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Post by bathstoke on Mar 24, 2017 15:02:12 GMT
One of your problems appears to be your need to generalise a whole swathe of people based on a few examples. I have a couple of Muslim families in my street, one of the families my youngest is best friends with their youngest and the picture you paint is as far removed from the truth as you could get. My experience is that when you speak to them, like in most walks of life there are some nice, some not so nice and some I wouldn't want to associate with for various reasons. But mainly decent people just trying to work hard for their families like most of society. That's not liberal PC crap it's just treating people as you find them, engaging with them at the school gates or in the queue for an ice cream in the park. If you haven't tried it you should.... I used to work with a chap who was very, very anti racist but after years of living amongst them it changed his view of them. He ended up emigrating! I suppose emigration is the only option if you live in Pakistan!
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Post by Northy on Mar 24, 2017 15:59:52 GMT
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Post by bathstoke on Mar 24, 2017 16:12:52 GMT
Nowt wrong with welders. Hey Carps...Can you also dance like the bird in this video, though gotta admit, she is a shit welder, way too much oxygen, look at her flux flow... You've been living in Thai for so long, you've developed a taste for it
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 24, 2017 20:59:08 GMT
I see Birmingham figures highly in the associated arrests since this scum bag died, I wonder why that is ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2017 22:00:52 GMT
Nowt wrong with welders. Hey Carps...Can you also dance like the bird in this video, though gotta admit, she is a shit welder, way too much oxygen, look at her flux flow... You've been living in Thai for so long, you've developed a taste for it It's only gay if you push back...Apparently...So they say...
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Post by Mendicant on Mar 24, 2017 22:03:17 GMT
You've been living in Thai for so long, you've developed a taste for it It's only gay if you push back...Apparently...So they say... Phew, that's a relief...!
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Post by samba :) on Mar 24, 2017 22:13:13 GMT
if suicide is forbidden under islamic scripture, but committing suicide whilst killing "the enemy" is permissible, whats a depressed suicidal muslim to do ? maybe the koran needs updating to say "it;s ok to kill yourself, just don't kill anyone else whilst you're at it" The problem with that is that we can't criticise Islam or it's teachings, if we manage to avoid the suicide bombers then the SJW's will get us. There are a small (but hopefully growing) number of very, VERY brave young men & women who're literally putting their lives on the line trying to bring about reform in Saudi Arabia & Iran. An example are the very brave young women walking around without a hijab/burka covering them up (How ironic that they're risking their lives by not wearing it, but in the western world our 'tolerant, progressive liberals' are now using the hijab as a symbol of empowerment) I saw a post off someone this morning actually, let me see if I can find it... Meanwhile in progressive, tolerant, liberal Canada... the word speechless comes to mind at the tweet
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Post by scfcwebby on Mar 25, 2017 7:26:21 GMT
if suicide is forbidden under islamic scripture, but committing suicide whilst killing "the enemy" is permissible, whats a depressed suicidal muslim to do ? maybe the koran needs updating to say "it;s ok to kill yourself, just don't kill anyone else whilst you're at it" The problem with that is that we can't criticise Islam or it's teachings, if we manage to avoid the suicide bombers then the SJW's will get us. There are a small (but hopefully growing) number of very, VERY brave young men & women who're literally putting their lives on the line trying to bring about reform in Saudi Arabia & Iran. An example are the very brave young women walking around without a hijab/burka covering them up (How ironic that they're risking their lives by not wearing it, but in the western world our 'tolerant, progressive liberals' are now using the hijab as a symbol of empowerment) I saw a post off someone this morning actually, let me see if I can find it... Meanwhile in progressive, tolerant, liberal Canada... What has Jon Walters got to do with anything?
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Mar 25, 2017 8:08:50 GMT
We have opened our doors to the scum of the earth, our spineless politicians and liberal left PC SJW's have an awful lot to answer for will they have the balls to admit what a fuck up they have made of our society not a feckin chance, the usual apologists are pretty much non existent on this thread I wonder why What the fuck has SJW got to do with it? ???
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 25, 2017 9:20:25 GMT
two words
SAUDI ARABIA
do the research its the same old story everytime?
Who is behind the conversions going in our prisons, who is sponsoring radicalisation with vast sums of money.
and who is the UK's closest ally and trading partner in the Middle East = Guess who!!!
so what is our Government doing about it = Sweet FA!!!!!
they are happy clappy when it comes to bombing Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan etc etc.
Until they start to address the real root of the problem....will keep on happening
Total hypocrisy from our Government, we are also complicit. We are in effect supporting the sponsors of terrorism (Not for the first time either)
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Post by Billy the kid on Mar 25, 2017 9:50:00 GMT
two words SAUDI ARABIA do the research its the same old story everytime? Who is behind the conversions going in our prisons, who is sponsoring radicalisation with vast sums of money. and who is the UK's closest ally and trading partner in the Middle East = Guess who!!! so what is our Government doing about it = Sweet FA!!!!! they are happy clappy when it comes to bombing Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan etc etc. Until they start to address the real root of the problem....will keep on happening Total hypocrisy from our Government, we are also complicit. We are in effect supporting the sponsors of terrorism (Not for the first time either) Although much of what you say is bang on, it would suit no purpose by the British government to go after the Saudis. Call me cynical if you like, but having a constant "foe" is really hand y for pushing laws through such as the stop and search or the snoopers charter. In a way I see it as "controlled enemy"
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Post by serpico on Mar 25, 2017 10:01:56 GMT
reading about this guys history it seems, like many who are attracted to isis, he just wanted to find an excuse for his blood lust.
The profile of these isis/isis inspired attackers are all the same going back to the charlie hebdo attack, which i think was the first ISIS/ISIS inspired attack in the west ?
- history of violence IE arrests for GBH, domestic violence - History of heavy substance abuse - Relationship problems - Sketchy employment history - Not particularly devout, has little actual understanding of Islamic scriptures/laws (apparently this is something isis looks for in a recruit, i wonder why ?)
In a weird way this might actually be a good sign, it shows that isis and islamic terror groups aren't attracting real western fundamentalist muslims anymore, they're recruiting from a pool of losers and thugs who see isis as an attractive option.
I think when people look at the history of islamic terror they'll see it changed it's face at around the time Al Zaqauwi (often cited as isis' founding father) came to prominence in Iraq, he was the guy who really started to take things to new sadistic levels, so much so that even al quada leaders distanced themselves from him and wrote letters to him telling him to quit with the graphic beheading videos as it was putting muslims off joining them, it now looks like isis is just more interested in being a sadistic death cult than an actual terror organisation, when you look back at Bin laden, he listed his actual grievances, many of which the muslim world sympathised with, not that this can justify his actions, but in terms of recruitment, isis will struggle if they carry on with nihilistic attacks like the one in westminster, they could end up being their own worst enemy by using such overtly brutal methods and using losers to carry them out. This is why they need the US to have a belligerent foreign policy, they need the great satan otherwise their cause fizzles out, this is why we need to adopt a non interventionist policy, the last 16 years of intervention has poured petrol onto the fire, it's fuelled the jihadis, we gifted them an entire training ground in Iraq when we knocked out saddam, we created a kind of petri dish for terrorism and a mutated version of al quada has crawled from it.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 25, 2017 10:12:33 GMT
two words SAUDI ARABIA do the research its the same old story everytime? Who is behind the conversions going in our prisons, who is sponsoring radicalisation with vast sums of money. and who is the UK's closest ally and trading partner in the Middle East = Guess who!!! so what is our Government doing about it = Sweet FA!!!!! they are happy clappy when it comes to bombing Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan etc etc. Until they start to address the real root of the problem....will keep on happening Total hypocrisy from our Government, we are also complicit. We are in effect supporting the sponsors of terrorism (Not for the first time either) Although much of what you say is bang on, it would suit no purpose by the British government to go after the Saudis. Call me cynical if you like, but having a constant "foe" is really hand y for pushing laws through such as the stop and search or the snoopers charter. In a way I see it as "controlled enemy" They are not controlled though. They control terrorism and we roll over. Everyone knows it. If anyone mentions the word democracy again I'll scream. Its a joke. This aint no democracy. What kind of democracy allows a dictatorship free rein when it comes to sponsoring violence, corruption and terror on its own door step and then conveniently looks the other way just cause they have the cash!
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 25, 2017 10:14:15 GMT
reading about this guys history it seems, like many who are attracted to isis, he just wanted to find an excuse for his blood lust. The profile of these isis/isis inspired attackers are all the same going back to the charlie hebdo attack, which i think was the first ISIS/ISIS inspired attack in the west ? - history of violence IE arrests for GBH, domestic violence - History of heavy substance abuse - Relationship problems - Sketchy employment history - Not particularly devout, has little actual understanding of Islamic scriptures/laws (apparently this is something isis looks for in a recruit, i wonder why ?) In a weird way this might actually be a good sign, it shows that isis and islamic terror groups aren't attracting real western fundamentalist muslims anymore, they're recruiting from a pool of losers and thugs who see isis as an attractive option. I think when people look at the history of islamic terror they'll see it changed it's face at around the time Al Zaqauwi (often cited as isis' founding father) came to prominence in Iraq, he was the guy who really started to take things to new sadistic levels, so much so that even al quada leaders distanced themselves from him and wrote letters to him telling him to quit with the graphic beheading videos as it was putting muslims off joining them, it now looks like isis is just more interested in being a sadistic death cult than an actual terror organisation, when you look back at Bin laden, he listed his actual grievances, many of which the muslim world sympathised with, not that this can justify his actions, but in terms of recruitment, isis will struggle if they carry on with nihilistic attacks like the one in westminster, they could end up being their own worst enemy by using such overtly brutal methods and using losers to carry them out. This is why they need the US to have a belligerent foreign policy, they need the great satan otherwise their cause fizzles out, this is why we need to adopt a non interventionist policy, the last 16 years of intervention has poured petrol onto the fire, it's fuelled the jihadis, we gifted them an entire training ground in Iraq when we knocked out saddam, we created a kind of petri dish for terrorism and a mutated version of al quada has crawled from it. We've been intervening in the wrong place for a start!
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Post by serpico on Mar 25, 2017 10:35:41 GMT
reading about this guys history it seems, like many who are attracted to isis, he just wanted to find an excuse for his blood lust. The profile of these isis/isis inspired attackers are all the same going back to the charlie hebdo attack, which i think was the first ISIS/ISIS inspired attack in the west ? - history of violence IE arrests for GBH, domestic violence - History of heavy substance abuse - Relationship problems - Sketchy employment history - Not particularly devout, has little actual understanding of Islamic scriptures/laws (apparently this is something isis looks for in a recruit, i wonder why ?) In a weird way this might actually be a good sign, it shows that isis and islamic terror groups aren't attracting real western fundamentalist muslims anymore, they're recruiting from a pool of losers and thugs who see isis as an attractive option. I think when people look at the history of islamic terror they'll see it changed it's face at around the time Al Zaqauwi (often cited as isis' founding father) came to prominence in Iraq, he was the guy who really started to take things to new sadistic levels, so much so that even al quada leaders distanced themselves from him and wrote letters to him telling him to quit with the graphic beheading videos as it was putting muslims off joining them, it now looks like isis is just more interested in being a sadistic death cult than an actual terror organisation, when you look back at Bin laden, he listed his actual grievances, many of which the muslim world sympathised with, not that this can justify his actions, but in terms of recruitment, isis will struggle if they carry on with nihilistic attacks like the one in westminster, they could end up being their own worst enemy by using such overtly brutal methods and using losers to carry them out. This is why they need the US to have a belligerent foreign policy, they need the great satan otherwise their cause fizzles out, this is why we need to adopt a non interventionist policy, the last 16 years of intervention has poured petrol onto the fire, it's fuelled the jihadis, we gifted them an entire training ground in Iraq when we knocked out saddam, we created a kind of petri dish for terrorism and a mutated version of al quada has crawled from it. We've been intervening in the wrong place for a start! there's no doubt the saudis have been playing nice with the terror groups, they like to keep the sunni crazies stirred up because they fear the rise of the shia in the region IE Iran and not because they want to take over the west by stealth.
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 25, 2017 10:38:04 GMT
reading about this guys history it seems, like many who are attracted to isis, he just wanted to find an excuse for his blood lust. The profile of these isis/isis inspired attackers are all the same going back to the charlie hebdo attack, which i think was the first ISIS/ISIS inspired attack in the west ? - history of violence IE arrests for GBH, domestic violence - History of heavy substance abuse - Relationship problems - Sketchy employment history - Not particularly devout, has little actual understanding of Islamic scriptures/laws (apparently this is something isis looks for in a recruit, i wonder why ?) In a weird way this might actually be a good sign, it shows that isis and islamic terror groups aren't attracting real western fundamentalist muslims anymore, they're recruiting from a pool of losers and thugs who see isis as an attractive option. I think when people look at the history of islamic terror they'll see it changed it's face at around the time Al Zaqauwi (often cited as isis' founding father) came to prominence in Iraq, he was the guy who really started to take things to new sadistic levels, so much so that even al quada leaders distanced themselves from him and wrote letters to him telling him to quit with the graphic beheading videos as it was putting muslims off joining them, it now looks like isis is just more interested in being a sadistic death cult than an actual terror organisation, when you look back at Bin laden, he listed his actual grievances, many of which the muslim world sympathised with, not that this can justify his actions, but in terms of recruitment, isis will struggle if they carry on with nihilistic attacks like the one in westminster, they could end up being their own worst enemy by using such overtly brutal methods and using losers to carry them out. This is why they need the US to have a belligerent foreign policy, they need the great satan otherwise their cause fizzles out, this is why we need to adopt a non interventionist policy, the last 16 years of intervention has poured petrol onto the fire, it's fuelled the jihadis, we gifted them an entire training ground in Iraq when we knocked out saddam, we created a kind of petri dish for terrorism and a mutated version of al quada has crawled from it. We've been intervening in the wrong place for a start! The main problem is under our noses, living amongst us we have indeed been active in the wrong place.
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 25, 2017 14:50:10 GMT
We've been intervening in the wrong place for a start! The main problem is under our noses, living amongst us we have indeed been active in the wrong place. The problem is with those who are stirring up those people under our noses. These nutters have been brainwashed.....by whom???? Saudi Arabia invest vast sums of money in training and influencing people, converting people in mosques and prisons to an ideology that is violent and anti-social. This has been going on for years and the west continues to turn a blind eye to it just because of the cash they bring. You cant have the cash and the peace. In my line of work I have many colleagues from Muslim countries and visited many of these countries too. They have been telling me this for the past 25 years. The Saudi-isatin and the Wahhabi mission sponsored by some of the most powerful people in the world. They have changed the face of Islam through their wealth, power and influence. The ones who our leaders wine and dine and do business with on a regular basis. Its not only westerners they blow up. They have many enemies.
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Post by capto on Mar 25, 2017 15:41:24 GMT
We've been intervening in the wrong place for a start! The main problem is under our noses, living amongst us we have indeed been active in the wrong place. Correct! All those with extreme views should be relentlessly hounded out of the country by any means. No excuses! Just cos you were born here doesn't mean you can stay if you're extreme reactionary. Get them all out now!
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 25, 2017 23:08:12 GMT
The main problem is under our noses, living amongst us we have indeed been active in the wrong place. Correct! All those with extreme views should be relentlessly hounded out of the country by any means. No excuses! Just cos you were born here doesn't mean you can stay if you're extreme reactionary. Get them all out now! A good start would be Katie Hopkins. Just cause she was born here, thinks she can spread hatred and terror.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 25, 2017 23:28:43 GMT
After events like this you see thousands of people claiming that "Islam is a religion of peace" and that "a small minority does not represent the majority", and they'd be right. It would be rude to tar all Muslims with the same brush. However.. Where is the aid from Muslim leaders and the Islamic community in helping to rid the cancer of their religion? Why do they sit idly by while the Western world is expected and forced by the public to take responsibility in solving this? We get no inclination that anything is being done about a group of radicals that are not only a threat to our society, but even to innocent Muslims in the East. Why don't they step in? Why don't they fucking do something? A Muslim-led crowdfunding website for victims has raised more than £7,000 within hours of being set up. Muddassar Ahmed, who witnessed Wednesday's attack, set up the website with Akeela Ahmed on Thursday morning to help victims and their families and "lessen their burden in some way". He called on "British Muslims, mosques, Imams, leaders, and groups to endorse and promote this initiative". Muslims United for London - Launch Good Crowdfunding for PC Palmer - JustGiving
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Post by manmarking on Mar 26, 2017 13:52:34 GMT
A Muslim-led crowdfunding website for victims has raised more than £7,000 within hours of being set up. Muddassar Ahmed, who witnessed Wednesday's attack, set up the website with Akeela Ahmed on Thursday morning to help victims and their families and "lessen their burden in some way". He called on "British Muslims, mosques, Imams, leaders, and groups to endorse and promote this initiative". Muslims United for London - Launch Good Crowdfunding for PC Palmer - JustGiving What's this even supposed to prove, Todger? Did literally no Muslims donate to the far better publicised Met Police crowdfund? Maybe we should segregate all Muslim activity so we can have a mass compassion measuring competition. While we're at it, we could get Muslims to sew crescents onto their clothing - they'll be easier to keep an eye on that way We could also ban them from driving cars so that they can't run people over in future. We'd potentially be a few taxis and takeaway deliveries shy but it's a small price to pay for keeping those fuckers in check, right? On a serious note, why don't you take a break from EE, fella? You can leave the arduous task of subjecting the world to inane racist shite to some of the other lads for a bit - plenty of able deputies on here Your better half probably misses you
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 26, 2017 14:10:06 GMT
What's this even supposed to prove, Todger? Did literally no Muslims donate to the far better publicised Met Police crowdfund? Maybe we should segregate all Muslim activity so we can have a mass compassion measuring competition. While we're at it, we could get Muslims to sew crescents onto their clothing - they'll be easier to keep an eye on that way We could also ban them from driving cars so that they can't run people over in future. We'd potentially be a few taxis and takeaway deliveries shy but it's a small price to pay for keeping those fuckers in check, right? On a serious note, why don't you take a break from EE, fella? You can leave the arduous task of subjecting the world to inane racist shite to some of the other lads for a bit - plenty of able deputies on here Your better half probably misses you White noise. Although not having you posting nonsense all over the shop these last couple of weeks has been refreshing. That new job must be keeping you busy.
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Post by Jimmyg on Mar 26, 2017 21:09:07 GMT
Correct! All those with extreme views should be relentlessly hounded out of the country by any means. No excuses! Just cos you were born here doesn't mean you can stay if you're extreme reactionary. Get them all out now! A good start would be Katie Hopkins. Just cause she was born here, thinks she can spread hatred and terror. She works for the establishment, no doubt about it puts the daily mail to shame with her hysteria
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Post by Mendicant on Mar 26, 2017 22:05:12 GMT
A good start would be Katie Hopkins. Just cause she was born here, thinks she can spread hatred and terror. She works for the establishment, no doubt about it puts the daily mail to shame with her hysteria She's a political animal.
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 26, 2017 22:15:12 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Mar 26, 2017 22:22:28 GMT
What's this even supposed to prove, Todger? Did literally no Muslims donate to the far better publicised Met Police crowdfund? Maybe we should segregate all Muslim activity so we can have a mass compassion measuring competition. While we're at it, we could get Muslims to sew crescents onto their clothing - they'll be easier to keep an eye on that way We could also ban them from driving cars so that they can't run people over in future. We'd potentially be a few taxis and takeaway deliveries shy but it's a small price to pay for keeping those fuckers in check, right? On a serious note, why don't you take a break from EE, fella? You can leave the arduous task of subjecting the world to inane racist shite to some of the other lads for a bit - plenty of able deputies on here Your better half probably misses you White noise. Although not having you posting nonsense all over the shop these last couple of weeks has been refreshing. That new job must be keeping you busy. Clitty is back to ruin the EE board yet again, I see he is advocating Nazi measures to deal with a real enemy within rather than the measures used by the Nazis to deal with Jews by AH, Corbyn and Co. take note if you ever gain power in this country this is how anti Semitists deal with Jews.
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Post by Parkhall Wanderer on Mar 26, 2017 23:18:10 GMT
What's this even supposed to prove, Todger? Did literally no Muslims donate to the far better publicised Met Police crowdfund? Maybe we should segregate all Muslim activity so we can have a mass compassion measuring competition. While we're at it, we could get Muslims to sew crescents onto their clothing - they'll be easier to keep an eye on that way We could also ban them from driving cars so that they can't run people over in future. We'd potentially be a few taxis and takeaway deliveries shy but it's a small price to pay for keeping those fuckers in check, right? On a serious note, why don't you take a break from EE, fella? You can leave the arduous task of subjecting the world to inane racist shite to some of the other lads for a bit - plenty of able deputies on here Your better half probably misses you Well done MM you laid the bait for the other able deputies to bore the arse of us with their ramblings - and look who lifted the lid on his nuclear bunker........good old shit spreader. Talks about others being hooked he couldn't help himself could he. Ker-Ching
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Post by manmarking on Mar 27, 2017 14:19:37 GMT
White noise. Although not having you posting nonsense all over the shop these last couple of weeks has been refreshing. That new job must be keeping you busy. Clitty is back to ruin the EE board yet again, I see he is advocating Nazi measures to deal with a real enemy within rather than the measures used by the Nazis to deal with Jews by AH, Corbyn and Co. take note if you ever gain power in this country this is how anti Semitists deal with Jews. Carps, can't you see you're embarrassing the moderate wing. Todger is trying to make a reasoned, logical case (albeit in a poorly reasoned, illogical way). You're the shit on his nice shiny shoes - he's walked into the building to make his case but you're undermining his credibility. Ultimately, no one likes a guy who's treading dogshit through the shagpile, no matter how reasoned they might appear Stop and think for a moment why it is that he never likes your posts or responds to them. Your black bomber jacket and Oxblood Docs just ain't welcome down the Conservative Club, I'm afraid fella If you understood anything about Naziism, you'd know that we can't just go straight to being overtly racist like you - bricking people's windows, telling people to "go home" and such. I've no doubt it's great lolz (and probably a lot to do with why you were fired from the Jobcentre) but it's not mainstream yet. Let people like Todger smooth the path for you and maybe - just maybe - you'll get your long awaited second Kristallnacht
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Mar 27, 2017 15:09:03 GMT
Clitty is back to ruin the EE board yet again, I see he is advocating Nazi measures to deal with a real enemy within rather than the measures used by the Nazis to deal with Jews by AH, Corbyn and Co. take note if you ever gain power in this country this is how anti Semitists deal with Jews. Carps, can't you see you're embarrassing the moderate wing. Todger is trying to make a reasoned, logical case (albeit in a poorly reasoned, illogical way). You're the shit on his nice shiny shoes - he's walked into the building to make his case but you're undermining his credibility. Ultimately, no one likes a guy who's treading dogshit through the shagpile, no matter how reasoned they might appear Stop and think for a moment why it is that he never likes your posts or responds to them. Your black bomber jacket and Oxblood Docs just ain't welcome down the Conservative Club, I'm afraid fella If you understood anything about Naziism, you'd know that we can't just go straight to being overtly racist like you - bricking people's windows, telling people to "go home" and such. I've no doubt it's great lolz (and probably a lot to do with why you were fired from the Jobcentre) but it's not mainstream yet. Let people like Todger smooth the path for you and maybe - just maybe - you'll get your long awaited second Kristallnacht All are welcome at the Conservative Club mate. We're a party for the whole Nation. 18 holers or an Oxford Brogue. :-) *Note to self. More likes.
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Post by Mendicant on Mar 27, 2017 15:15:55 GMT
That reminds me, I need to renew my Photoshop subscription.
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