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Post by robstokie on Feb 22, 2017 20:10:21 GMT
However if Labour get in They promise to create hundreds of jobs, look after our elderly, provide social housing, educate our children, rebuild our derelict City .........Oh wait they've been saying that for the last 50 years that I know of and have done sod all as this has been a safe seat they have always taken for granted. Even when in power they have sat by and watched the safest Labour seat in the country slide into the abyss. What a great reward for the loyalty of Stoke-on-Trent. Indeed think twice before you vote. Also applies to South Wales (where I moved as a kid from Hanley), Liverpool, Manchester and Swathes of the North-East. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 20:18:26 GMT
They got a referendum and won....which is exactly what people like you said they would never do You just don't get it...it's people like you thinking you know best when really you who are out of touch with reality  Please don't come back as I know how this game goes on here and I'm bored already  I'll come back and apologise the minute UKIP take over the country! I never believed they'd form a government with farage so I certainly don't believe they would now What I'm saying is as long as their policies remain popular with the man on the street then that's all that matters as whoever is in charge has to take on their policies in some manner ....if they wish to stay in power Look at lib lab Tory parties now compared to 2 or 3 yr back Just the word immigration was seen as a racist comment There are many instances where ukip have won....regardless of them not parking their arses on those green seats  Stand back. Take your red glasses off and look |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 22, 2017 21:39:06 GMT
I'll come back and apologise the minute UKIP take over the country! I never believed they'd form a government with farage so I certainly don't believe they would now What I'm saying is as long as their policies remain popular with the man on the street then that's all that matters as whoever is in charge has to take on their policies in some manner ....if they wish to stay in power Look at lib lab Tory parties now compared to 2 or 3 yr back Just the word immigration was seen as a racist comment There are many instances where ukip have won....regardless of them not parking their arses on those green seats Stand back. Take your red glasses off and look It's like playing ping pong on here. At the end of the day you have your opinion, others have theirs and a few posts on here isn't going to make anyone change their mind. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 0:01:32 GMT
I think Paul Nuttall is an attention seeker, however as no one is funding me to stand he will have to do. The thought of Corbyn and his girlfriend Diane Abbott running this country scares the shit out of me, just look at them in the 80s. Do you think they have changed...no they can just afford better clothes the stuff they believe is still the same. People do not change as they get older they just entrench in their beliefs. This country needs CHANGE the system of government we have had for hundreds of years is corrupt, outdated and unfit for purpose voting Labour or Tory is just delaying that process. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/22/revealed-jeremy-corbyn-showed-off-naked-diane-abbott-to-impress/Linking some shite devised by non dom Barclay brothers is thick cunt mentality. Why? because it doesn't suit your agenda. One look at the man says prat, bring him here let him talk to me and hear my life . Then see what he knows. The answer is already known. A life of privilege and demos against the bomb. While some of us were working and struggling to raise a family.
You are right though. I am a thick cnut, I should never have worked for a living and gone into politics.
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Post by stockportstokie on Feb 23, 2017 1:09:54 GMT
Linking some shite devised by non dom Barclay brothers is thick cunt mentality. Why? because it doesn't suit your agenda. One look at the man says prat, bring him here let him talk to me and hear my life . Then see what he knows. The answer is already known. A life of privilege and demos against the bomb. While some of us were working and struggling to raise a family.
You are right though. I am a thick cnut, I should never have worked for a living and gone into politics.
If you believe Jeremy Corbyn represents more of a danger to you and your family than the Barclay brothers then I'm sorry you are a thick cunt. What you linked was the agenda, the Barclay brothers owned everything in that article. They must piss themselves at peasants like you. They don't pay so much as a penny of tax on their estimated £6.5bn fortune and they're able to successfully use their propaganda machines to brainwash people that "struggle to raise a family" into believing that a man who would have them pay their fair share isn't worth bothering with. These gangsters and others of a similar ilk have stolen unimaginable amounts of money out from this country for decades. The sort that would privatize education, abolish free healthcare & further seek to exploit your labour to further line their own pockets the first chance they got. Wake up ffs. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 6:53:11 GMT
Why? because it doesn't suit your agenda. One look at the man says prat, bring him here let him talk to me and hear my life . Then see what he knows. The answer is already known. A life of privilege and demos against the bomb. While some of us were working and struggling to raise a family.
You are right though. I am a thick cnut, I should never have worked for a living and gone into politics.
If you believe Jeremy Corbyn represents more of a danger to you and your family than the Barclay brothers then I'm sorry you are a thick cunt. What you linked was the agenda, the Barclay brothers owned everything in that article. They must piss themselves at peasants like you. They don't pay so much as a penny of tax on their estimated £6.5bn fortune and they're able to successfully use their propaganda machines to brainwash people that "struggle to raise a family" into believing that a man who would have them pay their fair share isn't worth bothering with. These gangsters and others of a similar ilk have stolen unimaginable amounts of money out from this country for decades. The sort that would privatize education, abolish free healthcare & further seek to exploit your labour to further line their own pockets the first chance they got. Wake up ffs.  you are a very angry little man aren't you. Riv obviously has different political views than you , as do a great many more I suspect. I believe a vote for corbyn and labour is a vote to watch our country get washed down the pan.....they nearly managed it last time Let's hope they never get a chance ever again. That's alright tho isn't it? We can have a difference in political preference? You don't need to call everyone peasants and thick cunts because they don't agree with yourself. You need to take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror young man Ask your mum to hold the chair so you don't fall off first |
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Post by skemstokie on Feb 23, 2017 8:39:45 GMT
I'll come back and apologise the minute UKIP take over the country! I never believed they'd form a government with farage so I certainly don't believe they would now What I'm saying is as long as their policies remain popular with the man on the street then that's all that matters as whoever is in charge has to take on their policies in some manner ....if they wish to stay in power Look at lib lab Tory parties now compared to 2 or 3 yr back Just the word immigration was seen as a racist comment There are many instances where ukip have won....regardless of them not parking their arses on those green seats Stand back. Take your red glasses off and look Farage is a bigot,a hypocrite and a racist,how can anyone who is the descendant of a immigrant then seek to close the door on future immigrants,and for good measure he supports Trump.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 8:48:17 GMT
I never believed they'd form a government with farage so I certainly don't believe they would now What I'm saying is as long as their policies remain popular with the man on the street then that's all that matters as whoever is in charge has to take on their policies in some manner ....if they wish to stay in power Look at lib lab Tory parties now compared to 2 or 3 yr back Just the word immigration was seen as a racist comment There are many instances where ukip have won....regardless of them not parking their arses on those green seats Stand back. Take your red glasses off and look Farage is a bigot,a hypocrite and a racist,how can anyone who is the descendant of a immigrant then seek to close the door on future immigrants,and for good measure he supports Trump. yeh ok mate |
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Post by thevoid on Feb 23, 2017 9:05:05 GMT
I never believed they'd form a government with farage so I certainly don't believe they would now What I'm saying is as long as their policies remain popular with the man on the street then that's all that matters as whoever is in charge has to take on their policies in some manner ....if they wish to stay in power Look at lib lab Tory parties now compared to 2 or 3 yr back Just the word immigration was seen as a racist comment There are many instances where ukip have won....regardless of them not parking their arses on those green seats Stand back. Take your red glasses off and look Farage is a bigot,a hypocrite and a racist,how can anyone who is the descendant of a immigrant then seek to close the door on future immigrants,and for good measure he supports Trump. Do you believe in uncontrolled immigration? |
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Post by skemstokie on Feb 23, 2017 9:46:43 GMT
Farage is a bigot,a hypocrite and a racist,how can anyone who is the descendant of a immigrant then seek to close the door on future immigrants,and for good measure he supports Trump. Do you believe in uncontrolled immigration? I believe the problem with immigration is not from within Europe,these are people we need, according to reports today as many as 12.000 doctors from E.E.A. are prepared to re-locate back to EU countries as they no longer feel welcome here,our local hospital is now facing serious nurse shortages as nurses have already left for this reason. I am old enough to remember pre EU Britain and the brain drain when top achievers emigrated to attain their dreams, we now (through EU funding) keep these and are the main centre for much research funding within the EU (72% of the Eu medical budget) a trend which will end with Brexit. Economic migrants from the rest of the world is big no for me. |
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Feb 23, 2017 12:09:54 GMT
Do you believe in uncontrolled immigration? I believe the problem with immigration is not from within Europe,these are people we need, according to reports today as many as 12.000 doctors from E.E.A. are prepared to re-locate back to EU countries as they no longer feel welcome here,our local hospital is now facing serious nurse shortages as nurses have already left for this reason. I am old enough to remember pre EU Britain and the brain drain when top achievers emigrated to attain their dreams, we now (through EU funding) keep these and are the main centre for much research funding within the EU (72% of the Eu medical budget) a trend which will end with Brexit. Economic migrants from the rest of the world is big no for me. Sigh... I wish you'd get your facts right rather use inflated arguments. The REAL reason why there is such a nursing shortage is simply because not enough nurses are completing training to fill the shortage. An example would be the Notts authority (North Central and South) are all in crisis and I have had to source nursing from Italy (same standards but the opposite is the case.... not enough placements for nursing). This is the real factor and will take years to close the shortage... not some spurious argument that you come out with. As for your 12000 doctors... so they are prepare are they? They haven't actually left... considering a large number come from Sub Indian Continent and a minimum for central/Northern Europe... the Brexit has no real bearing. Economic migrants have always been a factor in the success of the UK economy (from former U.K. Colonies and beyond) and nothing will change. Once more, as someone who worked in the industry, especially in the training development and recruiting of said individuals... i recommend you fact check your information again  |
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Post by skemstokie on Feb 23, 2017 12:39:57 GMT
I believe the problem with immigration is not from within Europe,these are people we need, according to reports today as many as 12.000 doctors from E.E.A. are prepared to re-locate back to EU countries as they no longer feel welcome here,our local hospital is now facing serious nurse shortages as nurses have already left for this reason. I am old enough to remember pre EU Britain and the brain drain when top achievers emigrated to attain their dreams, we now (through EU funding) keep these and are the main centre for much research funding within the EU (72% of the Eu medical budget) a trend which will end with Brexit. Economic migrants from the rest of the world is big no for me. Sigh... I wish you'd get your facts right rather use inflated arguments. The REAL reason why there is such a nursing shortage is simply because not enough nurses are completing training to fill the shortage. An example would be the Notts authority (North Central and South) are all in crisis and I have had to source nursing from Italy (same standards but the opposite is the case.... not enough placements for nursing). This is the real factor and will take years to close the shortage... not some spurious argument that you come out with. As for your 12000 doctors... so they are prepare are they? They haven't actually left... considering a large number come from Sub Indian Continent and a minimum for central/Northern Europe... the Brexit has no real bearing. Economic migrants have always been a factor in the success of the UK economy (from former U.K. Colonies and beyond) and nothing will change. Once more, as someone who worked in the industry, especially in the training development and recruiting of said individuals... i recommend you fact check your information again Not my report the Guardian,but i presume you know best |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 12:53:00 GMT
Why? because it doesn't suit your agenda. One look at the man says prat, bring him here let him talk to me and hear my life . Then see what he knows. The answer is already known. A life of privilege and demos against the bomb. While some of us were working and struggling to raise a family.
You are right though. I am a thick cnut, I should never have worked for a living and gone into politics.
If you believe Jeremy Corbyn represents more of a danger to you and your family than the Barclay brothers then I'm sorry you are a thick cunt. What you linked was the agenda, the Barclay brothers owned everything in that article. They must piss themselves at peasants like you. They don't pay so much as a penny of tax on their estimated £6.5bn fortune and they're able to successfully use their propaganda machines to brainwash people that "struggle to raise a family" into believing that a man who would have them pay their fair share isn't worth bothering with. These gangsters and others of a similar ilk have stolen unimaginable amounts of money out from this country for decades. The sort that would privatize education, abolish free healthcare & further seek to exploit your labour to further line their own pockets the first chance they got. Wake up ffs. That's quite funny as I would privatise education as well and the NHS as they are both massive failures at the moment and in danger of total collapse. Take a look at your own posts and see how you have to resort to personal abuse to try and make your point. If ever their was a clear sign of stupidity then that is it.
I doubt very much that the Barclay brothers will ever be prime minister of this country, they will never get rid of our nuclear defence or flood our country with immigrants on an open borders policy or tie us to a failing EU with a shared monetary policy that has already caused disaster for Greece or condemn us to a Federal Europe as a minor state governed by an EU parliament.
No it is you who needs to wake up. Unless you think that the NHS and the Schools are a success, that the last 50 years of labour has made Stoke-on-Trent a City to be proud of. If that's true then I suggest you walk around Longton this Saturday and take another look.
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Post by stockportstokie on Feb 23, 2017 13:27:23 GMT
If you believe Jeremy Corbyn represents more of a danger to you and your family than the Barclay brothers then I'm sorry you are a thick cunt. What you linked was the agenda, the Barclay brothers owned everything in that article. They must piss themselves at peasants like you. They don't pay so much as a penny of tax on their estimated £6.5bn fortune and they're able to successfully use their propaganda machines to brainwash people that "struggle to raise a family" into believing that a man who would have them pay their fair share isn't worth bothering with. These gangsters and others of a similar ilk have stolen unimaginable amounts of money out from this country for decades. The sort that would privatize education, abolish free healthcare & further seek to exploit your labour to further line their own pockets the first chance they got. Wake up ffs. That's quite funny as I would privatise education as well and the NHS as they are both massive failures at the moment and in danger of total collapse. Take a look at your own posts and see how you have to resort to personal abuse to try and make your point. If ever their was a clear sign of stupidity then that is it.
I doubt very much that the Barclay brothers will ever be prime minister of this country, they will never get rid of our nuclear defence or flood our country with immigrants on an open borders policy or tie us to a failing EU with a shared monetary policy that has already caused disaster for Greece or condemn us to a Federal Europe as a minor state governed by an EU parliament.
No it is you who needs to wake up. Unless you think that the NHS and the Schools are a success, that the last 50 years of labour has made Stoke-on-Trent a City to be proud of. If that's true then I suggest you walk around Longton this Saturday and take another look.
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Post by skemstokie on Feb 23, 2017 13:29:11 GMT
I believe the problem with immigration is not from within Europe,these are people we need, according to reports today as many as 12.000 doctors from E.E.A. are prepared to re-locate back to EU countries as they no longer feel welcome here,our local hospital is now facing serious nurse shortages as nurses have already left for this reason. I am old enough to remember pre EU Britain and the brain drain when top achievers emigrated to attain their dreams, we now (through EU funding) keep these and are the main centre for much research funding within the EU (72% of the Eu medical budget) a trend which will end with Brexit. Economic migrants from the rest of the world is big no for me. Sigh... I wish you'd get your facts right rather use inflated arguments. The REAL reason why there is such a nursing shortage is simply because not enough nurses are completing training to fill the shortage. An example would be the Notts authority (North Central and South) are all in crisis and I have had to source nursing from Italy (same standards but the opposite is the case.... not enough placements for nursing). This is the real factor and will take years to close the shortage... not some spurious argument that you come out with. As for your 12000 doctors... so they are prepare are they? They haven't actually left... considering a large number come from Sub Indian Continent and a minimum for central/Northern Europe... the Brexit has no real bearing. Economic migrants have always been a factor in the success of the UK economy (from former U.K. Colonies and beyond) and nothing will change. Once more, as someone who worked in the industry, especially in the training development and recruiting of said individuals... i recommend you fact check your information again Would it be o.k. if i sent you any future post`s as a p.m.for you to vet prior to me posting them to avoid any future mistakes with "facts"  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2017 14:01:15 GMT
That's quite funny as I would privatise education as well and the NHS as they are both massive failures at the moment and in danger of total collapse. Take a look at your own posts and see how you have to resort to personal abuse to try and make your point. If ever their was a clear sign of stupidity then that is it.
I doubt very much that the Barclay brothers will ever be prime minister of this country, they will never get rid of our nuclear defence or flood our country with immigrants on an open borders policy or tie us to a failing EU with a shared monetary policy that has already caused disaster for Greece or condemn us to a Federal Europe as a minor state governed by an EU parliament.
No it is you who needs to wake up. Unless you think that the NHS and the Schools are a success, that the last 50 years of labour has made Stoke-on-Trent a City to be proud of. If that's true then I suggest you walk around Longton this Saturday and take another look.
Yep, we have a confirmed thick cunt. I rest my case. |
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Post by stockportstokie on Feb 23, 2017 14:18:47 GMT
Yep, we have a confirmed thick cunt. I rest my case. You have no case. |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Feb 23, 2017 14:46:15 GMT
whereas you're coming across as well educated, well informed, eloquent, fair minded and rooted in sound thinking, well done. |
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Post by stockportstokie on Feb 23, 2017 14:55:56 GMT
whereas you're coming across as well educated, well informed, eloquent, fair minded and rooted in sound thinking, well done. Cheers. |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Feb 23, 2017 15:59:27 GMT
whereas you're coming across as well educated, well informed, eloquent, fair minded and rooted in sound thinking, well done. Cheers. Look up "sarcasm" in a dictionary. |
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Post by stockportstokie on Feb 23, 2017 16:12:22 GMT
Look up "sarcasm" in a dictionary. You got doubled you plank. Whooosh. |
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Post by bringmesunshine on Feb 23, 2017 16:44:21 GMT
Look up "sarcasm" in a dictionary. You got doubled you plank. Whooosh. Yes and that's the keen insight that's convinced corbin's followers that he's potential MP material and is even remotely electable isn't it, well done. |
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Post by stockportstokie on Feb 23, 2017 17:05:15 GMT
You got doubled you plank. Whooosh. Yes and that's the keen insight that's convinced corbin's followers that he's potential MP material and is even remotely electable isn't it, well done. What are you jibbering on about  You got set up in a trap and you took the bait and got caught. Take your L like a man and move on. |
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Feb 23, 2017 22:59:40 GMT
Sigh... I wish you'd get your facts right rather use inflated arguments. The REAL reason why there is such a nursing shortage is simply because not enough nurses are completing training to fill the shortage. An example would be the Notts authority (North Central and South) are all in crisis and I have had to source nursing from Italy (same standards but the opposite is the case.... not enough placements for nursing). This is the real factor and will take years to close the shortage... not some spurious argument that you come out with. As for your 12000 doctors... so they are prepare are they? They haven't actually left... considering a large number come from Sub Indian Continent and a minimum for central/Northern Europe... the Brexit has no real bearing. Economic migrants have always been a factor in the success of the UK economy (from former U.K. Colonies and beyond) and nothing will change. Once more, as someone who worked in the industry, especially in the training development and recruiting of said individuals... i recommend you fact check your information again Would it be o.k. if i sent you any future post`s as a p.m.for you to vet prior to me posting them to avoid any future mistakes with "facts" Perhaps a little humility would be preferable than sarcastic leaning retorts. I admit I make mistakes, but I'm big enough to admit them rather than petulant remarks... |
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Feb 23, 2017 23:04:33 GMT
Sigh... I wish you'd get your facts right rather use inflated arguments. The REAL reason why there is such a nursing shortage is simply because not enough nurses are completing training to fill the shortage. An example would be the Notts authority (North Central and South) are all in crisis and I have had to source nursing from Italy (same standards but the opposite is the case.... not enough placements for nursing). This is the real factor and will take years to close the shortage... not some spurious argument that you come out with. As for your 12000 doctors... so they are prepare are they? They haven't actually left... considering a large number come from Sub Indian Continent and a minimum for central/Northern Europe... the Brexit has no real bearing. Economic migrants have always been a factor in the success of the UK economy (from former U.K. Colonies and beyond) and nothing will change. Once more, as someone who worked in the industry, especially in the training development and recruiting of said individuals... i recommend you fact check your information again Not my report the Guardian,but i presume you know best Considering I very recently worked directly in the nursing sector including recruitment, engagement and development on a national basis... so yes, i do know better than a media source that has an agenda. |
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Post by skemstokie on Feb 24, 2017 8:11:03 GMT
Would it be o.k. if i sent you any future post`s as a p.m.for you to vet prior to me posting them to avoid any future mistakes with "facts" Perhaps a little humility would be preferable than sarcastic leaning retorts. I admit I make mistakes, but I'm big enough to admit them rather than petulant remarks... I will forever be grateful that i never had the misfortune to meet you or work in the same sector as you, you accuse me of showing no humility why should i for not sharing your opinions or believing your version of facts? and as for sarcastic remarks to criticise someones grammar is that not sarcastic? I will close with two word, condescending bastard  |
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on Feb 26, 2017 13:24:46 GMT
Perhaps a little humility would be preferable than sarcastic leaning retorts. I admit I make mistakes, but I'm big enough to admit them rather than petulant remarks... I will forever be grateful that i never had the misfortune to meet you or work in the same sector as you, you accuse me of showing no humility why should i for not sharing your opinions or believing your version of facts? and as for sarcastic remarks to criticise someones grammar is that not sarcastic? I will close with two word, condescending bastard I obviously touched a nerve. I refuted your "facts" and your retort shows you've been found to be wanting. Your reaction proves more about you than me. |
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you are a very angry little man aren't you. 
You got set up in a trap and you took the bait and got caught. Take your L like a man and move on.
