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Post by mermaidsal on Dec 14, 2016 22:53:15 GMT
That could have gone so, so wrong tonight but Sparky and the lads made sure it didn't. What a great proud backs to the wall Stokie display of character, and we played better stuff than the BBC reckon. If that starting XI had been allowed to see out the game it was well capable of winning it.
Context is everything for a manager, so on the night it's
9* from me
add * if you were there please
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 14, 2016 23:02:30 GMT
7* not much else to say.
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Post by samba :) on Dec 14, 2016 23:25:41 GMT
*8
It was a difficult one for sparks today because he had to bring the right players on who were going to do the work required. And he did that splendidly.
However without johnathan we would of been very lucky to hold on tonight
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Post by auntiegeorge on Dec 14, 2016 23:25:44 GMT
9*
Agreed, the character showed tonight both by Sparky and the team was exceptional. There was nothing more (that I can think of) that could have been done under the circumstances. Defending was superb as was Grant.
Ah, the trials and tribulations of being Marco Arnautovic!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 23:31:31 GMT
10. I'm struggling how I could take marks from him. He can't do anything about the red card but his management after that was spot on. He kept his composure and Organised the side well and imo got the subs spot on.
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Post by TexasPotter on Dec 14, 2016 23:37:52 GMT
8 for me. Felt kinda sluggish and not setup right for the first half. Seems slow, no movement and not creative enough. Credit to the players and the eventual changes Hughes made to turn it into a draw though. Not the best possible but good turnaround with such circumstances.
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Dec 14, 2016 23:42:53 GMT
2* Starting line up looked like an edition of Dads Army-we were set up to try not to lose at home to a struggling team. The first time I've felt Hughes has sent out a negative team-what's gone wrong? We have played better football recently, so why rip it up and start again? Surely when we were down to ten men we needed Imbula to keep hold of th
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Dec 14, 2016 23:45:03 GMT
When we were down to ten men surely we needed Imbula to keep the ball and carry it forward, instead of just booting the ball back to the opposition!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 14, 2016 23:46:02 GMT
2* Starting line up looked like an edition of Dads Army-we were set up to try not to lose at home to a struggling team. The first time I've felt Hughes has sent out a negative team-what's gone wrong? We have played better football recently, so why rip it up and start again? Surely when we were down to ten men we needed Imbula to keep hold of th 2 ffs either you're a troll or have a white stick!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 14, 2016 23:48:10 GMT
8 Thought the intitial selection needed more legs in midfield with Imbula rather than Arni, but after being reduced to 10 men organised us well however we were at times almost playing like we were down to 8 or 9 players with the lack of attacking threat we had. that said under the circs a brilliant point and bang on with the subs. If anything Dioufy should have come on earlier.
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Post by chrisparker on Dec 14, 2016 23:49:17 GMT
Should be an 8 because his starting lineup was wrong but I'm going to give him a 9 because in the end those senior players he brought in were exactly the sort of players we needed in the team after being reduced to 10 men, players who'd fight & show leadership in the face of adversity. And take nothing away from Mark because he was rallying them throughout, screaming instructions, making the right substitutions at the right time and getting the crowd going again & again. Must've been proud of his team's warrior like mentality in his 400th game as manager.
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 14, 2016 23:50:27 GMT
9* lost half a point for not taking off adam at half time for diouf and the other half for not having sobhi on the bench.
I thought adam was awful, did he find a stoke shirt at all tonight?
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Post by Theninjabadger on Dec 14, 2016 23:51:28 GMT
2* Starting line up looked like an edition of Dads Army-we were set up to try not to lose at home to a struggling team. The first time I've felt Hughes has sent out a negative team-what's gone wrong? We have played better football recently, so why rip it up and start again? Surely when we were down to ten men we needed Imbula to keep hold of th Words really do fail me...
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Post by reddipotter on Dec 14, 2016 23:52:36 GMT
We started poorly, perhaps in part due to changing to the third system in the last three games. However, after the sending off, we produced the sort of committed, hard-working, defensively organised performance that I thought we had forgotten how to do. For once, I thought Hughes' substitutions were spot on. 8*
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Post by chrisparker on Dec 14, 2016 23:53:50 GMT
9* lost half a point for not taking off adam at half time for diouf and the other half for not having sobhi on the bench. I thought adam was awful, did he find a stoke shirt at all tonight? You're kidding right. Adam was playing in a position that's not familiar to him but he kept Bouffal, Southampton's best player, relatively quiet for pretty much the whole time. No one was particularly good going forward today. Unfair to single out Adam. Imo he was one of the best performers today. Deservedly got an ovation when he was subbed.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Dec 14, 2016 23:53:51 GMT
2* Starting line up looked like an edition of Dads Army-we were set up to try not to lose at home to a struggling team. The first time I've felt Hughes has sent out a negative team-what's gone wrong? We have played better football recently, so why rip it up and start again? Surely when we were down to ten men we needed Imbula to keep hold of th Ffs
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Post by kevkj on Dec 14, 2016 23:54:39 GMT
2 Pick a side to win at home with Walters up front and Adam and Whelan together suggest hes deluded ,throw in Pieters and its half a team of sloths. Vis Unita Fortior"
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Post by Onneravineet on Dec 14, 2016 23:58:25 GMT
Game of two halves for me in terms of rating Les tonate. Well not exactly halves, up to the sending off and after.
UPTO Not impressed with how we set up at all. Up until Arnie's sending off we were second best and looked impotent. Bad selection. 5/10
AFTER After the sending off the team he had picked paid dividends. Battlers in Whelan and Walters, already being on the pitch, saved him two subs! Loved how he got behind the lads and showed emotion tonight whilst trying to buoy the crowd! I am docking him half a mark for not subbing the passenger that was Shaq in the first half. 9.5/10
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 14, 2016 23:59:29 GMT
9* lost half a point for not taking off adam at half time for diouf and the other half for not having sobhi on the bench. I thought adam was awful, did he find a stoke shirt at all tonight? You're kidding right. Adam was playing in a position that's not familiar to him but he kept Bouffal, Southampton's best player, relatively quiet for pretty much the whole time. No one was particularly good going forward today. Unfair to single out Adam. Imo he was one of the best performers today. Deservedly got an ovation when he was subbed. Saw it abit differently, he did slot defensively however his passing just invited more and more pressure on as he couldn't find a stoke shirt. But I agree no one was great going forward but an excellent point.
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Post by brinsleymaclagan on Dec 15, 2016 0:03:27 GMT
I just hope he picks a team to win on Saturday, instead of just hanging on for a draw.
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Post by eastyorksexile on Dec 15, 2016 0:19:40 GMT
When we were down to ten men surely we needed Imbula to keep the ball and carry it forward, instead of just booting the ball back to the opposition! fully agree bud, I was very surprised Imbula didn't start tonight, I thought he had played well in the recent games he has started, but that being said we ground out a great point tonight, although it was not the best game I have seen this season.....
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Dec 15, 2016 0:51:43 GMT
4 , We were at home and they were all over us before the sending off , we defended well credit to him for that but we were playing a mid table premiership team not Barcelona , once again his team was not as fit as the opposition and totally Lacking in pace . That is simply not good enough sorry
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Post by mattador78 on Dec 15, 2016 5:25:40 GMT
8* yes we rode our luck but the performance with ten men was solid and organised and in all fairness i was only worried about then scoring twice really. 1 the cracking save from grant and 2 when rodriguez somehow missed the ball
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Post by Gunslinger on Dec 15, 2016 6:54:20 GMT
4 , We were at home and they were all over us before the sending off , we defended well credit to him for that but we were playing a mid table premiership team not Barcelona , once again his team was not as fit as the opposition and totally Lacking in pace . That is simply not good enough sorry Very much as I see it as well. I also found it strange that Walters was given the nod instead of Diouf and that Ramadan wasn't on the bench. Edit: Oh, and a 4 from me as well
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 7:23:01 GMT
5 if it wasn't for a fantastic defensive display, it would be 2. Never got going from the off, and passing was shocking.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2016 7:34:42 GMT
9* good move replacing shaq ....full of passion willing the crowd on too
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Post by reddipotter on Dec 15, 2016 7:39:05 GMT
4 , We were at home and they were all over us before the sending off , we defended well credit to him for that but we were playing a mid table premiership team not Barcelona , once again his team was not as fit as the opposition and totally Lacking in pace . That is simply not good enough sorry Lacking in pace I'll grant you, but I don't see how you can criticise Stoke's fitness when ten men ran and worked like that for well over an hour.
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Post by Kjones9 on Dec 15, 2016 9:20:36 GMT
I'd give him about 5.
Should've hooked off Shaqiri and Adam long before he did.
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Post by kurt on Dec 15, 2016 10:12:10 GMT
2* the team selection was rubbish - till the red card, we have played woeful
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Post by anarchicalan on Dec 15, 2016 10:25:29 GMT
7 - given the red card, he didn't have a great deal of choice about the rest of the 1st half, but Shaqiri is not a backs to the wall player, so I would have sent Crouch on and put Walters wide at half time. Adam had a great game, but was clearly knackered with 20 minutes to go and should have come off then.
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