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Post by manmarking on Jul 14, 2017 19:08:15 GMT
Ahh, it's another one of those threads where the Tory mob slag off everything Labour do, whilst defending Tories doing the same thing. And the Labour mob slag off everything the Tories do, whilst defending Labour doing the same thing. As if we haven't had (and still have) enough threads like this already. The sooner you bunch of idiots realise that you are the problem, the better this country will become. I quite like Moggy, but I agree with you on the hypocrisy shown on here. I'm getting more right wing as I age, but I can see glaring faults with the Tories. I have no problem calling them out for the many fuck ups they have delivered lately, but I have to say Labour supporters are ridiculously blinkered, they see nothing wrong in anything Labour do, ever! They can't credit the Tories for anything, not even reducing tax for the lowest paid. I've personally benefited from this and received abuse on here for stating it. Yet students who voted out of self interest are lauded! Back to Mogg, though. I like him because he's measured and honest (for a politician!). I agree with him on the EU, and I like his unwavering stance on it. Just because he is a posh bloke doesn't detract from that. Tony Benn was quite posh, too, and he was a Labour hero. Reducing taxes on low income people was a Lib Dem policy, mate
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Post by trickydicky73 on Jul 14, 2017 19:14:46 GMT
I quite like Moggy, but I agree with you on the hypocrisy shown on here. I'm getting more right wing as I age, but I can see glaring faults with the Tories. I have no problem calling them out for the many fuck ups they have delivered lately, but I have to say Labour supporters are ridiculously blinkered, they see nothing wrong in anything Labour do, ever! They can't credit the Tories for anything, not even reducing tax for the lowest paid. I've personally benefited from this and received abuse on here for stating it. Yet students who voted out of self interest are lauded! Back to Mogg, though. I like him because he's measured and honest (for a politician!). I agree with him on the EU, and I like his unwavering stance on it. Just because he is a posh bloke doesn't detract from that. Tony Benn was quite posh, too, and he was a Labour hero. Reducing taxes on low income people was a Lib Dem policy, mate Carried on and improved by the Tories, and Labour's reluctance to bring it in stopped the Lib Dems going into coalition with them(or at least it was one reason they gave at the time).
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Post by numpty40 on Jul 14, 2017 21:22:59 GMT
He always answers the questions,
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Post by manmarking on Jul 14, 2017 22:45:18 GMT
Reducing taxes on low income people was a Lib Dem policy, mate Carried on and improved by the Tories, and Labour's reluctance to bring it in stopped the Lib Dems going into coalition with them(or at least it was one reason they gave at the time). I think it would be a mistake to assume that the Tories carried it on for any other reason than that it was popular and could make people think they give a fuck
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 15, 2017 8:58:35 GMT
He always answers the questions, What, That was like an interview on the One show, hardly coming under the attack of John Humphries. To dissemble that line about going into competition with the French over the City, read: We will give finance a free reign to asset strip our nation, which is his business. Anyway, the spindley piece of vermin reminds me of the gay vicar that caught a ride on the coat tails of Jimmy Summerville in the Communards. See what you think:-
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Post by basingstokie on Jul 15, 2017 9:53:09 GMT
Carried on and improved by the Tories, and Labour's reluctance to bring it in stopped the Lib Dems going into coalition with them(or at least it was one reason they gave at the time). I think it would be a mistake to assume that the Tories carried it on for any other reason than that it was popular and could make people think they give a fuck In my opinion there are very few politicians who genuinely care, they just say whatever they think will get most votes and get them into power. Does JC really think it's right students don't pay tuition or did he just see a huge untapped voting pool and work out what would appeal to them. Same with Tories and pension increases, pensioners much more likely to vote than average person so come up with some policies that appeal to them. Same as in business, if Henry Ford originally cared about designing an affordable car that ethos has now been lost in designing the most profitable car.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 15, 2017 10:53:39 GMT
I think it would be a mistake to assume that the Tories carried it on for any other reason than that it was popular and could make people think they give a fuck In my opinion there are very few politicians who genuinely care, they just say whatever they think will get most votes and get them into power. Does JC really think it's right students don't pay tuition or did he just see a huge untapped voting pool and work out what would appeal to them. Same with Tories and pension increases, pensioners much more likely to vote than average person so come up with some policies that appeal to them. Same as in business, if Henry Ford originally cared about designing an affordable car that ethos has now been lost in designing the most profitable car. I don't think you can equate governing a country to running a profitable business. The Ford model was ALWAYS about profit, nothing else. It's a private compamy, that's what it's there for in a capitalist society. I think most politicians genuinely care. Unfortunately they have to play the game of trying to please as many people as they can all the time to get elected or stay in power. The public gets the politics it deserves. If you continue to vote for liars and dissemblers they will keep on lying and dissembling.
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Post by felonious on Jul 15, 2017 13:20:12 GMT
He always answers the questions, What, That was like an interview on the One show, hardly coming under the attack of John Humphries. To dissemble that line about going into competition with the French over the City, read: We will give finance a free reign to asset strip our nation, which is his business. That's the whole point of an interview though Bath. You ask questions and you get answers. There's no need to question aggressively when you're getting straightforward answers.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 15, 2017 14:47:38 GMT
What, That was like an interview on the One show, hardly coming under the attack of John Humphries. To dissemble that line about going into competition with the French over the City, read: We will give finance a free reign to asset strip our nation, which is his business. That's the whole point of an interview though Bath. You ask questions and you get answers. There's no need to question aggressively when you're getting straightforward answers. Do you need me to hold your hand again felonious & walk you through it. He did not give a straightforward answer. He was disingenuous.
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Post by manmarking on Jul 15, 2017 15:25:30 GMT
I think it would be a mistake to assume that the Tories carried it on for any other reason than that it was popular and could make people think they give a fuck In my opinion there are very few politicians who genuinely care, they just say whatever they think will get most votes and get them into power. Does JC really think it's right students don't pay tuition or did he just see a huge untapped voting pool and work out what would appeal to them. Same with Tories and pension increases, pensioners much more likely to vote than average person so come up with some policies that appeal to them. Same as in business, if Henry Ford originally cared about designing an affordable car that ethos has now been lost in designing the most profitable car. Corbyn has been saying tuition fees are wrong ever since Labour first introduced them and he was a backbencher with no hope of power. So yes, I believe he does genuinely think that. Same with most of his policies. He's been saying the same stuff for decades - it's just finally being listened to/come into fashion. Same with Farage and his anti-EU stance, which was ignored/less popular for ages. Of course, Corbyn let his credentials down somewhat with his stance on the referendum but he couldn't really have played that any differently.
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Post by felonious on Jul 15, 2017 15:42:51 GMT
That's the whole point of an interview though Bath. You ask questions and you get answers. There's no need to question aggressively when you're getting straightforward answers. Do you need me to hold your hand again felonious & walk you through it. He did not give a straightforward answer. He was disingenuous. Disingenuous. Is that the difference between giving a straight answer and the one you want to hear.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 15, 2017 16:25:46 GMT
Do you need me to hold your hand again felonious & walk you through it. He did not give a straightforward answer. He was disingenuous. Disingenuous. Is that the difference between giving a straight answer and the one you want to hear. So your happy to go into an unrestrained bidding war & race to the bottom with everyone else. Do you really price yourself that little...
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Post by felonious on Jul 15, 2017 17:40:48 GMT
Disingenuous. Is that the difference between giving a straight answer and the one you want to hear. So your happy to go into an unrestrained bidding war & race to the bottom with everyone else. Do you really price yourself that little... He gave a straight answer. What part of giving a straight answer do you not understand.
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 15, 2017 17:42:30 GMT
So your happy to go into an unrestrained bidding war & race to the bottom with everyone else. Do you really price yourself that little... He gave a straight answer. What part of giving a straight answer do you not understand. Tedious
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Post by felonious on Jul 15, 2017 17:50:13 GMT
He gave a straight answer. What part of giving a straight answer do you not understand. Tedious Thank you Bath that's a fine example of a straight answer
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Post by rat on Jul 16, 2017 4:41:52 GMT
Thank you Bath that's a fine example of a straight answer Why do you like Rees-Mogg ?
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 16, 2017 8:42:30 GMT
Thank you Bath that's a fine example of a straight answer Why do you like Rees-Mogg ? Shit the bed again mate?
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Post by rat on Jul 16, 2017 8:52:03 GMT
Why do you like Rees-Mogg ? Shit the bed again mate? I wasn't aware that was the case Todge And a good morning to you too
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 16, 2017 9:41:00 GMT
I wasn't aware that was the case Todge And a good morning to you too Just that you were scuttling around after me other day on different threads. About 5 in the morning wasn't it? Working nights?
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Post by Frogger Theft Auto on Jul 16, 2017 9:48:51 GMT
So your happy to go into an unrestrained bidding war & race to the bottom with everyone else. Do you really price yourself that little... He gave a straight answer. What part of giving a straight answer do you not understand. "What do you think about Boris telling the EU to go whistle (to fuck off)?" "Marvelous statement, whistle a jolly tune while you work, I say." I don't understand the straight part of this answer. Disingenuous. And a proper interviewer would have pulled him up on it a few times.
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Post by rat on Jul 16, 2017 13:19:23 GMT
I wasn't aware that was the case Todge And a good morning to you too Just that you were scuttling around after me other day on different threads. About 5 in the morning wasn't it? Working nights? Must have been some late night bullshit of yours that needed cleaning up . And as i've already told you , i'm an eccentric millionaire who has no need to work
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 16, 2017 13:44:59 GMT
Just that you were scuttling around after me other day on different threads. About 5 in the morning wasn't it? Working nights? Must have been some late night bullshit of yours that needed cleaning up . And as i've already told you , i'm an eccentric millionaire who has no need to work Nice work if you can get, Toying with people's emotions 😁
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Post by rogerjonesisgod on Jul 16, 2017 14:09:32 GMT
Just that you were scuttling around after me other day on different threads. About 5 in the morning wasn't it? Working nights? Must have been some late night bullshit of yours that needed cleaning up . And as i've already told you , i'm an eccentric millionaire fruit loop who has no need to work So your "boss" asking you to buy a CAD (Revit) Workstation and you "earning" 60K a year since 2002 are just your eccentricities ??
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Post by rat on Jul 16, 2017 14:43:17 GMT
Must have been some late night bullshit of yours that needed cleaning up . And as i've already told you , i'm an eccentric millionaire fruit loop who has no need to work So your "boss" asking you to buy a CAD (Revit) Workstation and you "earning" 60K a year since 2002 are just your eccentricities ?? Todger , I always tell the truth , even when I lie
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Post by agingerstokie on Jul 22, 2017 18:21:21 GMT
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Post by felonious on Jul 22, 2017 18:28:09 GMT
The dream team
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 19:43:21 GMT
The dream team Watched it yesterday. Warmed the cockles of my heart... shame Maggie wast there too Have you watched mogg interview with Ali G ?
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 22, 2017 19:59:36 GMT
The dream team The dream team!?! It was Moggy, the student of an archaic language, the MP for Hicksville UK, talking to a hypocrite of the EU. Moggy £@#&ed 0££ to leave Mark from Essex to talk, who was about as erudite as Beckham. Great RadioXx
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 20:36:34 GMT
The dream team The dream team!?! It was Moggy, the student of an archaic language, the MP for Hicksville UK, talking to a hypocrite of the EU. Moggy £@#&ed 0££ to leave Mark from Essex to talk, who was about as erudite as Beckham. Great RadioXx MP for hicksville coming from somebody from Barf 😂 classic
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Post by bathstoke on Jul 22, 2017 21:19:17 GMT
The dream team!?! It was Moggy, the student of an archaic language, the MP for Hicksville UK, talking to a hypocrite of the EU. Moggy £@#&ed 0££ to leave Mark from Essex to talk, who was about as erudite as Beckham. Great RadioXx MP for hicksville coming from somebody from Barf 😂 classic Flubber, You Bubber. Do you really think I'm from down here. People move about & not just in Europe
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