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Post by followyoudown on Feb 13, 2017 21:04:03 GMT
Why is he an idiot - mate? Or is it that you find it difficult to take mild criticism? Just wondering. To be fair I thought his comment was out of context for the thread too, Anie does decent thing gets turned into he can't score thread in 1 post , he went on to say it was sarcasm but that wasn't picked up in his post ( no smiley etc) Sometimes you hope humour is so self evident it doesn't need smileys, plenty of people got it fine, some didn't and some just wanted to wilfully misintrepret it, and just as a point of order, I mentioned the last two home games, i'm actually surprised when Arnie doesn't score from those sort of positions as he is normally that good.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 13, 2017 21:10:27 GMT
I've been supporting Arnie since 2013 you've started this year, the fact you don't rate Ryan and thought Arnie was a showpony says a lot about your appreciation and knowledge of football. Truly ironic that you're probably one of the fools who has poured bile on Arnie for years yet stamp you feet and cry at a light hearted joke. I've praised arnie much more than I criticized him Always said he's one of the truly talented players in the team Certainly never poured 'bile' though it seems that you're quite adept at bile-pouring yourself you scum Over-react much, in your world bile pouring is suggesting someone's finishing hasn't been that good in the last two games and maybe a change of boots brings a change of luck, you've called him a show pony and have been criticising him since he joined up until this year when you've suddenly decided he's a good player. We won't even mention your disparaging comments on of the finest centre halves to have represent this club.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 13, 2017 21:13:33 GMT
Some of you could fall out over an ice cube. I always preferred Public Enemy to NWA quite appropriately judging by some of the reactions I got (so everyone knows this is a joke)
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 13, 2017 21:33:34 GMT
I've praised arnie much more than I criticized him Always said he's one of the truly talented players in the team Certainly never poured 'bile' though it seems that you're quite adept at bile-pouring yourself you scum Over-react much, in your world bile pouring is suggesting someone's finishing hasn't been that good in the last two games and maybe a change of boots brings a change of luck, you've called him a show pony and have been criticising him since he joined up until this year when you've suddenly decided he's a good player. We won't even mention your disparaging comments on of the finest centre halves to have represent this club. What disparaging comments ? Just coz I said that for me ryan isn't and never was good enough for England ? That's my opinion and it's not an opinion which isn't shared by others Ryan is strong defensively, technically average at best, rather poor in the ball and for a defender of his height and strength one would expect him to score more goals from set pieces All in all he's good enough for us but not for a top 6 side and the fact that no top 6 side ever knocked on our door for him goes quite a long way to prove my point Now if that for you is tantamount to 'disparaging' our captain so be it; in my book I'm just expressing an honest and objective opinion
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 14, 2017 9:34:45 GMT
Over-react much, in your world bile pouring is suggesting someone's finishing hasn't been that good in the last two games and maybe a change of boots brings a change of luck, you've called him a show pony and have been criticising him since he joined up until this year when you've suddenly decided he's a good player. We won't even mention your disparaging comments on of the finest centre halves to have represent this club. What disparaging comments ? Just coz I said that for me ryan isn't and never was good enough for England ? That's my opinion and it's not an opinion which isn't shared by others Ryan is strong defensively, technically average at best, rather poor in the ball and for a defender of his height and strength one would expect him to score more goals from set pieces All in all he's good enough for us but not for a top 6 side and the fact that no top 6 side ever knocked on our door for him goes quite a long way to prove my point Now if that for you is tantamount to 'disparaging' our captain so be it; in my book I'm just expressing an honest and objective opinion Firstly he is and was good enough for England but that's not what you said is it, “Ryan good enough for a top 6 side is that another joke” is your actual take, a man who gets so offended over someone else making a joke about Arnie's finishing in the last two games despite having openly admitted to criticising him until this season when you've decided he's not a showpony after all.
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Post by mrcoke on Feb 14, 2017 9:46:18 GMT
What a shame that a thread that started out about the nice side of footballers and the fact that they can care about their fellow human-beings, has turned into an ugly spat between two fellow Stoke supporters.
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 14, 2017 12:54:37 GMT
What disparaging comments ? Just coz I said that for me ryan isn't and never was good enough for England ? That's my opinion and it's not an opinion which isn't shared by others Ryan is strong defensively, technically average at best, rather poor in the ball and for a defender of his height and strength one would expect him to score more goals from set pieces All in all he's good enough for us but not for a top 6 side and the fact that no top 6 side ever knocked on our door for him goes quite a long way to prove my point Now if that for you is tantamount to 'disparaging' our captain so be it; in my book I'm just expressing an honest and objective opinion Firstly he is and was good enough for England but that's not what you said is it, “Ryan good enough for a top 6 side is that another joke” is your actual take, a man who gets so offended over someone else making a joke about Arnie's finishing in the last two games despite having openly admitted to criticising him until this season when you've decided he's not a showpony after all. I strongly believe that ryan is not good enough for a top 6 club and the fact that no top 6 club has ever tried to get him goes to prove that my assessment is correct Otherwise it would mean that all the managers which these top 6 clubs have had over the past years have been complete idiots for having overlooked him
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 14, 2017 13:15:00 GMT
Firstly he is and was good enough for England but that's not what you said is it, “Ryan good enough for a top 6 side is that another joke” is your actual take, a man who gets so offended over someone else making a joke about Arnie's finishing in the last two games despite having openly admitted to criticising him until this season when you've decided he's not a showpony after all. I strongly believe that ryan is not good enough for a top 6 club and the fact that no top 6 club has ever tried to get him goes to prove that my assessment is correct Otherwise it would mean that all the managers which these top 6 clubs have had over the past years have been complete idiots for having overlooked him You're entitled to your opinion my point is you asked if it was a joke that Shawcross could play for a top 6 side which to me is far more disrespectful than anything you think I said. People more in the know than me have said the club have rebuffed interest in Shawcross in the past from Liverpool particularly, Ferguson has said he made a mistake letting Ryan leave. The fact Ryan has always been well protected and under contract means the top 6 would have had to pay big money for him, one thing is certain if Ryan had ever been available on a free they'd have been more takers than for there was for Arnie this summer, personally i'm more than happy both are going to be with us for a long time as some people won't realise what they've had till they're gone.
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Post by malteser68 on Feb 14, 2017 20:02:12 GMT
I strongly believe that ryan is not good enough for a top 6 club and the fact that no top 6 club has ever tried to get him goes to prove that my assessment is correct Otherwise it would mean that all the managers which these top 6 clubs have had over the past years have been complete idiots for having overlooked him You're entitled to your opinion my point is you asked if it was a joke that Shawcross could play for a top 6 side which to me is far more disrespectful than anything you think I said. People more in the know than me have said the club have rebuffed interest in Shawcross in the past from Liverpool particularly, Ferguson has said he made a mistake letting Ryan leave. The fact Ryan has always been well protected and under contract means the top 6 would have had to pay big money for him, one thing is certain if Ryan had ever been available on a free they'd have been more takers than for there was for Arnie this summer, personally i'm more than happy both are going to be with us for a long time as some people won't realise what they've had till they're gone. Oooooohhhh so man utd made a mistake to let ryan leave They made the same mistake with a certain Paul pogba and shelled 100 million to ratify the said mistake How much have they ever offered Stoke tonratify the oh-my-God-we-let-ryan-go mistake ??!!!
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