon Advertiser "In January alone there were 51 hate crimes recorded in Croydon." "Of the reported hate crimes in Croydon, 45 of the incidents were religious or racial hate crimes, four were homophobic attacks and two were Islamophobic crimes." "Crime statistics, published by the Metropolitan Police, reveal that London had a total of 1,411 religious, sexual and racial hate crimes reported in January." How come Abbott wasn't on her megaphone for the other 50 reported incidents? Could it be because the media were salivating when they discovered the poor fella was an asylum seeker and all the virtue signalling Liberals saw a bandwagon and jumped. A sad excuse for a bit of Brexit bashing. This is a bit chilling regarding hate crime and how it seems it can be misused as another aside on Wednesday last week a 23 year old lad was stabbed in Croydon he sadly died two days ago, you won't know his name he didn't rate a mention from any politician. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 17:00:21 GMT
I think the point is the media are quick to jump on this hateful racist attack on an asylum seeker, hatred has increased since brexit story, and then when they are wrong they don't correct their view. The hate is spread by the media and their urge to relate all negative stories to brexit. They are misinforming the public ànd stirring the pot. The anger within this country is quite bad at the moment and the media should try to be more careful with their reports and should really do more research. The seed has already been planted now so the media or whoever found this story may have possibly achieved their intention. The papers, media, politicians, celebrities, businesswomen and men are all guilty of having their own agendas and it is really difficult for the public to know what and who to believe. It was a sick attack but the details which were so clear in the reports immediately afterwards now don't seem to be so clear. It just looks like an opportunists story which has backfired, but it will still be related to brexit. So it's not about whether the media have posted enough, but have they posted the truth. They haven't really reported anything wrong. It was a hateful racist attack according to the police, who are the best source in situations like these. If there proves to be little evidence of it being a racist attack, then the police will have created the false narrative (either intenionally or unintentionally). The media are always prone to exaggeration in order to sell news. The sad truth is that if the news reported stuff in a dry, accurate manner, not enough people buy/read the stuff. Not many people seemed to mind when the EU or immigration were the target of sensationalist hearsay, but now it's their beloved Brexit they don't want anything negative reported. The slow trickle of often-false stories about daft EU regulations over the past 10-15 years played such a big part in Brexit happening, I find it quite ironic that peopleare now whinging about stories being linked to Brexit. Nearly every negative story is related to brexit, even an hardline remainer should realise that most of it is bullshit. It goes both ways though and there are plenty of stories about the EU which are bullshit too. TV broadcasting companies seem to be more pro remain though and the newspapers are more evenly split. They all seem to have agenda's and all feeding fake news. |
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Apr 9, 2017 10:33:54 GMT
Can't do the linky thing for some reason this morning but here's an article from FT.com
Savage attack on Kurdish refugee divides Croydon
A dozen or so people wearing orange wristbands and carrying ‘Refugee Welcome’ signs they had borrowed from Amnesty International gathered at midday on Thursday outside the Goat pub on the edge of Croydon’s ragged Shrublands housing estate. They were there to show support for a 17-year-old Kurdish-Iranian boy, Reker Ahmed, who was nearly beaten to death there six days earlier. The group, mostly women, sang a song and then held a moment of silence. Shrublands residents — many wearing tracksuits, some drinking — glared at the outsiders but kept their distance. The incessant revving of a motorbike cut across the melody.
Finally, a local woman entering one of the convenience stores next to the Goat demanded to know why there was a vigil when “no one even died”. “Just makes things worse!” she fumed.
Depending on who you ask, the attack against Mr Ahmed was a fight over a cigarette that spun out of control; a case of mob violence fuelled by alcohol; or a savage hate crime in a Britain made increasingly xenophobic by a Brexit campaign that has inflamed anger against foreigners. Or some combination of the three.
It has sent ripples of fear through Croydon’s Kurdish community, according to Abdul Abdul Ahi, who — like Mr Ahmed — came to the UK from Iran when he was 17, and saw him on occasion at Middle East Shisha, a ramshackle café featuring an oversized photograph of ancient Erbil. “It’s not a surprise,” he said of the attack. “It’s been all right for the last two years. But slowly, slowly, I see more and more things.” In 2015 Mr Ahi was approached by men asking for money at the East Croydon train station, he said. Soon he was surrounded and suffered a broken jaw and black eyes. “English people see so many migrants coming to Croydon and they don’t like it,” he said.
Police have so far arrested 16 people — all locals, ranging in age from 15 to 24 — for crimes including violent disorder and racially-aggravated grievous bodily harm. They believe up to 30 people were involved. “It’s the mob!” said Tony Newman, the Labour leader of Croydon council, expressing disgust at the assault. “We are simply not having this in Croydon,” he insisted.
A suburb 10 miles south of London, Croydon has been a perennial butt of jokes and an example of postwar development gone wrong. Its centre was torched during the capital’s riots in 2011. Today it is trying to reinvent itself with a multibillion pound redevelopment that will build thousands of new apartments and a shopping centre.
Less well known is that Croydon is a gateway for refugees because the headquarters of the Home Office’s visa and immigration department is just off its high street. One resident described the town as “saturated” with immigrants. The Kurds, who settled in north London in the 1980s and 1990s, began flocking to Croydon in 2000 after the first Gulf war. At any given time, the town hosts 400 or more unaccompanied minors like Mr Ahmed, many fleeing the war in Syria and oppression in their homelands. Described by many as a shy boy, Mr Ahmed only arrived in the UK a few months ago and spoke little English. He was with two friends at a bus stop at the edge of the Shrublands around 11:40pm on Friday night. He went to buy cigarettes at the Chassi Mini Market next to the Goat, according to a person who has visited him in hospital.
Several locals say someone asked him for a cigarette and Mr Ahmed turned him down. According to the Croydon police, “suspects asked the victim where he was from and when they established that he was an asylum seeker they chased him and launched a brutal attack.” Reinforcements joined from the area of the pub. Mr Ahmed’s friends managed to escape but he suffered a fractured spine and eye socket and bleeding on the brain. “We should treat it as a mob mentality — criminal, violent — but not racist,” said Ayar Ata, one of the Kurds who had gathered in front of the Goat on Wednesday to meet politicians, including Sajid Javid, the government’s communities’ secretary. A woman beside him wearing a headscarf nodded in agreement.
Zinar Dememi drew a line from Croydon to Brexit. “The Brexit campaign, I think, most certainly did have a part in this because of the way it was conducted: anti-refugees and anti-foreigners,” Mr Dememi said. “Sometimes we say things and don’t know the consequences.”
In the three months that followed the June Brexit vote, reports of hate crimes rose to record levels across England and Wales, although they have since eased. Whether an incident is classed as a hate crime depends largely on the victim’s perception, and whether they believe their race or ethnicity played a role. Proving it in court, though, can be far more difficult, said Stevie-Jade Hardy, a criminologist at Leicester University’s Centre for Hate Studies, who has written extensively on the subject. But she added that “the incident that happened in Croydon cannot be detached from the social, political and cultural context that we are currently in”.
That “context” looks grim from the Shrublands, a relic from a previous era of urban development that exists as a sort of island at the edge of Croydon. “It’s always been a dumping place for the council,” one resident said, noting that many of its flats were plagued by damp and neglect. Another person described it as a place where an outsider had to be on their toes.
On a recent morning, its residents — until recently predominantly white, but now a variety of races and ethnicities — were milling around the few discount shops next to the Goat, bristling at the outside attention. Police are still searching for suspects. “Everyone thinks everyone down here is a frigging racist now!” complained Anton Simpson, 34, sipping a beer. “It was about a cigarette — not an asylum seeker.” His own father was Syrian, Mr Simpson noted, and he would not tolerate such an attack. He blamed it instead on young men and excessive drinking. Like others, Mr Simpson believed questions about where Mr Ahmed was from were misconstrued: They were not related to his ethnicity but the more pertinent matter of whether he was from Shrublands. “Everyone here knows everyone here, you know?” he explained. A young black man from Spain agreed. “This is a multicultural neighbourhood,” he said, as his Turkish friend nodded.
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Post by manmarking on Apr 11, 2017 9:58:20 GMT
I notice how the white-hating liberal mainstream media and certain race-baiting politicians are ignoring this story now the perpetrators have turned out to mainly be blacks and 'wigga' gang members with absolutely zero affiliation with any right-wing organisations. So, this must be that multi-cultural and ethnic diversity that they're always bleating on about? So most of the perpetrators were white but that didn’t fit your agenda, so you’ve simply rebranded the whites as blacks, or ‘wiggas’. Brilliant. You’d have loved this to be the work of so-called black gangs, just like Todger, wouldn’t you. Life is so much simpler when everything’s black and white innit, blud And besides, online is the only place left where a man can engage in a spot of good old-fashioned black-bashing these days. Gone are the halcyon days of the Stephen Lawrence murder, when white gangs could roam around killing blacks for lolz with impunity. Bloody PC liberal SJW do-gooder apologists! You can’t even leap to completely unfounded racially motivated assumptions about criminals’ ethnicity any more without being branded a racist. Imagine! You could always try asking the white perpetrators to black up like a great flock of manslaughtering minstrels, mate. It might make you look a bit less like a fuckwit |
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