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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2017 23:21:12 GMT
What a fuck up
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 27, 2017 23:23:13 GMT
Good journos use diverse sources. Do you think he reads the Oatcake Paul? I do. This is fluff feeding off discontent on here ain't it? Percy wants an audience. He may have timed this to... A team in Italy or France thought they had a deal sewn up for Imbula and we let Bojan go. It's nothing of the sort. The transfer policy is an absolute mess. Nearly as big a mess as the make up of the squad. That's a given and won't change for a while and has been the case for 2 years! No mate. Don't get what you're saying re anything being a given. Or at least something that's not under development. Not with you.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 27, 2017 23:23:34 GMT
This surely must call into question the managers future Unless he can recoup a fair amount back. We should be able to sell the pair of them for at least what we signed Imbula for. Priceless
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 27, 2017 23:24:31 GMT
The question that Coates needs to ask himself is can he back Hughes with big money again? Shaqiri(not really done it) Imbula(who the hell scouted him) Allen who I rate but many on here say is crap🤔 Joselu who looks like he's gone He's been better for me when he's bought in players like Arnie,Grant,Johnson,Affellay etc who've cost pittance in comparison
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 27, 2017 23:32:11 GMT
To be fair, Percy has consistently been on the money with all things Stoke City.
Good journos use diverse sources. Do you think he reads the Oatcake Paul? I do. This is fluff feeding off discontent on here ain't it? Percy wants an audience. He may have timed this to...
Ask anybody on here who is the only journalist who consistently gets stuff right about Stoke and to a man people will tell you it's Percy mate.
How often has it been said on here "if it's not come from Percy, then it's probably bollox"?
He doesn't need to read the Oatcake to get a platform, his strike rate previously has seen to that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 27, 2017 23:34:21 GMT
A team in Italy or France thought they had a deal sewn up for Imbula and we let Bojan go. It's nothing of the sort. The transfer policy is an absolute mess. Nearly as big a mess as the make up of the squad. That's a given and won't change for a while and has been the case for 2 years! No mate. Don't get what you're saying re anything being a given. Or at least something that's not under development. Not with you. You never are because you live in some parallel universe where absolutely nothing is wrong.
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 27, 2017 23:34:41 GMT
Would anybody be that fussed if we sold every single central midfielder this summer? I'd be sad to see Bojan and Whelan go, but we really could do with just throwing the whole lot away and starting again.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 27, 2017 23:36:28 GMT
The question that Coates needs to ask himself is can he back Hughes with big money again? Shaqiri(not really done it) Imbula(who the hell scouted him) Allen who I rate but many on here say is crap🤔 Joselu who looks like he's gone He's been better for me when he's bought in players like Arnie,Grant,Johnson,Affellay etc who've cost pittance in comparison Even if you rate Allen you've got to look at what his signing has done to the squad. We never needed him and it was clear his inclusion would marginalise Bojan. Which is still mental. He was never needed and it made an unbalanced midfield even more unbalanced.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 27, 2017 23:38:03 GMT
Would anybody be that fussed if we sold every single central midfielder this summer? I'd be sad to see Bojan and Whelan go, but we really could do with just throwing the whole lot away and starting again. Oh god yeah and I've said as much. But I just can't see how a manager survives selling his 18m club record signing after showing he has no idea on how to use him 18 months after signing him.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 27, 2017 23:39:38 GMT
Good journos use diverse sources. Do you think he reads the Oatcake Paul? I do. This is fluff feeding off discontent on here ain't it? Percy wants an audience. He may have timed this to...
Ask anybody on here who is the only journalist who consistently gets stuff right about Stoke and to a man people will tell you it's Percy mate.
How often has it been said on here "if it's not come from Percy, then it's probably bollox"?
He doesn't need to read the Oatcake to get a platform, his strike rate previously has seen to that.
He reads the Oatcake mate.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 27, 2017 23:40:38 GMT
If Bojan goes it'll be a huge sign of regression for me. Return of the midfield cage and the long diagonals. Why? After 3 games, he can't even get on the pitch for a mid-table Bundesliga team. Bojan, certainly at the minute, clearly isn't anywhere near as good as people are making him out to be and is nowhere near as good as everyone hopes he can be.
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Post by cheeesfreeex on Feb 27, 2017 23:41:12 GMT
No mate. Don't get what you're saying re anything being a given. Or at least something that's not under development. Not with you. You never are because you live in some parallel universe where absolutely nothing is wrong. Not really true mate. But it's ok in my world.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 27, 2017 23:43:59 GMT
Good journos use diverse sources. Do you think he reads the Oatcake Paul? I do. This is fluff feeding off discontent on here ain't it? Percy wants an audience. He may have timed this to...
Ask anybody on here who is the only journalist who consistently gets stuff right about Stoke and to a man people will tell you it's Percy mate.
How often has it been said on here "if it's not come from Percy, then it's probably bollox"?
He doesn't need to read the Oatcake to get a platform, his strike rate previously has seen to that.
Isn't this just a re-hash of last weeks Sentinel article though?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 27, 2017 23:44:31 GMT
If Bojan goes it'll be a huge sign of regression for me. Return of the midfield cage and the long diagonals. Why? After 3 games, he can't even get on the pitch for a mid-table Bundesliga team. Bojan, certainly at the minute, clearly isn't anywhere near as good as people are making him out to be and is nowhere near as good as everyone hopes he can be.
So how do we get somebody to take over his twenty million pounds contract then?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 27, 2017 23:46:13 GMT
Isn't the huge sign of regression us having the main tactic of hoofing it to Crouch?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 27, 2017 23:46:30 GMT
Ask anybody on here who is the only journalist who consistently gets stuff right about Stoke and to a man people will tell you it's Percy mate.
How often has it been said on here "if it's not come from Percy, then it's probably bollox"?
He doesn't need to read the Oatcake to get a platform, his strike rate previously has seen to that.
Isn't this just a re-hash of last weeks Sentinel article though?
I haven't got a clue, did it say the same thing?
All I'm saying, is that the journo who is light years ahead of any others when it comes to Stoke City, is John Percy, no question.
If the story had come from (say) John Cross, it wouldn't carry anything like as much weight on here.
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Post by pottarius on Feb 27, 2017 23:48:30 GMT
Would anybody be that fussed if we sold every single central midfielder this summer? I'd be sad to see Bojan and Whelan go, but we really could do with just throwing the whole lot away and starting again. Not one bit I'll be more than fussed if Hughes is the one given the money to replace them though!
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Post by pottarius on Feb 27, 2017 23:52:17 GMT
Isn't the huge sign of regression us having the main tactic of hoofing it to Crouch? Its a white flag of surrender from Hughes - he hasn't a clue how to set up the disjointed squad he's collected & frankly mismanaged
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Post by jezzascfc on Feb 27, 2017 23:52:33 GMT
Both are for the exit - that much has been clear for a while. Imbula would have gone in January as well, if the deal didn't fall through (when we changed the terms, it was alleged).
How much we get and what we do with the proceeds (and even who spends it!) are the bigger issues right now.
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Post by liamo on Feb 27, 2017 23:54:09 GMT
The question that Coates needs to ask himself is can he back Hughes with big money again? Shaqiri(not really done it) Imbula(who the hell scouted him) Allen who I rate but many on here say is crap🤔 Joselu who looks like he's gone He's been better for me when he's bought in players like Arnie,Grant,Johnson,Affellay etc who've cost pittance in comparison Even if you rate Allen you've got to look at what his signing has done to the squad. We never needed him and it was clear his inclusion would marginalise Bojan. Which is still mental. He was never needed and it made an unbalanced midfield even more unbalanced. I rate Allen but i completely agree, he was not needed at all and is on the "fringe player from a top team, no clue what the hell to do with him but let's buy him for the hell of it" list that must be hanging up in Hughes' office somewhere I'm convinced that Hughes got it wrong twice with Imbula and then Allen, he bought one to replace Zonz and then one to replace the replacement Zonz and failed BOTH times, only succeeding in fucking the team shape up and forcing Bojan out of the club We're in this weird twilight zone where we've had to revert tactics to slightly post-pulis and call on the old guard to get the job done because Hughes obsession with buying random players that don't fit in to the team obviously never works, the man has bought chess pieces and is now trying to play connect 4 with them
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Post by TexasPotter on Feb 28, 2017 0:03:31 GMT
Imbula was the only one from our side he brought in I had never heard of but that start he had decieved. Never seen such a talent flop for not willing to do simple basic defending and effort. So sad. Bojan leaving seems to have me more perplexed as it seems Allen is where he is betting his cards? Interesting if true as Bojan can light it up if confident and charged. I think hughes needs to take a back seat to selecting transfers and let a board or group of scouts do it. More Indi's and less imbulas in the squad.
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Post by baystokie on Feb 28, 2017 0:06:21 GMT
The summer clear out should start with Hughes... If I were coates I wouldn't trust him with a single penny At least the 'real' Coates, through his involvement and experience, knows the game which is more than can be said for the pseudo-managers who populate this forum. You get the impression that the punters on here have never made a mistake or wrong decision in their lives. Hilarious!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 0:06:55 GMT
If Bojan goes it'll be a huge sign of regression for me. Return of the midfield cage and the long diagonals. Why? After 3 games, he can't even get on the pitch for a mid-table Bundesliga team. Bojan, certainly at the minute, clearly isn't anywhere near as good as people are making him out to be and is nowhere near as good as everyone hopes he can be. He's our only properly creative central player, and I very much doubt we'll find better for anything other than a huge transfer fee. If we do by the way, I'm more than prepared to eat humble pie, it's really what I'm relying on. So take away our only creative central player, meaning the midfield is an engine room, i.e. the cage. and our play comes from balls over the midfield, i.e. long diagonals. We have some skill on the wing, but thats stopped far too easily by sticking two men on each winger.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 28, 2017 0:25:12 GMT
What was the idea behind buying Berahino?
Answers on a postcard
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 28, 2017 0:26:55 GMT
What was the idea behind buying Berahino? Answers on a postcard We've signed a good young striker?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 0:28:22 GMT
Exactly. "Ready to be sold" certainly doesn't mean they will be. So we could be lumbered with premium players on top whack that Hughes has no intention of and even less idea of how to use. Sounds a winning formula! Sounds like....QPR? And I despise myself for typing that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2017 0:29:41 GMT
Would anybody be that fussed if we sold every single central midfielder this summer? I'd be sad to see Bojan and Whelan go, but we really could do with just throwing the whole lot away and starting again. Keep Allen and Affy. The rest....sayonara bitches.
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Post by Malex on Feb 28, 2017 0:44:05 GMT
What was the idea behind buying Berahino? Answers on a postcard We've signed a good young striker? Who doesn't fit our system and will get very little service! Revert to 4-4-2 and stick him up top with Crouchy and he'd probably flourish. Play him as a lone front man, lofting long balls up to him and with no creativity behind him and he's probably going to flop.
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Post by cooper67 on Feb 28, 2017 1:02:03 GMT
Bojan being on his way was mentioned in The Sun about a week ago-hardly a surprise is it?
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Post by riccyfuller93 on Feb 28, 2017 1:17:00 GMT
I want to see Imbula as a no.10
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